If a total loss is 7 units (betting 1, 2, 4 units) and you just suck up any loss and never increase your bet, then your bankroll needs to be 20 times a loss....minimum.

Why 20 you may ask?

It's to do with the "fear/panic factor" when we take a loss.

Say you have a bankroll of £100 (I'm using GPB £'s as I'm from the UK) say you have that 100 bankroll and you were playing £5 units, due to the fact you didn't really know much about money management techniques. Your 3 bets would be £5, £10, £20 - That's a loss of £35 which against a £100 bankroll is over a third. If you lose a third of your bankroll then the fear can creep into your mindset and make you try to recoup some of it back fast...You've just lost a third of your bankroll, that's a scary thought and one that catches MANY people out and makes them chase a quick recovery. We all know that this can be fatal to your remaining bankroll. NEVER CHASE - PATIENCE WINS....NOT RASH "FAST RECOVERY" BETS

BUT...and here is where the "20 times" bankroll mindset comes in...When you take a loss of £35 but your bankroll is in excess of £700, well, that's a SERIOUSLY less fearful loss when you look at your bankroll 1/20th which is mentally a LOT easier to take and even walk away with a "Oooh nice one random, you got me there but I@ll get you the next time"...perhaps with a wry smile from you too

This is just my money management suggestion for pattern breaker -

ASSUMING £1 is 1unit

Ideally you need a BR to be at as a MINIMUM-
£140 to bet £1 units
£280 ...........£2 units
£420 ...........£3 units
£560............£4 units
£700............£5 units

I'd suggest that, ON AVERAGE, you stick with £5 units as you only need to play 2-4 games a day to take out a nice amount of money at the end of each month for life's nicer things (holiday, presents for kids etc) You can of course ignore this and go ahead and bet your comfort unit size.

£840 ...........£6 units
£980............£7 units
£1120..........£8 units
£1260..........£9 units
£1400..........£10 units

I'd also suggest that you reach the next bankroll mark before betting the corresponding unit size. By that I mean this

Wait until your bankroll is £280 BEFORE MOVING UP TO £2 UNITS...i.e. stay at £1 units until your BR is £280 ONLY THEN move up to using £2 units and so on....wait until your BR is at £420 BEFORE MOVING FROM £2 UP TO £3 UNITS

If you have a substantial BR like £3,500

You can then look at really serious money making by using units worth £25 betting sequence would be something like £25, £50, £100.

With a bankroll that size you can perhaps afford to cover the green Zero on the last bet with perhaps a £5 on green zero as insurance...each to their own on that green zero bet though. I cover green on my last bet as I@ve hit it so many times on a final bet.

Remember to keep your BR in your own savings account though and not all in a casino account Let the interest grow it as well as your game play winnings 

If you have a bankroll of 100 units and you lose 7 (1 total loss for pattern Breaker) that's not much really of a % loss of your overall bankroll.

Play 6 games in one day and from experience you will get 3 or 4 days of no losses which will let you build your bankroll up when you DO lose...ULTRA MARATHON...not a sprint

---a game is HIGH/LOW
---a game is ODD/EVEN
---a game is RED/BLACK

So if you're tracking all 3 then you only play twice day! If you only play 2 methods ( I personally only play ODD/EVEN and HIGH.LOW as I found RED/BLACK loses more often due to the board layout) then you'll log in 3 times a day for 2 games each time...of course you can play less...the call is yours - JUST REMEMBER TO SET YOURSELF A GOAL AND DON'T TRY TO PLAY TOO MUCH OR BE GREEDY - Ultra marathon remember!!

If you say to yourself...today I'm going in to play 6 games only ...then that EXACTLY what you do. Regardless of if you get six wins in those 6 games or four wins and two loss etc...

Never play more than six games in one day. More often than not you will win all six games and you can go 2 or 3 days or more when you win all six games.

The more you play consistently at one table the more likely that random will find a way to beat you. I know most people don't believe in playing hit and run but I swear by it. I think that there are long periods in a day when things will go your way in numbers spun by the wheel but if you play long hours then you'll be more likely to hit one of the times in the day when numbers will go against you. Just my opinion.

If you play hit and run for six games there is more chance of you playing in the zone when things will go your way. If you play longer then there is more chance that you'll also hit the bad zone when things will go against you...like hitting a triple spun number etc..

Take the LONG outlook view for playing a method...it's a REAL hard grind at the start to get your bankroll up high but if you can do it, the rewards are there for sure.

