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#1
I loaded the software download right here as a zip file.

https://betselection.cc/index.php?topic=11616.new#new
#2
Members' software / Hot Number software
August 06, 2023, 10:31:21 PM
Here is that software for learning about number intervals and the nature of hottest numbers I wrote years ago:

#3
TurboGenius has a thread somewhere that mentions a racehorse method. He discloses the nature of hot numbers and when they change to other hottest numbers in that thread. He's keeping this a secret yet he talks around the secret. Then there is Ken (Two Cats Sam) and other names for him that learned the secret and has a thread that shows him coming off of numbers in his method to target these best choices. I know the secret. It's Turbo's to tell. I used it the last time out. I see it in practice. I wrote a software app that shows the nature of hot number intervals between hits. It's downloadable from the software section for free use and discusion.

I use my normal play to fund big bets on my chance at these hottest numbers. It hit when I was on it too. There was one more hit in that cluster. I don't know if it is OK to show a URL to that download page for the hot number sim App.
#4
Gizmotron / Re: Single Dozen (any 12 numbers)
August 05, 2023, 06:05:48 PM
By using $5 & $5 for the base flat bet on two dozens and then going up to a three step $10, $20, and $40 up and pull bet to finish off any win streak on a single dozen, you can take a little each step of a three step parlay.

You bet $10 on the selected dozen and $5 on the other not sleeping dozen. Next you bet $20 on the winner and $5 on the other not sleeping dozen. And last you bet $40 & $5. So you protect all the way with a hedged bet or a winner if you guess right on the parlay. The only thing that kills this is the sleeper waking up or the singles ending in a chop cycle. For that matter if you guess which dozen is the cold dozen wrong.
#5
Gizmotron / Single Dozen (any 12 numbers)
August 05, 2023, 05:47:11 PM
If you can get three in a row you can really make out:

"Imagine just what you can get from three single dozen's winnings from a parlay, $50 becomes $150, $150 becomes $450, and $450 becomes $1,350 all in around five minutes. That's 27 attempts just to break even. The casino is in fact a gold mine to those trained in the skills of mining it."

#6
Here it is in a proportional font so that the columns line up better:


