I agree it is interesting, but it requires a great deal of work. It is one of my "to do" projects .

At the present time I have put on hold all projects including pi.

I am going to the casino's more often now using parameters based on the probability "process".
It will become a full time job. Will keep posting here from time to time.

0 wheel which is in most casino's here in the UK

Quote from: Albalaha on September 18, 2017, 06:05:31 AM
Bayes has been one of the most intelligent and rational guy arounds forum and I have heard lesser irrational things from him than anybody else. What he is suggesting is to put 3 units as 1 on the coldest doublestreet, 1 on hottest doublestreet and 1 on average. There are lots of trouble deciding them. At times, there will be two hottest or coldest or average doublestreets together. So, it is easier said than done. There can be cleaner parameters like farthest hitting  line, the latest hitting line and one in the median leaving the last line i.e. 3rd in nearness. That can be played with decisive pick.
                                    All these won't seriously help in any manner, in my humble opinion. I have worked on these for pretty long time and found that no way of picking bet is superior by itself than all others. It is impossible. Hence, although it could be interesting to pick three doublestreets instead of RED, it won't matter in short or long run and it can not reduce variance by even an iota. Trying to find a better bet in a purely random game is a joke. We better make strategies to survive the worst cases(whenever they come in our bet) and how to win if there are average wins after a horrible drag.

Looking at the complex mathematics, that Bayes has produced on this forum, together with being directed
to even more complex mathematics, it appears he is a very competent mathematician. If I was a maths
student, I would of course be thrilled. I don't see how it helps a roulette player.

Any suggestion using hot & cold double streets (presumably lines) or any hot, cold numbers is a non
starter. I mentioned on a previous occasion, the casino's are only too happy to provide such info on
their indicator boards and they would not do that, if they thought it would give a player an advantage.

It is a pity that mathematicians don't spend some of their time on random numbers, rather than for
example their latest amazing discoveries, that there are two types of infinities !!

Anyone who has bet on sleepers ( 3 x 37 = 111 spins is "officially" a sleeper), will be often aware
that irritatingly, the ball will land often either side of a sleeping number, say 1 & 16 the sleeper being 33.

A possible interesting research may be to examine random.org sleepers, this may point to some
differences, such as the above and when a sleeper appears.

Please note the random numbers at random.org and say an actual roulette wheel produce completely
different results. I have worked on random numbers for a great many years and I am currently looking
at the results for sets, when using random.org random numbers. It is interesting to discover the differences
and try to discover why there should be such a difference.

Quote from: 8OR9 on September 09, 2017, 01:07:50 PM
1. What does the "D" mean next to the spin when it was up 73 units ?

2. Was the test against a single zero European wheel ?......I don't think this would work against a double zero wheel unless you split a bet between the 0 and 00 to protect yourself from the green monster

3. For all you baccarat fans....here is something to think about.....how about using   9 sets of 4 random Players and Bankers  and using the same method to determine wether to bet Player or Banker.....alternate the sets so that there are either 3 Bankers ands 1 Player or 1 Player and 3 Bankers, and bet the majority                    ( if 3 players  in the set, then bet player.........if 3 bankers in the set, then bet Banker

14 Doubled

Yes single 0 fortunately 00 is rare here in the UK

I know nothing about baccarat, but doubt if 9S of 4N would be of any use other than roulette. As pointed out
in a previous thread, there is a special significance the way the numbers are chosen.

I thought it would be interesting to use random.org integers to see how my 9 x 4 system holds up.
It is supposedly the best True Random Number Generator and used by online games, scientific
applications and for art and music.

I decided to generate 100 numbers and continue to use all of them. Of course at the casino I would
have ended the session at 32 + 60, but this is an experiment to see how the sets perform and
how it compares with the casino results.

