Quote from: Gizmotron on August 07, 2016, 05:06:01 AM
I don't need the money. My life could be less accomplished but I don't care anymore.

Here is what is going to happen. The Math Nazis and the absolutist faction of the  probability theorists either win this war or they don't.

I will build the app as a proof of concept device. It will be open source. I will answer every question asked of me here as if I were a tutor asking money for it. I'm done being mad at the naysayers.  I'm ready to wreck the opportunity. DEAL WITH IT.

Thank you for putting forth this offer. I accept. It is very gracious of you to provide the community the knowledge of your real life experience and years of research on what really works for you.

Is it possible for you to summarize a concise way on how to go about using your discovery without searching or waiting for something else to happen now?

This thread is yours to make shine and I commend you for your efforts.

Justin

Quote from: Nickmsi on July 13, 2016, 01:43:45 PM

The question is can we improve this basic VDW system?

Some of your suggestions might lead us to a better method.  Like, bbbbbb128 asked "how do we handle the Mutual Bets".

Right now we skip (no bet) when there is a Mutual bet and start a new cycle.

But what if we bet instead of skip?

What would you bet?  Would it help to bet just one side, like banker or Red for the entire cycle?

Could we bet both Banker & Player for first 4 hands and then bet just one of them for the last 5 hands of the cycle? Or vice versa?

Could we bet all 3 EC instead of just one in roulette?

Would be bet all 3 EC Independent of each other or dependent on each other?

Could we bet something other than an EC?

Just food for thought.
Cheers

NIck

Nick, you are asking the right questions on getting to the best way for bet selection. 

In order to safely develop a method and "Play" any selections there are only two additional "Must Have" information:

1. What is the maximum inner drawdown per session?

2. Statistics on how many consecutive losses before a win?

With these additional pieces of the puzzle, one can create many profitable systems of play while knowing how much bankroll is needed to "Rarely or Never" Bust.

Ultimately I believe this is what some of us want to do with VDW.

I'm wondering if you can use your rare programming talents and include the above two into the results?

Thank you again for working so hard on this.

Justin

Quote from: Nickmsi on July 12, 2016, 08:28:51 PM
Hello Justme . . .

When I tested for the Stop Losses, I started a new cycle every time it hit the Stop Loss setting.  So if Stop Loss set a (-1) then at the first loss we would start a new cycle.

A Stop Loss of (-2) would mean we had a loss of -1 followed by another loss of (-1) OR we first had a loss of (-1) then a Win of (+1) and then and then we had 2 losses in a row.

The same is true for the Profit Target.  Almost all the time the Profit Target is set for (+1) so at first profit we start a new cycle.

Yes I did test 100 sessions of 3,000 spins and the results below.  A Stop Loss of (-2) was better than (-1).

Cheers

Nick

Awesome Nick!
Is it possible for you to post the results of the Stop loss of (-1) for comparison?

Also, have you been able to construct a solid betting system with a best progression, session length and bankroll needed for an EC ?

The info shows the low (-37) and high (+67) but what is the maximum drawdown inner session?

What are the computed statistics on how many consecutive losses before a win?

Thanks again,
Justin

Quote from: Nickmsi on July 06, 2016, 01:33:47 AM
Good timing with your question, Whopper.

The VDW as explained in this thread is the basic (original) method.

I have a tweaked VDW that will be used in my bot for Roulette No Zero tables.  Future plans call for the bot to play on line baccarat.

I just finished today testing my VDW to see the results if we used a Stop Loss of either -1, -2, -3, -4.

I only have the preliminary results based on 20 Sessions of 3,000 spins each for the 4 different Stop Losses.

Stop Loss = -1      Stop Loss = -2      Stop Loss = -3      Stop Loss = -4
Won 15/20 Sessions   Won 17/20 Sessions   Won 14/20 Sessions   Won 15/20 Sessions
Profit = 427 Units   Profit = 428 Units   Profit = 280 Units   Profit = 328 Units

So you can see using a Stop Loss does make a difference for my VDW for Roulette, I don't know if you will get similar results with the basic VDW method.

Next thing I have to do is test Stop Losses (-1 & -2) for 100 Sessions of 3,000 spins each to see if the results hold up.

Cheers

Nick

Excellent job! Love your work Nick!!!

All questions below are based on the  (stop loss of -1 profit +427).

Questions are that just losing the 12(3) three or lose at (5) and do you reset the AP set from that loss or do you virtual bet the remaining set to 9 and restart there?

Basically this would mean all 2 in a row goes to 3 or lose at (5) and reset? If so, reset from where?

Have you tested the 100 Sessions of 3000 each and if so, what are the results?

Thanks,
Justin

Hi Vic,

Congratulations on your new exciting career for yourself.

Thank you for your hard work on trying to get June's goals reached.

I was wondering if you could post the Beta software because I want to work with it?

Thank you,
Justin