| 1  2  3 | A  B  C | 0  3  6 | P |
| X       |       X |    X    | P | -- 12
| X       |    X    | X       | P | -- 2
| X       | X       |    X    |   | -- 7
|       X |    X    |       X | P | -- 32
|       X |       X |    X    |   | -- 30
| X       |    X    |    X    |   | -- 8
|       X |       X | X       |   | -- 36
|    X    | X       | X       |   | -- 13
|       X |    X    |    X    |   | -- 29
|       X |       X | X       |   | -- 36
| X       |    X    | X       | P | -- 2
|       X |    X    |    X    |   | -- 29
|       X |    X    |    X    |   | -- 29
|       X |       X | X       |   | -- 36
| X       |    X    |    X    | P | -- 11
|       X |    X    | X       |   | -- 26
|       X | X       |       X | P | -- 31
|       X | X       | X       |   | -- 25
| X       |    X    |       X | P | -- 5
|       X | X       | X       |   | -- 25
|    X    |    X    |       X | P | -- 17
|       X |       X |    X    |   | -- 30
| X       |       X | X       |   | -- 9
|    X    |       X |       X |   | -- 21
|    X    |    X    |       X | P | -- 17
|    X    | X       | X       |   | -- 13
|    X    | X       | X       |   | -- 13
|       X |    X    | X       |   | -- 35
|       X |    X    |       X | P | -- 32
|       X | X       | X       | P | -- 28
|    X    |       X |    X    |   | -- 24
|       X | X       | X       |   | -- 25
|    X    |       X |    X    |   | -- 15
| X       | X       | X       |   | -- 10
|       X |    X    | X       |   | -- 35
|    X    |       X |       X | P | -- 18
| X       | X       |    X    |   | -- 7
|       X |       X | X       | P | -- 27
|       X | X       | X       |   | -- 25
|       X |       X |    X    |   | -- 30
|    X    | X       |       X |   | -- 22
|       X |       X | X       | P | -- 27
|       X |       X | X       |   | -- 36
| X       | X       | X       | P | -- 1
|       X |       X |       X |   | -- 33
|       X |       X | X       |   | -- 36
|       X | X       |       X |   | -- 34
|       X | X       | X       |   | -- 25
|    X    |    X    | X       |   | -- 14
|    X    |    X    |       X |   | -- 20
| X       |       X |    X    | P | -- 12
|    X    |    X    |    X    |   | -- 23
|       X |       X |    X    |   | -- 30
| X       |    X    |       X | P | -- 5
|    X    |    X    | X       |   | -- 14
|    X    |    X    |       X | P | -- 17
|       X |    X    | X       |   | -- 26
|       X |    X    | X       |   | -- 35
| X       | X       | X       |   | -- 10
|       X |       X | X       | P | -- 27
|       X | X       |       X | P | -- 31
| X       | X       |    X    |   | -- 7
|    X    |       X |    X    |   | -- 24
|    X    | X       |    X    |   | -- 16
|    X    | X       |       X |   | -- 22
|    X    |    X    | X       |   | -- 14
| X       |       X |    X    | P | -- 3
|       X |    X    | X       |   | -- 26
| X       | X       | X       |   | -- 10
|    X    |    X    | X       |   | -- 14
|    X    | X       |    X    |   | -- 16
|       X |    X    |       X | P | -- 32
| X       |       X |    X    | P | -- 12
| X       | X       | X       |   | -- 10
|    X    |    X    |       X | P | -- 17
| X       | X       | X       | P | -- 1
| X       |       X |    X    | P | -- 3
| X       |    X    |    X    | P | -- 11
|       X |    X    | X       |   | -- 35
|       X |    X    |    X    |   | -- 29
| X       | X       | X       | P | -- 1
|-------------------| X       | P | -- 37
| X       |       X |    X    | P | -- 12
|    X    | X       |    X    |   | -- 16
| X       | X       |    X    | P | -- 4
|    X    |    X    | X       |   | -- 14
|    X    | X       |    X    |   | -- 16
|       X | X       | X       |   | -- 25
|-------------------| X       | P | -- 37
|-------------------| X       | P | -- 37
| X       | X       | X       | P | -- 1
|    X    |    X    |       X |   | -- 20
| X       | X       | X       | P | -- 1
|    X    |       X |    X    |   | -- 24
|    X    | X       |       X |   | -- 19
| X       | X       | X       | P | -- 1
| X       |       X | X       |   | -- 9
|    X    |    X    |       X |   | -- 20
| X       |    X    |    X    |   | -- 8
|       X | X       |       X | P | -- 31
| X       |    X    | X       | P | -- 2
| X       |    X    | X       | P | -- 2
|    X    | X       |       X |   | -- 19
|    X    |       X |       X | P | -- 18
| X       |    X    | X       | P | -- 2
| X       | X       |    X    | P | -- 4
|       X | X       |       X | P | -- 31
| X       |    X    | X       | P | -- 2
|    X    |    X    |       X |   | -- 20
|    X    |    X    |    X    |   | -- 23
|    X    |       X |       X | P | -- 18
| X       |    X    |    X    | P | -- 11
| X       | X       | X       | P | -- 1
|       X |       X |    X    |   | -- 30
|       X |       X |       X |   | -- 33
| X       |    X    |    X    |   | -- 8



wow, the 1st dozen has a streak of more than 60 spins where they hit as singles. Now that is a money maker.


#7
QuoteYou can see that second dozen is hitting too low in the last 22 spins. Only two wins.
I get better cases than this. What could win it most?