1    3  21  29    21  3  21  3  21  3   1   1
5   14 19  34     5   5  34 34  5  19 19| 5  19|  19
6   14 24  30     6   6  30|30 6  30 30| 6  30|  24  14  14  30 14 30
7    9  21  31    31 21  7  21  7  31 21
7   13 23  31    31  7   7  23 31 13 23  13
8   10 24  26     8   8  24  8  26
9   11 25  33    33 11 25| 11 33 11 33  25  33
11 13 27  29    11 27 11 11 29 13 13  27
15 17 27  35    27 15 15 17 27 35

  5
33
  6
11
25  +31
6   +27
20  +23
4   +19
16  +15
30  +11
22
5
31
30
6  +42
30 +73
8  +69
27 +65
21 +61
32 +57
30 +88
11 +84
15 +80
28 +76
28 +72
15 +68
33 +64
32 +60
7  +56
8  +52
20 +48
34 +44
3  +40
21 +36
7  +32
34 +28
5  +24
19 +20
12 +16
32 +12
19 + 8
18
32
5
12 + 4
11    0
6  -  4
19
29 -  8
18 -12
30 -16
3
23
0
24
0 - 20
17 -24
14 + 7
14 +73 D
16 +69
31 +65
21 +61
13 +57
23 +53
0  +49
33 +45
4  +41
20 +37
28 +33
13 +29
0  +25
25 +21
4  +17
8  +13
12 +9
30 +40
33 +36
16 +32
14 +63
4  +59
30 +90
3  +86
26 +82
18 +78
0  +74
27 +70
35 +66
1  +62
19 +58
1  +54

From time to time I will do a few more examples and see how it all plays out.

 8 10 24 26     26   26|   24|   24   10   26   24   24   26   10

+ 102

Total profit +666    Reserve +112

1, 3, 21, 29    1   3   21|  21  1   3   3   29   29   3

+114

Total profit +564   Reserve +112

I think it is important to try and find links with numbers. We know that certain numbers will repeat
having slept for x number of spins and those numbers that are currently sleepers. The remaining
numbers will appear sometime in the 1/37 expectation.

My preference is for sets, as every set will have a selection of the above. If for example the set
3,18, 23,32 has three repeaters and one of the 1/37 it will be ahead of the other sets and result
in a profitable outcome. It will avoid placing bets on sets that have one or more sleepers.

Digit sum 1, 10, 19, 28 etc is a good starting point. I am not into numerology but have an open
mind about it. The digit sum numbers unlock a secret in the numbers, which are placed around
the roulette wheel. If you start at 32 = 1, 15 = 2, 19 = 3 etc . Now if you take the next number
on the wheel it is 4. It is also the first number in the set 4, 12, 26, 28. The next digit sum number
is 13, which you will see is 12. Next is 31 =26, 22 =28.

32 = 1, 23 =17, 5 =19, 14 = 25 the set 1,17,19,25

You can also get anti clockwise sets: 26 =1, 3=2, 35 = 3 etc

3 = 2, 12 = 4, 30 = 22, 21 = 32 the set 2, 4, 22, 32

More results:

-24
-20
+20

Looking at the results so far, it appears that the correct way to view the profit & loss
is to say that 100+ is the actual profit, so the total would be +450.

Below 100 if you add the + results minus the losses = +112. This amount and any
future sums, should be kept in reserve to cover any future losses.

It therefore requires patience to get the +100 results, which can be built on, as
long term profits and the reserve amounts to cover losses.

correction ;:

+   10       +433
+ 124       +557


Further results:

-    17       +540
+     2       +542
+ 101        +643
-    14        +629
-    52        +577
+   10        +587

An idea occurred to me (it happens sometimes!!) supposing I select only those sets that are in the lead
more often than the other sets. This produces the following sets :

  1  3  21  29
  5 14 19  34
  6 14 24  30
  7  9  21  31
  7 13 23  31
  8 10 24  26
  9 11 25  33
11 13 27  29
15 17 27  35

The numbers that have been left out are 2, 4, 12, 16, 18, 20, 22, 28, 32, 36

The early results look promising number of chips :

+ 121
+  95      +216
-   19      +197
+104      +301
+  24      +325
+  97      +422
+  10      +432
+124      +556

So far I have taken a break even result to be + or - 10
A fair profit 11 to 50
A good profit 51 to 90
An excellent profit 91+
A small loss 11 to 30
A bad loss 31 to 70

I have explained in previous threads how to proceed when using the sets. It is important to place
bets on a leading set and if using this system, to only bet actual money having completed a few
sessions.

I have spent sometime on this and realised 18 sets is too complicated, so I have decided to use
the 9 sets instead. I have thought of an improvement and will try it on the 9 set topic.