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Good luck gents


Drazen

Quote from: Drazen on January 15, 2013, 02:13:04 PM
Good luck gents

Drazen

It is not luck but logic. Luck won't let u cross 10 million spins.

No I meant on luck general, now when you apparently have never losing thing 


Use it wisely


Drazen

Quote from: albalaha on January 15, 2013, 02:18:37 PM
                It is not luck but logic. Luck won't let u cross 10 million spins.

I do not agree! All possible ways can not be covered. I do not say you can not win(even a lot and many times) but it is not 100% sure. Luck can take you far. Unluck can kill anytime.

Quote from: Ralph on January 15, 2013, 02:27:45 PM
I do not agree! All possible ways can not be covered. I do not say you can not win(even a lot and many times) but it is not 100% sure. Luck can take you far. Unluck can kill anytime.

Leave your prejudices aside. Let us have more data to test. 10 millions strong, can not be wrong and we never said, it can't have any drawdowns.

QuoteI do not agree! All possible ways can not be covered.

If you cover all, you still lose 1 unit in every spin.

Based on the graphs, the system must be using a negative progression. I wonder what would be the high-level logic behind this approach..

Quote from: Lupo on January 15, 2013, 02:52:09 PM
Based on the graphs, the system must be using a negative progression. I wonder what would be the high-level logic behind this approach..

You may try to beat 10 millions spins with any negative progression u may think of or heard of or read of and you be many millions down in loss.

Well, I don't fully agree. After millions of bets, your loss is primarily determined by the negative expectation. I really doubt that would be "millions".


What actually counts is the number of bets placed, not spins. You should reveal that number and we might be able to discuss some probabilities.

Why sell this if its half as good as you claim. You should be using it yourself to make a mint as I will with my methods.

Not showing graphs of something with no clear cut rules. And asking people to part with money for it.

If its good it should stand up on the original format of roulette. THE LIVE WHEEL.

Come out of theoretical world. You can never think of what the bot is doing. Play with any trigger, progression or flat bet, u will come out as a loser in long run. We have got guts to prove this thing is a winner in long term. No method ever written in any forum has the capability to replicate this success.

Quote from: JohnLegend on January 15, 2013, 03:33:44 PM
Why sell this if its half as good as you claim. You should be using it yourself to make a mint as I will with my methods.

Not showing graphs of something with no clear cut rules. And asking people to part with money for it.

If its good it should stand up on the original format of roulette. THE LIVE WHEEL.

We have tested it on all data that u can imagine. Ophis or me need not sell or hire it but we can give the same opportunity to earn to others. 10% of the sale proceeds or rent of bot will go to this Forum's upkeep.

Quote from: albalaha on January 15, 2013, 03:36:29 PM
Come out of theoretical world. You can never think of what the bot is doing. Play with any trigger, progression or flat bet, u will come out as a loser in long run. We have got guts to prove this thing is a winner in long term. No method ever written in any forum has the capability to replicate this success.

The problem Albalaha is your going to go over virtually everyones head with this.

If you don't spell out what its about. How much bankroll required to work it for starters? And the ultimate scenario. Actually prove its success. With hard cash, no one can dispute that.

Instead of asking people to buy something they haven't a clue about. that's something im totally against.

Quote from: albalaha on January 15, 2013, 03:40:06 PM10% of the sale proceeds or rent of bot will go to this Forum's upkeep.

Thank you dear Sumit.
That would be VERY appreciated