I took your spins and entered them into my double dozen practice software so that I could use visual dexterity to see what you mean.



| 1  2  3 | A  B  C | 0  3  6 | P |
| X       |       X |    X    | P | -- 12
| X       |    X    | X       | P | -- 2
| X       | X       |    X    |   | -- 7
|       X |    X    |       X | P | -- 32
|       X |       X |    X    |   | -- 30
| X       |    X    |    X    |   | -- 8
|       X |       X | X       |   | -- 36
|    X    | X       | X       |   | -- 13
|       X |    X    |    X    |   | -- 29
|       X |       X | X       |   | -- 36
| X       |    X    | X       | P | -- 2
|       X |    X    |    X    |   | -- 29
|       X |    X    |    X    |   | -- 29
|       X |       X | X       |   | -- 36
| X       |    X    |    X    | P | -- 11
|       X |    X    | X       |   | -- 26
|       X | X       |       X | P | -- 31
|       X | X       | X       |   | -- 25
| X       |    X    |       X | P | -- 5
|       X | X       | X       |   | -- 25
|    X    |    X    |       X | P | -- 17
|       X |       X |    X    |   | -- 30
| X       |       X | X       |   | -- 9
|    X    |       X |       X |   | -- 21
|    X    |    X    |       X | P | -- 17
|    X    | X       | X       |   | -- 13
|    X    | X       | X       |   | -- 13


I get 23 spins with the middle dozen only hitting 2 times.
I also get the first 10 spins in the columns hitting as singles.
The primes hit as singles for the last 24 spins too.
The first 12 in the dozens go on a streak of singles. for more than 20 spins.

It takes two winning bets to pay for each losing bet at the same price. What if your session goal is to win just three net wins where you bet 24 numbers and you quit the session in the aggregate of three net wins?

Here is the full chart for a lot more spins. You can look down the columns of the groupings for your spins and see all kinds of opportunities.


| 1  2  3 | A  B  C | 0  3  6 | P |
| X      |      X |    X    | P | -- 12
| X      |    X    | X      | P | -- 2
| X      | X      |    X    |  | -- 7
|      X |    X    |      X | P | -- 32
|      X |      X |    X    |  | -- 30
| X      |    X    |    X    |  | -- 8
|      X |      X | X      |  | -- 36
|    X    | X      | X      |  | -- 13
|      X |    X    |    X    |  | -- 29
|      X |      X | X      |  | -- 36
| X      |    X    | X      | P | -- 2
|      X |    X    |    X    |  | -- 29
|      X |    X    |    X    |  | -- 29
|      X |      X | X      |  | -- 36
| X      |    X    |    X    | P | -- 11
|      X |    X    | X      |  | -- 26
|      X | X      |      X | P | -- 31
|      X | X      | X      |  | -- 25
| X      |    X    |      X | P | -- 5
|      X | X      | X      |  | -- 25
|    X    |    X    |      X | P | -- 17
|      X |      X |    X    |  | -- 30
| X      |      X | X      |  | -- 9
|    X    |      X |      X |  | -- 21
|    X    |    X    |      X | P | -- 17
|    X    | X      | X      |  | -- 13
|    X    | X      | X      |  | -- 13
|      X |    X    | X      |  | -- 35
|      X |    X    |      X | P | -- 32
|      X | X      | X      | P | -- 28
|    X    |      X |    X    |  | -- 24
|      X | X      | X      |  | -- 25
|    X    |      X |    X    |  | -- 15
| X      | X      | X      |  | -- 10
|      X |    X    | X      |  | -- 35
|    X    |      X |      X | P | -- 18
| X      | X      |    X    |  | -- 7
|      X |      X | X      | P | -- 27
|      X | X      | X      |  | -- 25
|      X |      X |    X    |  | -- 30
|    X    | X      |      X |  | -- 22
|      X |      X | X      | P | -- 27
|      X |      X | X      |  | -- 36
| X      | X      | X      | P | -- 1
|      X |      X |      X |  | -- 33
|      X |      X | X      |  | -- 36
|      X | X      |      X |  | -- 34
|      X | X      | X      |  | -- 25
|    X    |    X    | X      |  | -- 14
|    X    |    X    |      X |  | -- 20
| X      |      X |    X    | P | -- 12
|    X    |    X    |    X    |  | -- 23
|      X |      X |    X    |  | -- 30
| X      |    X    |      X | P | -- 5
|    X    |    X    | X      |  | -- 14
|    X    |    X    |      X | P | -- 17
|      X |    X    | X      |  | -- 26
|      X |    X    | X      |  | -- 35
| X      | X      | X      |  | -- 10
|      X |      X | X      | P | -- 27
|      X | X      |      X | P | -- 31
| X      | X      |    X    |  | -- 7
|    X    |      X |    X    |  | -- 24
|    X    | X      |    X    |  | -- 16
|    X    | X      |      X |  | -- 22
|    X    |    X    | X      |  | -- 14
| X      |      X |    X    | P | -- 3
|      X |    X    | X      |  | -- 26
| X      | X      | X      |  | -- 10
|    X    |    X    | X      |  | -- 14
|    X    | X      |    X    |  | -- 16
|      X |    X    |      X | P | -- 32
| X      |      X |    X    | P | -- 12
| X      | X      | X      |  | -- 10
|    X    |    X    |      X | P | -- 17
| X      | X      | X      | P | -- 1
| X      |      X |    X    | P | -- 3
| X      |    X    |    X    | P | -- 11
|      X |    X    | X      |  | -- 35
|      X |    X    |    X    |  | -- 29
| X      | X      | X      | P | -- 1
|-------------------| X      | P | -- 37
| X      |      X |    X    | P | -- 12
|    X    | X      |    X    |  | -- 16
| X      | X      |    X    | P | -- 4
|    X    |    X    | X      |  | -- 14
|    X    | X      |    X    |  | -- 16
|      X | X      | X      |  | -- 25
|-------------------| X      | P | -- 37
|-------------------| X      | P | -- 37
| X      | X      | X      | P | -- 1
|    X    |    X    |      X |  | -- 20
| X      | X      | X      | P | -- 1
|    X    |      X |    X    |  | -- 24
|    X    | X      |      X |  | -- 19
| X      | X      | X      | P | -- 1
| X      |      X | X      |  | -- 9
|    X    |    X    |      X |  | -- 20
| X      |    X    |    X    |  | -- 8
|      X | X      |      X | P | -- 31
| X      |    X    | X      | P | -- 2
| X      |    X    | X      | P | -- 2
|    X    | X      |      X |  | -- 19
|    X    |      X |      X | P | -- 18
| X      |    X    | X      | P | -- 2
| X      | X      |    X    | P | -- 4
|      X | X      |      X | P | -- 31
| X      |    X    | X      | P | -- 2
|    X    |    X    |      X |  | -- 20
|    X    |    X    |    X    |  | -- 23
|    X    |      X |      X | P | -- 18
| X      |    X    |    X    | P | -- 11
| X      | X      | X      | P | -- 1
|      X |      X |    X    |  | -- 30
|      X |      X |      X |  | -- 33
| X      |    X    |    X    |  | -- 8