Say you play 5 games a day (I use 5 as an easier example for number adding purposes as opposed to 6) of PATTERN BREAKER for 30 days...that's 150 games in one month...just as an example ok.

Taking a 10win to 1loss view then you can expect, from that 150 games, something like...

130 wins of 1 unit = 130 units

You'll expect to hit 10-13 losses over that month's worth of 150 games which works out at - 7units x 13losses = 91 units lost - I'LL USE 90 AS AN EVEN FIGURE TO EXPLAIN

130units won - 90 units lost = 40 units profit for the month


40 units @ £1 or €1 doesn't sound much...but if you build on that and do this a number of months so your bankroll lets you play £5 or €5 units....then that 40 units profit each month x £5/€5 = 200 which is a nice earner each month.

...take it one stage further like the poster called Pilot has...where your 1 unit is £50/€50 then multiply that by 40 units profit each month...2,000!!!   That is where you want to be. BUT...and this is the HUGE BUT...it is the patience needed to GET your small bankroll up to a huge level that is the hard part. Playing the system isn't hard, it's the mental ability to stick to a method that seems to be going slowly...only for it to explode after 5-6 months.

Can you do that 5-6 months play to get your BR up? That's the key.

Say you started with £100 bankroll

End of month 1 -
Bankroll is, on average with Pattern Breaker, going to be about £100 plus 40units you win = £140 betting £1 units

End of month 2 -
Bankroll is, on average with Pattern Breaker, going to be about £140 plus 40units you win = £180 betting £1 units

End of month 3 -
Bankroll is, on average with Pattern Breaker, going to be about £180 plus 40units you win = £220 betting £1 units

End of month 4 -
Bankroll is, on average with Pattern Breaker going to be about £220 plus 40units you win = £260 betting £1 units

End of month 5 -
Bankroll is, on average with Pattern Breaker going to be about £260 plus 40units you win = £300 betting £1 units

At this stage...£300 in our BR...we've now gone past the "bankroll needed to move up a unit value" (20 times a total loss) 7 units as a loss x 20 = £140units

I'd also suggest that you reach the next bankroll mark before betting the corresponding unit size. By that I mean this

Wait until your bankroll is £280 BEFORE MOVING UP TO £2 UNITS...i.e. stay at £1 units until your BR is £280 ONLY THEN move up to using £2 units and so on....wait until your BR is at £420 BEFORE MOVING FROM £2 UP TO £3 UNITS


Ideally you need a BR of 140 to bet £1 units
£280 ........................£2 units
£420 ........................£3 units
£560.........................£4 units
£700.........................£5 units


You're at end of month 5 and now with a BR of over 300 it allows you to move the unit value up from £1 up to £2 units


End of month 6 -
Bankroll is, on average with Pattern Breaker, going to be about £300 plus 40 you win(BUT NOW £2 UNITS INSTEAD OF THE £1 unit) = £300 BR plus (40 units won x £2) = £380

End of month 7 -
Bankroll is, on average with Pattern Breaker, going to be about £380 plus 40 you win(BUT NOW £2 UNITS INSTEAD OF THE £1 unit) = £380 BR plus (40 units won x £2) = £460

At this stage you can move up to £3 unit values form the £2 as you've passed the threshold for moving up a unit value while still having 20 times a total loss as your BR

End of month 8 -
Bankroll is, on average with Pattern Breaker, going to be about £460 plus 40 you win(BUT NOW £3 UNITS INSTEAD OF THE £2 unit) = £460 BR plus (40 units won x £3 = 120) = £580 <- new unit value threshold

At this stage you can move up to £4 unit values from the £3 as you've passed the threshold for moving up a unit value while still having 20 times a total loss as your BR

End of month 9 -
Bankroll is, on average with Pattern Breaker, going to be about £580 plus 40 you win(BUT NOW £4 UNITS INSTEAD OF THE £3 unit) = £580  BR plus (40 units won x £4 = 160) = £740

...and so on

***REMEMBER THAT THIS IS AN ULTRA MARATHON - NOT A SPRINT!!!!*** 9 months sounds a LOT and will take a LOT of dedication

You can see not a lot of movement in the unit value for the first 6 months but then it starts to rocket when you have a BR big enough to let you bet higher unit values. It's this 9 month plan that we should all be sticking too  which will let us fleece the casinos for all we can get

You can accelerate your speed if you place £50 each month into your bankroll as a topup - ONLY DO THIS IF YOU ARE WORKING AND CAN AFFORD TO!!! Remember don't bet with money you need to pay bills and eat!!! 

