Does anyone in the group know of any programmer for dgt strategies? For the roulette xtreme program. I need to do some tweaking on 2 strategies, and I would like some programmer's service.
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Show posts MenuQuote from: HarryJ on November 02, 2013, 05:53:41 PM Heck you guys are picky, it's all a matter of semantics or nomenclature. 1] A full marty is 1-2-4-8-16 etc doubling at each step. However it is common to tweak a marty to reduce the doubling effect. A progression remains a marty if it ends after a single win. Even if the result is breakeven or a small loss. By this definition 1-1-2-4 is a marty, as is 1-2-3-5. the sacrifice is well worth the saving in bankroll along the way!! 2] I am betting EC's made up of 3 lines. This is a single bet so each unit is divided into 3 and 1/3 is placed on each line. You can say that I am betting 3 units, but it is easier to calculate if you just specify the amount bet on each line. The important thing is 3 lines are bet each time. never 2 or 4. So wins and loses are always 3 times the amount specified.3] The 2/1 effect is acheived in the slight rise in the flat bet series. Eg. Even ignoring any virtual bets that may form the trigger. After the 1st 3 bets have lost, the 3/9w 3/6w series cancels the loss with 2 wins. If 3/9 and 3/12 lose 4/16w 4/12w 4/8w will cancel 5 loses with 3 wins. I know it's not quite 2/1, but it's a lot better than 1/1. The point is that almost 90% of the time you will not need the recovery tecnique. When you do, just tough it out in the knowledge you're not going to break the bank. You can handle a variation of 18 points with 100 units(oops sorry 300 units). You will need 10 wins. Very acheivable. Keep well Harry
Quote from: HarryJ on November 01, 2013, 06:47:22 PM
hi BrenoGarcia,
The 1st 3 bets are a martingale, any win = EOS. Total cost if lost 6 units. I normally look for a new target.
Bet 4] is a flat bet series. Bet 3 units(cost 6+3 = 9). If this wins, pick up 6 units leaving a balance of 3. A 2nd bet of 3 units is made giving a total of 6. If this wins the line is clear. If this 2nd bet loses another 3 unit bet is made bringing the cost back to 9. If this bet is lost, the total loss is now 9 and we move to bet 5]
5] Bet 3 total cost 12. Another flat bet series starts, continue to bet 3 units until the line is clear or 12 units have been lost. Then move to Bet 6].
6] 4 total cost 16 (12+4). Once again a series of flat bets of 4 units is played until the line is clear or 16 units have been lost. I normally look for a new target after each 3 step stage, but you can move straight to bet 7]
7] 4/20 eg bet 4 units total cost 20. Once again a flat bet series continues until the line is clear or the total loss is 20.
8] 5/25, Same technique.
9] 5/30 same technique.
If this 3 step stage is lost, bet 10] starts 6/36. If you count the number of loses required to reach each stage you will see that the number of wins required to clear the line is approximately 1/2. Win/lose sequences within the stages will eventually erode the 2/1 ratio. This is why once the bet reaches stage 4 (10] 6/36) I start looking for a chance to abort, even if it means taking a small loss.
I don't know how to explain it clearer than this. Only bets 1 and 2 in the 1st martingale stage win. The rest of the bets are part of a recovery technique designed to clear the line with a minimum of risk, yet give a 2/1 advantage.
Regards Harry
Quote from: HarryJ on September 27, 2013, 05:59:36 PM
Hi Everyone,
My apologies I have not had much time in the last couple of days. I did write a long reply but it seems to have gone missing.
My method is completely different to Turners. I bet each of the 20 EC possibilities separately, not in oppossing pairs. I bet in 40 spin sessions. The 1st 3 or 4 spins are are to track the flow of the wheel and reset my count. I then bet every spin after assessing whether the wheel will repeat the last 3 'lines to show, or the 3 that did not show.
@ Biagle,
I use use a number of progressions, but all are short. There is no point in chasing more than a few spins. I tend to rely on the 1st and sometimes the 2nd bet to show a profit the others merely break even or recover part of the initial loss. I regard any LOSS that is less than that produced by a flat bet series is a WIN. EG With a series 1-1-2-3-5-9, a win at bet 5 would show a LOSS of 2u. A flat bet series 1-1-1-1-1 would show a LOSS of 3u. Therefor if the session variance is small this is a possitive result.
While the loss of a full progression involves a large loss, the 1st bet should win better than 47% of the time. the 2nd & 3rd bets break even. that's 85% of all bets. Also if the 3 or 4 tracking spins are considered, the percentages are much better than that. I usually play this type of progression if I only expect to spend a short time at the table.
With more time available a stepped progression works well.
1] 1
2] 2
3] 3
This is a martingale series any win = EOS
4] 3 Total cost 9
5] 3 Total cost 12
6] 4 Total cost 16
This is a recovery series. Each step becomes a flat bet until the line is clear, or the bet is lost. EG 3/9 is lost, bet 3/12 lost, bet 4/16 win, bet 4/12 win, bet 4/8 win = EOS.
Note 5 losses have been cancelled by 3 wins.
7] 4/20
8] 5/26 The same technique is used. Each bet becomes flat until it is lost.
9] 5/30 Each win will cancel approx 2 losses.
10] 6/36
11] 6/42 Same technique.
12] 7/49
13] 7/56
14] 8/64
15] 8/72
16] 9/81
17] 9/90 This series can be carried on 'ad infinitum' I have never reached
18] 10/100 this level as I start looking for a way to abort when the bet reaches 5. With a few wins along the way, the 2/1 advantage is being lost. It's better to take a small loss and get back to the proftable 1st step.
Hope this helps,
Regards Harry
Quote from: Turner on October 31, 2013, 04:17:24 PM
Breno.. .if you mean what Im doing....I don't think its possible to code.....Im not always sure what or which to bet..or leave it etc. it's a bit gut feeling at times
Quote from: ignatus on October 14, 2013, 11:33:26 AM
Static bets are Doublestreets 4/9, 16/21, 28/33.
+1 negative progression. Only time progression reset is when reach a new high.
EC too Easy!
Quote from: Dragoner on August 20, 2013, 01:12:21 PM
I disagree.
Trading is neither better nor worse than simple betting. It is just different. Someone prefers it, others don't.
And why couldn't we trade in the handicap market?
Handicap betting is where we give an advantage to one team and a disadvantage to the other.
You add the number to the final score and that modified result is used to evaluate whether you win or not.
For example you bet on a team with -1.5 handicap. Your team wins 1-0, you still lose, because with the modifier your team lost. Your team has to win by at least 2 goals for you to win.
The .5 handicap is the easiest to evaluate, because there is no possibility of draw. If you have whole numbers, then the draw gives your stake back. For example if you bet on a team with -1 handicap and the team wins 1-0, your bet is evaluated as draw, and you get your stake back.
There are even more options in between these. It is either shown as "1/4";"3/4", or ".25";".75". These are essentially 2 bets in one. If you bet on a team with -1.25, that means half of the money is on -1, the other half is on -1.5. Some places show these as "-1 & -1.5".
In my examples you see negative numbers, that means our team gets a disadvantage. If you get a positive number that gives your team an advantage. For example you bet on a team with +1.5 and your team loses 0-1, your bet still wins. The weaker teams get the advantage the stronger the disadvantage.