#8
Like this:
first step -- $400 ( $200 & $200 ) $200 for each dozen, take off $100 on first win

second step -- $500 ( $250 & $250 ) $250 for each dozen, take off $100 on second win

third step -- $$600 ( $300 & $300 ) $300 for each dozen, take off $150 on third win

fourth step -- $$700 ( $350 & $350 ) $350 for each dozen, take off $200 on fourth win

fifth step -- $$700 ( $350 & $350 ) $350 for each dozen, take off $300 on fifth win

sixth step -- $600 ( $300 & $300 ) $300 for each dozen, take off $300 on sixth win

seventh step -- $$600 ( $300 & $300 ) $300 for each dozen, take off everything, $900

on first bet -$400 in game
on second bet -$300 in game
on third bet -$50 in game
on fourth bet +$150 in pocket
on fifth bet +$450 in pocket
on sixth bet +$750 in pocket
on seventh bet +$1650 in pocket


#9
Quote from: Albalaha on June 28, 2023, 05:19:24 PMYesterday I got a dozen sleeper for about 19 times and after a win again for 9 times before a WLW came and end the streak.
 I want some progression that could exploit such cases fully. Anything else that could help winning better?

I was just trying to illustrate the idea of up & pull. I have one for double dozens and sleeping dozens. I think I posted it already. It's also Up & Pull based. You just take a little off as you go on winning.