The members are very lucky to have such a thoughtful analysis. 

Well done!

PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS IS PATTERN BREAKER MONEY MANAGEMENT - NOT PATTERN 4 AS I PUT IN THE HEADING

 

Quote from: subby on November 08, 2012, 08:27:41 PM
If a total loss is 7 units (betting 1, 2, 4 units) and you just suck up any loss and never increase your bet, then your bankroll needs to be 20 times a loss....minimum.

Why 20 you may ask?

It's to do with the "fear/panic factor" when we take a loss.

Say you have a bankroll of £100 (I'm using GPB £'s as I'm from the UK) say you have that 100 bankroll and you were playing £5 units, due to the fact you didn't really know much about money management techniques. Your 3 bets would be £5, £10, £20 - That's a loss of £35 which against a £100 bankroll is over a third. If you lose a third of your bankroll then the fear can creep into your mindset and make you try to recoup some of it back fast...You've just lost a third of your bankroll, that's a scary thought and one that catches MANY people out and makes them chase a quick recovery. We all know that this can be fatal to your remaining bankroll. NEVER CHASE - PATIENCE WINS....NOT RASH "FAST RECOVERY" BETS

BUT...and here is where the "20 times" bankroll mindset comes in...When you take a loss of £35 but your bankroll is in excess of £700, well, that's a SERIOUSLY less fearful loss when you look at your bankroll 1/20th which is mentally a LOT easier to take and even walk away with a "Oooh nice one random, you got me there but I@ll get you the next time"...perhaps with a wry smile from you too

This is just my money management suggestion for pattern breaker -

ASSUMING £1 is 1unit

Ideally you need a BR to be at as a MINIMUM-
£140 to bet £1 units
£280 ...........£2 units
£420 ...........£3 units
£560............£4 units
£700............£5 units

I'd suggest that, ON AVERAGE, you stick with £5 units as you only need to play 2-4 games a day to take out a nice amount of money at the end of each month for life's nicer things (holiday, presents for kids etc) You can of course ignore this and go ahead and bet your comfort unit size.

£840 ...........£6 units
£980............£7 units
£1120..........£8 units
£1260..........£9 units
£1400..........£10 units

I'd also suggest that you reach the next bankroll mark before betting the corresponding unit size. By that I mean this

Wait until your bankroll is £280 BEFORE MOVING UP TO £2 UNITS...i.e. stay at £1 units until your BR is £280 ONLY THEN move up to using £2 units and so on....wait until your BR is at £420 BEFORE MOVING FROM £2 UP TO £3 UNITS

If you have a substantial BR like £3,500

You can then look at really serious money making by using units worth £25 betting sequence would be something like £25, £50, £100.

With a bankroll that size you can perhaps afford to cover the green Zero on the last bet with perhaps a £5 on green zero as insurance...each to their own on that green zero bet though. I cover green on my last bet as I@ve hit it so many times on a final bet.

Remember to keep your BR in your own savings account though and not all in a casino account Let the interest grow it as well as your game play winnings 

If you have a bankroll of 100 units and you lose 7 (1 total loss for pattern Breaker) that's not much really of a % loss of your overall bankroll.

Play 6 games in one day and from experience you will get 3 or 4 days of no losses which will let you build your bankroll up when you DO lose...ULTRA MARATHON...not a sprint

---a game is HIGH/LOW
---a game is ODD/EVEN
---a game is RED/BLACK

So if you're tracking all 3 then you only play twice day! If you only play 2 methods ( I personally only play ODD/EVEN and HIGH.LOW as I found RED/BLACK loses more often due to the board layout) then you'll log in 3 times a day for 2 games each time...of course you can play less...the call is yours - JUST REMEMBER TO SET YOURSELF A GOAL AND DON'T TRY TO PLAY TOO MUCH OR BE GREEDY - Ultra marathon remember!!

If you say to yourself...today I'm going in to play 6 games only ...then that EXACTLY what you do. Regardless of if you get six wins in those 6 games or four wins and two loss etc...

Never play more than six games in one day. More often than not you will win all six games and you can go 2 or 3 days or more when you win all six games.

