ROLEX WATCH....think u need to check profits on that chart its completely way off what it should be...its an 11 number bet....[smiley]aes/coffee.png[/smiley]...

after reading the ideas of what if possible a flat bet or just simply a winning system or bet is or if it in fact is really possible i,ve come up with two conclusions...


1st conclusion is we bet and progress to gain units/money quickly....we hope to win more than lose and think we are doing well....it is after all our reward for our risk....we need to progress to make money quickly...time ratio to earnings and all that...in reality we win we lose ...hopefully most of us break even....we don,t gain anything...but enjoy the thrill of the hunt for a HG


2nd conclusion is the flat bet way...i love the idea of betting bigger units because we are not progressing to an extortionate amount...more money in the kitty then....the reality here is the patience of a stone is needed...there are ideas that different systems played in tune to what you see displayed in front of you is the key....good idea except that when you do recognize that it could well and truly be too late....i can assure you the certain people who make this claim could be making millions if it were that simple..


the true way is to follow the  tables fluctuations ...the ebbs and the flows ....taking 3 steps forwards and 2 steps back...slowly...much beyond anything i could do with the sheer tediousness of it...the sheer numbers of spins that are needed to flatbet throughout...it could take many thousands of spins from the run from hell to get back from the pit of doom but it can be done....in theory that is...here is a picture from over 100 000 spins from a system nick made a long time back   [attach=1]


this is flatbetting all the way..checking on it time to time i did notice it was down from highest point over 80 euro,,,but it recovered...take no notice of small red lowest amount the bot doesn,t show the true losses in a way a graph would....i have the opposite sheet to this also....which flatbets and works the same...but has slightly more bets placed than this one...both opposites but both win....
the sheer spun numbers to make this work is impossible in a bricks and mortar casino...and more so at betvoyager or online casinos through connections being cut....


so my summary at this present point is  yes it is possible to win but impossible to implement it...drawdowns need a lot of time to come back from flatbetting but can be done in theory ...progressions can be lost many times and never be recovered....except in imaginations


patience of a stone....my friends..patience of a stone [smiley]aes/coffee.png[/smiley]

ok its not really playable on bv becouse of cut offs and high drawdowns,,,,but it,ll pass the 1 million bet test with bot set at up 1 on a loss and up 1 on a win and reset at new high,,,and stoploss and winnings set as high as you can...its an old system i have...just testing the new ds bet then i,ll send it to Vic to upload...[attach=1]

also wish i could upload this system for bot...but site won,t let me  [attachimg=1]

pretty interesting as nick is in final stages of a ds system for bot for me....when it is done i,ll upload for everyone and for other bot users if i can.....mine involves a doublestreet ds....which has hit twice.......no more...so we have 6 ds  in total .....if we get 3..5..5..6....ds out..we have ds5 out twice encaptured by two other ds....we simply bet against that pattern repeating....ie ds 3...5..5..6..


It will have virtual losses built in ....as its only a 4 stage progression it can get high...


when its ready i,ll see how to get it too you    [attach=1]

glad to help   

let me know if it works for you 

hi hopefully it will get through to you Victor i have put them on google drive and shared it with you...i gave the original exec for bv and the rar one i compressed if you could upload to site it may be of help to everyone with the problem   

yes it still runs i re installed it and bot works as usual...i,ve packed it into a rar file for extraction but neither this or the other site will let me upload even that as it 6.6mb big...i don,t know how i can get it to you 

i have the original bv setup application for installing betvoyager as standard for stefs bot but cannot upload the exec file to here...i once updated and bot had probs  had install it with this original exec .. if stef wants it i,ll give it on skype so he can upload on his site for anyone who wants to re install it and give it a shot 

you know i like my virtual bets Sam lol....i know nick really loves doing them...   best thing for bot is a graph

maestro,,,the excel bot is not the system...it runs systems that are built in excel...so the bot can run any system u make up.....think of it like the amazon kindle....the kindle is just a reader with extra bits added on..its the content that people put in and sell that's the actual content...same for the excel bot...weddings results shown are short burst of bets...look at the time per session...the bot is logging in and out at these points automatically...


is the system good ? who knows i have plenty of systems that do excactly this...and show these kind of results..the results shown here are only SHORT burst...not a long lengthy session...even when adding up the minutes....


i totally agree that if a winning system wins its self perpetuating and no money needed to invest...its called compounding...no disrespect weddings.....i give my sheets away ...i never ask for money for them even though i pay to have them made...i even give them before i tested them myself to people on my skype contacts.....i,m offered money towards the costs but i refuse outright....


no disrespect is intended....but think about it logically before you hand money over...

hi Vic...which downloads are we talking about?....it won,t be sheets ..excel sheets and systems trackers etc will it?      that we post or  upload?   

i don,t know normy...my dublin bet bot and smartlive bot been out of action for a while,,,,still waiting for a reply off stef about it been over a month now...anyone else having any problems with these...only bv works for me..very frustrating

i wish we had features like facebook Sam,...i would hit the like hand thumbs up on that comment