So it goes like this:

$200 ( $100 & $100 )
$300 ( $150 & $150 )
$450 ( $225 & $225 )
$675 ( $337.50 & $337.50 )
$1012.50 ( $506.25 & $506.25 )

Just take this and make it 1 to 4 steps for Up & Pull.
#10
Quote from: KungFuBac on June 27, 2023, 02:32:04 PMNathan Detroit poster

He posts over at the forum where I posted the Reading Randomness theory thread and where you have the supporting practice software for free download. He's been a John Patrick fan for decades. His big thing is one-liners. It's irritating to many readers over there. He never explains anything. John Patrick has written many books on gambling. JP sucks at explaining trends and patterns and never suggests that they only work some of the times. The trick is in knowing when they are working. The pit bosses know when they are working. They always come around to see the action.
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Quote from: Albalaha on June 26, 2023, 02:50:47 PMWhich progression you know of that can do the best in the given cases?

That's simple. It's John Patricks "Up & Pull." The first move is steep. You see Nathan Detroit always talking about 2, 1, 2, 3 etc... The idea is to take a little off as you go upward and onward.

I like this idea. You use a base value for each step of a seven layered Martingale. Say it's $10. So the first bet would be $70. You let one of the $10 ride for one win in a row. So on a win all $70 wins on an EC bet. You take off $20 and let the rest ride. So $120 rides to the next win. That takes you up to $240 where you now take off $40 more for the second step winner. You get a third step winner and your $200 in the game now becomes $400. You take off $80 and are now in profit with four more steps to go. 

The fourth winner in a row would be from $320 to $640 where you "Up & Pull" $160. You have $480 in the game now for step 5. $480 becomes $960 and you take off $320 with the sixth level winner. Now for the last, the seventh level, the last $10 of the original $70, You have $640 in the game. It wins and you take out the last $1,280. This is what I mean by an Up & Pull, as you go along progression
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Quote from: Albalaha on June 25, 2023, 07:28:26 AMhow to frame our positive progression to optimize the wins,

I have done this in a way that minimises the likelihood that you will stop before a lost bet, one that kills the progression, before it will occur. I stop at 5 steps. Now if you see a swarm of 3's or 4's in a row then it is logical to stop on 3 or 4 in a row, respectively. I observe the conditions. They tell you what to conform to.
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General Discussion / Re: Gambling Quotes
June 14, 2023, 05:28:52 PM
Quote from: alrelax on June 14, 2023, 04:16:12 PMPaul Newman, The Colour of Money (1986) quote: "Money won is twice as sweet as money earned."

My favorite.
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Quote from: 8OR9 on June 12, 2023, 03:04:56 AMfor example if the number 5 came up 3 times in your 18 number count, would you put three chips on number 5 for a total bet of 20 chips on the table?

I do this all the time. But I only do it for zero and double zero on the American Wheel. Sometimes the greens go to sleep for more than 100 spins at a time. At others times they heat up and come in swarms.

I suppose I should look for any two super hot numbers. It means keeping a second hit chart to track the two hottest numbers. In answering your question, I do recognize  that hot numbers tend to come in groups of 3 to 5 hits in a short span and then tend to cool off for a 50 to 70 spin gap. I'm not that good at betting hottest numbers.

I started all this out with the three hottest numbers back around 1995. That's how I got going with Reading Randomness. I later learned that swarms of sleeping 12's or swarms of singles in the dozens or columns was very common. It happens to a lesser degree in the 18's, but the characteristics are still true. EC betting, guessing, is still a good speculation. You get swarms of singles and strong dominations. You get absence of singles. All these things can swarm as the global effect across the 12 sets that make up the 6 groupings. I exploit that when it happens.

This is why I don't chart for the hottest numbers. You never know when they will cool off. But the greens are already charted in my charts. So I can see when they are above average active. I get what I want from the basic characteristics of randomness. It's working or it's getting killed on the first try in a swarm. I don't use negative progressions.
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Quote from: alrelax on June 10, 2023, 10:11:14 PMMark, if you were to wager $25.00 straight up per number, for say 18 numbers per spin, how would you pick the numbers. 

I would look for the 18 most active numbers. Still I would expect to lose one third of the bets as the law of thirds tends to come true. So 6 numbers would come up as losers from the less dominant side. Still though I would expect to win 12 of the numbers if things tended to act normally. It's breaking the wheel into halves if you ignore the greens. I'd be looking for strong half vs weak half.