The more you play consistently at one table the more likely that random will find a way to beat you. I know most people don't believe in playing hit and run but I swear by it. I think that there are long periods in a day when things will go your way in numbers spun by the wheel but if you play long hours then you'll be more likely to hit one of the times in the day when numbers will go against you. Just my opinion.

If you play hit and run for six games there is more chance of you playing in the zone when things will go your way. If you play longer then there is more chance that you'll also hit the bad zone when things will go against you...like hitting a triple spun number etc..

Take the LONG outlook view for playing a method...it's a REAL hard grind at the start to get your bankroll up high but if you can do it, the rewards are there for sure.

Say you play 5 games a day (I use 5 as an easier example for number adding purposes as opposed to 6) of PATTERN BREAKER for 30 days...that's 150 games in one month...just as an example ok.

Taking a 10win to 1loss view then you can expect, from that 150 games, something like...

130 wins of 1 unit = 130 units

You'll expect to hit 10-13 losses over that month's worth of 150 games which works out at - 7units x 13losses = 91 units lost - I'LL USE 90 AS AN EVEN FIGURE TO EXPLAIN

130units won - 90 units lost = 40 units profit for the month


40 units @ £1 or €1 doesn't sound much...but if you build on that and do this a number of months so your bankroll lets you play £5 or €5 units....then that 40 units profit each month x £5/€5 = 200 which is a nice earner each month.

...take it one stage further like the poster called Pilot has...where your 1 unit is £50/€50 then multiply that by 40 units profit each month...2,000!!!   That is where you want to be. BUT...and this is the HUGE BUT...it is the patience needed to GET your small bankroll up to a huge level that is the hard part. Playing the system isn't hard, it's the mental ability to stick to a method that seems to be going slowly...only for it to explode after 5-6 months.

Can you do that 5-6 months play to get your BR up? That's the key.

Say you started with £100 bankroll

End of month 1 -
Bankroll is, on average with Pattern Breaker, going to be about £100 plus 40units you win = £140 betting £1 units

End of month 2 -
Bankroll is, on average with Pattern Breaker, going to be about £140 plus 40units you win = £180 betting £1 units

End of month 3 -
Bankroll is, on average with Pattern Breaker, going to be about £180 plus 40units you win = £220 betting £1 units

End of month 4 -
Bankroll is, on average with Pattern Breaker going to be about £220 plus 40units you win = £260 betting £1 units

End of month 5 -
Bankroll is, on average with Pattern Breaker going to be about £260 plus 40units you win = £300 betting £1 units

At this stage...£300 in our BR...we've now gone past the "bankroll needed to move up a unit value" (20 times a total loss) 7 units as a loss x 20 = £140units

I'd also suggest that you reach the next bankroll mark before betting the corresponding unit size. By that I mean this

Wait until your bankroll is £280 BEFORE MOVING UP TO £2 UNITS...i.e. stay at £1 units until your BR is £280 ONLY THEN move up to using £2 units and so on....wait until your BR is at £420 BEFORE MOVING FROM £2 UP TO £3 UNITS


Ideally you need a BR of 140 to bet £1 units
£280 ........................£2 units
£420 ........................£3 units
£560.........................£4 units
£700.........................£5 units


You're at end of month 5 and now with a BR of over 300 it allows you to move the unit value up from £1 up to £2 units


End of month 6 -
Bankroll is, on average with Pattern Breaker, going to be about £300 plus 40 you win(BUT NOW £2 UNITS INSTEAD OF THE £1 unit) = £300 BR plus (40 units won x £2) = £380

End of month 7 -
Bankroll is, on average with Pattern Breaker, going to be about £380 plus 40 you win(BUT NOW £2 UNITS INSTEAD OF THE £1 unit) = £380 BR plus (40 units won x £2) = £460

At this stage you can move up to £3 unit values form the £2 as you've passed the threshold for moving up a unit value while still having 20 times a total loss as your BR

End of month 8 -
Bankroll is, on average with Pattern Breaker, going to be about £460 plus 40 you win(BUT NOW £3 UNITS INSTEAD OF THE £2 unit) = £460 BR plus (40 units won x £3 = 120) = £580 <- new unit value threshold

At this stage you can move up to £4 unit values from the £3 as you've passed the threshold for moving up a unit value while still having 20 times a total loss as your BR

End of month 9 -
Bankroll is, on average with Pattern Breaker, going to be about £580 plus 40 you win(BUT NOW £4 UNITS INSTEAD OF THE £3 unit) = £580  BR plus (40 units won x £4 = 160) = £740

...and so on

***REMEMBER THAT THIS IS AN ULTRA MARATHON - NOT A SPRINT!!!!*** 9 months sounds a LOT and will take a LOT of dedication

You can see not a lot of movement in the unit value for the first 6 months but then it starts to rocket when you have a BR big enough to let you bet higher unit values. It's this 9 month plan that we should all be sticking too  which will let us fleece the casinos for all we can get

You can accelerate your speed if you place £50 each month into your bankroll as a topup - ONLY DO THIS IF YOU ARE WORKING AND CAN AFFORD TO!!! Remember don't bet with money you need to pay bills and eat!!! 

Perfect money management Subby 20 times is the MINIMUM we should have. The fear factor has wiped out many gamblers.

Just a few more thoughts on this from me if I may. I tend to ramble but I hope someone somewhere finds it in some shape or form...interesting enough to read. These are just my own thoughts so when I refer to "we" I mean myself...it's a british thing to do that lol.


Touching again on the mentality of playing Pattern Breaker with an almost "robotic single minded" mindset...

When we play with money management systems in place, we aren't really playing for money, we are playing for units or chips. No matter what the unit value of these chips are, we are only looking to play for a monthly + units level on to our starting bankroll at the beginning of the month.

When you look at units in a monetary sense...i.e "I'm betting £2 chips" then you become to attached too the "money factor" and as Geko once said "greed is good" well I disagree...."Greed is bad!" (for your bankroll)

We are all looking for that way to be able to lift out £500 a month for lifes nicer things yes? Well we need a shift in mentality to achieve that.

WHEN YOU HAVE MONEY IN YOUR ACCOUNT : DECIDE WHAT VALUE YOU WILL BE BETTING AND CONVERT YOUR BANKROLL INTO UNITS AND FORGET ITS MONEY VALUE.

If you have a £100 deposit in your bankroll but you are playing £2 units then mentally convert your bankroll into a unit bankroll....You have a starting bankroll of 50 units***

GET AWAY FROM THAT MONEY VALUE BANKROLL WAY OF THINKING AS MONEY THINKING MAKES PEOPLE GREEDY

When constantly looking at the money aspect of the units then we can get distracted from the primary goal....which is to have more units in the bank than we did at the start of the month! If we can disassociate ourselves from the money and only think about having a positive unit increase by day 30 (roughly 1 month in days) then we are on to a winner.

Why are we on to a winner you ask? Well for some reason unknown, the PB method gives you long streaks the less you play it. The longer the win streak before we hit a loss then the more the units you have got for your BR before another win streak kicks in. If you play more games you'll get more losses and your win:loss ratio will fall lower and lower. Ideally we are aiming to have a 10:1 ratio which gives us a +3 unit "achievement"

If you had, at the end of the month (day 30), even a unit increase on your starting bankroll (50 units***) of just 20 units...i.e. you end up with after day 30, somewhere in the region of 70 units - Then you can, if you want, convert it back to money (70 units when betting £2 as shown above) = £140 and look to take the money out of your account. Even when taking a loss (7 units) if you are thinking about units lost and not trying to think of the money value of those units, then thinking "I've lost 7 units" is a lot easier to deal with than "I've lost £14"

If you KNOW that from experience, you streak often up to 12 or 13 or more before a loss then you know that that 7 unit loss is merely a blip in the bigger monthly aim picture.



If you can mentally shift your thinking into grind units...grind units...."even if it is only 20 units a month I will grind it out" for 7-10 months then you are well on your way to shifting through the gears into the "real money" zone.

Having that "minimum of, 20 times a loss, as your total BR" along with seeing the bigger long term picture will let you start to progress up through the unit values so that around month 10 of grinding out 20 units a month you can have the BR in place to be betting £5 units....BUT still only grinding out 20 units a month in your head.

If you look after the units each month then the unit values will look after your bankroll.

Imagine you have seen the bigger picture (top graph in that drawing) and you know you have the iron will to grind out units as opposed to "winning money" then imagine 18 months down the line when you are STILL grinding out 20 units a month...but those unit values are £20 units, that's where you should be aiming for...£400 a month on average isn't to be sniffed at in todays world.

For those who have serious balls but that same simple "Grind out 20 units a month only" mindset - They can take this to £100 unit values but still playing for only those 20 units every month that everyone can play for...£2,000 

...you now see why I'm excited about this method 

It is the "grind out 20 units a month" ....month in....month out....at the beginning of your journey, when it doesn't seem that you are winning much in money terms....think of that as "20 units done and that month is merely a small part of the BIG PICTURE graph" and you'll refocus yourself and kick on into month 2... for another 20 units overall in that month etc...

Do you have the mindset to do it? Do you have the eye on the BIG picture and not so much the mundane small picture? Do you have the mindset to refer to units as opposed to actual money? DO you have the desire to be somewhere in 18 months that could change the way you live your life (extra £400 or more a month? while having a huge UNIT bankroll to mentally easily absorb those 7 unit losses you will get)

...If you have answered yes to the above then you are well on your way and I'll not be too far behind you 

Given the "Units at all cost" mentality that I'm aiming for as opposed to putting a "monetary value on things" I want to aim for some sort of set similar to this...It is going on a VERY conservative 20 units per month when in fact I'll be a bit miffed if we don't get 25 or even 30+ units a month but I'll use 20 units as a minimum.

Let me remind you reading this that in SPERAMUS ONLY we are going to have a minimum of 10 times a total loss( PB a total loss is 1, 2, 4 units = 7 x 10 loss = 70) as a BR before moving to that unit bet increase so...

If the ten times a loss is needed... 70 units...then our unit bet is our bankroll divided by the 70 (BR / 70units = value of 1 unit) To start with we had £150 BR so £150 / 70 = £2+ so we started on £2 units

To move up a unit value you must reach thresholds for the BR of...

Unit value .....you need a BR of......BR
1                                                                    70
2                                                                    140
3                                                                    210
4                                                                    280
5                                                                    350
6                                                                    420
7                                                                    490
8                                                                    560
9                                                                    630
10                                                                  700
11                                                 770
12                                                 840
13                                                 910
14                                                 980


Month 1 – 20 units grinded out @ £2 per unit = £40 all the while only betting 1, 2, 4 units
£40 winnings + our starting BR of £150 will give us about £190 as a minimum by end of month 1

-What did we do in month 1? Bet 1, 2, 4, units...nothing more...nothing less....

Month 2 - 20 units grinded out @ £2 per unit = £40 all the while only betting 1, 2, 4 units
£40 winnings + our BR of £190 will give us about £230 as a minimum by end of month 2

-What did we do in month 2? Bet 1, 2, 4, units...nothing more...nothing less....

BUT....we've now passed the threshold for moving up the units from £2 up to £3..i.e. our BR is above £210 as shown above to safely bet £3 as a unit...but still betting 1, 2, 4 units...nothing more, nothing less



***Please note that we will be passing the threshold for a unit value increase during the month so things will actually go faster than what I'm showing. I'm just trying to explain it in easily understood terms for those wanting to learn ***



Month 3 - 20 units grinded out @ £3 per unit = £60 all the while only betting 1, 2, 4 units
£60 winnings + our BR of £210 will give us about £270 as a minimum by end of month 3

-What did we do in month 3? Bet 1, 2, 4, units...nothing more...nothing less....

We haven't, in this example, passed the threshold for £4 units but we're not far off (threshold is £280) so for simple sake we'll stick to £3 units for another month



Month 4 - 20 units grinded out @ £3 per unit = £60 all the while only betting 1, 2, 4 units
£60 winnings + our BR of £270 will give us about £330 as a minimum by end of month 4
-What did we do in month 4? Bet 1, 2, 4, units...nothing more...nothing less....

BUT....we've now passed the threshold for moving up the units from £3 up to £4..i.e. our BR is above £280 as shown above, to safely bet £4 as a unit...but still betting 1, 2, 4 units...nothing more, nothing less



Month 5 - 20 units grinded out @ £4 per unit = £80 all the while only betting 1, 2, 4 units
£80 winnings + our BR of £330 will give us about £410 as a minimum by end of month 5
-What did we do in month 5? Bet 1, 2, 4, units...nothing more...nothing less....

BUT....we've now passed the threshold for moving up the units from £4 up to £5..i.e. our BR is above £350 as shown above, to safely bet £5 as a unit...but still betting 1, 2, 4 units...nothing more, nothing less



Month 6 - 20 units grinded out @ £5 per unit = £100 all the while only betting 1, 2, 4 units
£100 winnings + our BR of £410 will give us about £510 as a minimum by end of month 6
-What did we do in month 6? Bet 1, 2, 4, units...nothing more...nothing less....

***THIS NEXT BIT IS SIGNIFICANT AS YOU CAN SEE NOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU'VE DONE THE HARD GRIND THE FIRST FEW MONTHS***

We've now passed the threshold for moving up the units BUT now we've broken the back of this grind Our bankroll at the end of month 6 is going to be about £510 as a minimum...from the above bankroll ratio chart we can see that £510 will let us bet £7 units <- we jumped past £6 units and went straight for £7

We increase therefore the unit value from £5 up to £7..i.e. our BR is above £490 as shown above, to safely bet £7 as a unit...but still betting 1, 2, 4 units...nothing more, nothing less



Month 7 we hit with a cheer given the unit values we can use now but remember we are STILL ONLY BETTING 1, 2, 4 UNITS!!  NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS
Month 7 - 20 units grinded out @ £7 per unit = £140 all the while only betting 1, 2, 4 units
£140 winnings + our BR of £510 will give us about £650 as a minimum by end of month 7
-What did we do in month 7? Bet 1, 2, 4, units...nothing more...nothing less....

***THIS NEXT BIT IS SIGNIFICANT AS YOU CAN SEE NOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU'VE DONE THE HARD GRIND THE FIRST FEW MONTHS***

We've now passed the threshold for moving up the units BUT now we've broken the back of this grind Our bankroll at the end of month 7 is going to be about £650 as a minimum...from the above bankroll ratio chart we can see that £650 will let us bet £9 units <- we jumped past £8 units and went straight for £9

We increase therefore the unit value from £7 up to £9..i.e. our BR is above £630 as shown in the chart above, to safely bet £9 as a unit...but still betting 1, 2, 4 units...nothing more, nothing less



Month 8 we once again hit with a cheer given the unit values we can use now but remember we are STILL ONLY BETTING 1, 2, 4 UNITS!! NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS

Month 8 - 20 units grinded out @ £9 per unit = £180 all the while only betting 1, 2, 4 units
£180 winnings + our BR of £650 will give us about £830 as a minimum by end of month 8
-What did we do in month 7? Bet 1, 2, 4, units...nothing more...nothing less....

***THIS NEXT BIT IS SIGNIFICANT AS YOU CAN SEE NOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU'VE DONE THE HARD GRIND THE FIRST FEW MONTHS***

We've now passed the threshold for moving up the units BUT now we've broken the back of this grind Our bankroll at the end of month 8 is going to be about £830 as a minimum...from the above bankroll ratio chart we can see that £830 will let us bet £11 units <- we jumped past £10 units and went straight for £11

We increase therefore the unit value from £9 up to £11..i.e. our BR is above £770 as shown in the chart above, to safely bet £11 as a unit...but still betting 1, 2, 4 units...nothing more, nothing less



Month 9 - 20 units grinded out @ £11 per unit = £220 all the while only betting 1, 2, 4 units
£220 winnings + our BR of £830 will give us about £1050 as a minimum by end of month 9
-What did we do in month 7? Bet 1, 2, 4, units...nothing more...nothing less....

This breaks the £1000 barrier and we'll be cashing out as stated in the Speramus rules.

BUT...given that we'll be breaking the threshold of increasing unit values during the months and it won't be so uniform as shown above....we'll be knocking at least a month if not 6-8 weeks off this plan of action.

What did you notice through reading all that? Yes that's right we were still betting 1, 2, 4 units...nothing more, nothing less   no matter when our BR was £150 or £1000....WE ONLY BET 1 UNIT, 2 UNITS, 4 UNITS...and ground the units out of it for 7/8 months.

By grinding and patience you can see how this starts to fly later on after you've put in the hard few initial months in. IMO I'd suggest you STOP looking at thigns from a money value when betting and look to convert that thinking to units and playing 1, 2, 4 units relentlessly like a robot until you hit the level you are happy at.

I've done a chart where I've got all unit values and BR's needed up to £100 unit values

Imagine 20 units when you've got a BR that lets you play unit values of £25...£50...or more! All the while just betting the usual 1, 2, 4 units like we've done since month 1

That's the target and the above strategy is a decent grinder way to approach it



Just reposting this to keep the info in one place....

TREMENDOUS work here Subby, AMAZING.


PB 4 DL, although a method which has to show any consistency, was developed to eventually play with VERY large units. However to get to this stage, would as you mention,  take a longtime.


Because PB 4 DL uses less units proportionally to PB it would take less spins/time.


I like the thought of just playing 1 game per day : )

Quote from: AMK on December 12, 2012, 11:21:59 PM
TREMENDOUS work here Subby, AMAZING.


PB 4 DL, although a method which has to show any consistency, was developed to eventually play with VERY large units. However to get to this stage, would as you mention,  take a longtime.


Because PB 4 DL uses less units proportionally to PB it would take less spins/time.


I like the thought of just playing 1 game per day : )

Truly inspirational AMK. You focus, visualize your plan of action then make it a reality.

Quote from: AMK on December 12, 2012, 11:21:59 PM
TREMENDOUS work here Subby, AMAZING.


PB 4 DL, although a method which has to show any consistency, was developed to eventually play with VERY large units. However to get to this stage, would as you mention,  take a longtime.


Because PB 4 DL uses less units proportionally to PB it would take less spins/time.


I like the thought of just playing 1 game per day : )

It is my aim to eventually be playing with £40+ units with a BR over £5k. Your aim of 1 game a day would be my ideal grind too. Even if you had a dreadful run you'd still look to pull out a 10 units profit, overall, in a month. If you're playing £40 units then that is £400 which isn't to be sniffed at..imagine you got a streak and ended up 25+ units up a month...£1000 in a month 

Playing fewer games with larger unit size is my preferred option too 

Quote from: subby on December 13, 2012, 07:38:07 PM
It is my aim to eventually be playing with £40+ units with a BR over £5k. Your aim of 1 game a day would be my ideal grind too. Even if you had a dreadful run you'd still look to pull out a 10 units profit, overall, in a month. If you're playing £40 units then that is £400 which isn't to be sniffed at..imagine you got a streak and ended up 25+ units up a month...£1000 in a month 

Playing fewer games with larger unit size is my preferred option too 

You know Subby, the OCCASIONAL blitz doesn't do you any harm either. Do you remember when you went around all the tables at PADDYPOWER. And played one game each and that was that??.

That's not a bad thing at all once in a while. I am thinking of doing the same soon. Although I am playing the original way for PATTERN BREAKER now. So I am only playing HIGH LOW. And at the moment I am only playing one table on PP.

When I reach a certain level. I will be alot more adventurous. I am also using various MM strategies to protect hard earned profits. I HATE GIVING THEM BACK. So after 5 consecutive wins. I will only play the 2nd and 3rd steps until I lose. So when I do lose I am only handing back 3 POINTS instead of 7.

I like to be playing with winnings casino money. It makes me feel more comfortable. And willing to take more risks. Yes its all relative. Lets say one day you are palying for £40 points. Twenty of those a month will do very nicely.

Quote from: JohnLegend on December 13, 2012, 07:47:53 PM

When I reach a certain level. I will be alot more adventurous. I am also using various MM strategies to protect hard earned profits. I HATE GIVING THEM BACK. So after 5 consecutive wins. I will only play the 2nd and 3rd steps until I lose. So when I do lose I am only handing back 3 POINTS instead of 7.

That's definitely a good way to approach it...I like that idea but I'm locked in to rules. I'll look to be doing what you've said above, when I am playing my own BR






********************************

My money management plan for anyone wanting to have a look at it. I uploaded it twice in error but I can't remove one of them  It is the same file.

This has 10x a BR, 15x a BR and 20 x a BR total loss setup. Along with green insurance info and projected earnings for units won. Someone might find it in some way, useful 

Quote from: subby on December 13, 2012, 08:07:05 PM
That's definitely a good way to approach it...I like that idea but I'm locked in to rules. I'll look to be doing what you've said above, when I am playing my own BR






********************************

My money management plan for anyone wanting to have a look at it. I uploaded it twice in error but I can't remove one of them  It is the same file.

This has 10x a BR, 15x a BR and 20 x a BR total loss setup. Along with green insurance info and projected earnings for units won. Someone might find it in some way, useful 

I know Subby, also playing the way I started. Losing is becoming more of a stranger. I came off a 28 game winning streak on BV.Then won 4 more there before we had to bail.

Now have won 11 on PADDYPOWER so far giving me a 28---15 and counting. I could never do this when I played both HIGH LOW and ODD EVEN. You would get decent streaks 15 plus. But then always have a sub 15 streak afterwards.