You don't have to be British to see the British sense of humor, To me it was obvious what he said and where he was coming from.

Quote from: TwoCatSam on December 21, 2013, 07:11:26 PM
Ah, yes!  I can see it now.  2014  The year we found the CPB and Obama went back to Kenya!

Merry Christmas to all.

Samster

Thanks to esoito we have a realistic name:  The Consistently Profitable Bet.  No more Holy Scrollys for me!

Not in your wildest dreams Sam, I mean the Obama part, no such luck.

Merry Christmas and a prosperous new year to all.

Does anyone know for sure if BV excepts players from the US
I read their terms and conditions but it is not exactly clear as to whether they will accept a US player.

Thanks

Bally

The link is not working properly at least not for me, maybe it's my problem I don't know.

But I did find the website thanks a lot.


[Link is now fixed.  Esoito]

Quote from: Bally6354 on December 07, 2013, 03:03:10 PM
Roulette Player

It's possible that Stetson might be 'brown bread' by now! 

I reckon that PDF must be around 20 years old at least.

I tried to attatch a copy but it's not having it.

Shoot me a PM if you would like a copy. But basically it is just to continually raise 1 unit on a win or loss and reset back to 1 unit when you are in front.

Thinking about it sensibly....It can't be right betting sometimes 50%+ of your bankroll on the one decision.


cheers

Thanks Stetson
No need to send me a copy I got the picture, personally I don't believe in negative progression I never use it.
But I am open minded and will look at anything.
I have been playing roulette for over 40 years.

Quote from: Bally6354 on December 06, 2013, 06:48:54 PM
Just messing around with RX and thought I would test this progression with DBL (decision before last) on the E/C's.

The progression itself is simple....+1 on a win or loss until you reach a new high.

It always seems to go well when I give it a quick blast.

The danger with DBL would be a string of 'terrible two's' alternating.

This quick test did reach a 20 unit bet once! It needs a decent B/R and a strong constitution!

cheers

Stetson
Could you please elaborate on your progression, I understand up 1 win or lose but, what do you do when you reach the new high? Do you start over again at 1?

Thanks

Quote from: Bally6354 on December 07, 2013, 11:11:01 AM
Roulette Player

Considering it was a rough set of spins for DBL...your idea did not hold up too bad.

There were very few chances to bet 2 units in the second half of the game.

cheers

Bally
Thanks for the feedback.

Bally, please do me a favor if you can , I don't know how flexible your software is to set up a different progression, but if you can try this progression, also if you can try  running it with the same two sessions that you played previously the same way you played them.

Only after you win your first 1 unit bet your next bet would be a 2 unit bet (win or lose) your next bet would be 1 unit ,keep betting 12,12,12, (win or lose) .

  When you lose two bets in a row ( 1,2 or 2,1) you start flat betting with 1 unit till you win, after a 1 unit win go back  to the 1,2 progression.
You never make a 3 unit bet.
Never make a 2 unit bet if your score is -2 or more, flat bet till you get your score up to at least a 0 or -1.

I would be very curious to know how this works for you by the way if your program cannot handle this you might want to try doing it manually.
Give it a try, once again I think you might be surprised at the results.

Roulette Player

You're welcome
I know what you mean when the terrible twos creep up on you, the trick is to learn how to recognize when they are starting to come and then use them to your advantage.

Just a suggestion, when you start seeing the terrible two's start betting opposite decision before last, even if there is a three in a row now and then between the terrible two's,
just keep betting opposite decision before last tell you lose 2 in a row, at which time you would be looking at a four in a row,
then reevaluate what you are seeing, maybe back to decision before last, it all depends on what the session has been doing overall.
Give it a try might be surprised.

Amen

IMHO, there will never be a Holy Grail, players have been looking for it for hundreds of years.

Also in my humble opinion when playing Baccarat mechanical systems don't work, except occasionally when the shoe happens to do what your system is doing, and that don't happen very often or for very long within the shoe.

You can't expect the shoe to follow your system, you need to follow the shoe and do what the shoe is telling you.

BTW, the same would apply to roulette when only playing EC.

Roulette Player

In order to help clear things up a little look at it this way.

Let's say you are tracking red and black on your scorecard, (I am assuming that most players are using a scorecard when they play)

You would keep score on the red and black the same as you would for player and banker in baccarat.
Red would be the Player and black would be Banker on your scorecard.

This would also apply if you are tracking odd/ even or Hi/ Lo

You would play what you see on your scorecard the same exact way you would play if you were playing baccarat, with what ever system or method you use to play baccarat.

Quote from: Carlitos on November 25, 2013, 07:57:00 PM
Roulette Player, nice to have you here on this forum.
With 40 years of experience in roulette and 10 in Baccarat it is good to have such an experience player around.


With 2,2,2 runs you mean, 2 reds, 2highs etc....??

No not at all, when you are playing even money bets only play one of the three don't intertwine them.
Buy 2,2,2 runs and mean RR,BB,RR BB, this is a run of twos when playing red / black
The same would apply if playing Hi Lo =HH,LL,HH,LL or odd/ even = OO,EE,OO,EE

Quote from:  Carlos
12, 12 loop progression??

First never make a two unit bet until you win a one Unit bet.
After you win one unit start your Prog with 2 unit bet then a 1 unit bet ,then keep going 2,1,2,1, ect. tell you lose two in a row.
You never make a 3 unit bet.
When you lose two bets iar you start flat betting with 1 unit till you win the 1 unit bet, then back to the 21 Prog.
Never make a 2 unit bet if your score is -2 or more, flat bet till you get your score up to at least a 0 or -1.
If you lose 3 bets iar stop and wait till you have 1 or 2 paper wins or you see a good signal to start betting again.
If you lose 2 bets after getting back in it is probably time to quit the shoe/session and find another table..

I very seldom lose more then 4 or 5 units in a shoe, that is my stop loss.

Note: if the shoe is exceptionally good and your score is high you could increase your Prog to a 23.

I hope this helps to clear it up for you if not let me know.

Hi All
I have been an avid Roulette player for 40 years; except for the last 10 years 90% of my playing has been baccarat and doing quite well with it.
About a year ago I started to experiment and test my method of playing Baccarat with Roulette.
To date I have tested over 200 live casino roulette sessions (a roulette session is approximately 65-70 spins)
In MHO there is a very strong comparison between Baccarat an Roulette as long as you compare apples with apples.
For comparison I only play the even money bets, and only on a single zero wheel, and it does not matter whether you compare the high / low, odd / even or red / black on Roulette, to banker / player on Baccarat. Both games are random.
If I was to send you 50 Baccarat scorecards and 50 Roulette scorecards without indicating which is which you would not be able to tell me which is which.

But with that said looking at the big picture I have found that roulette has more and longer straight runs and the same for ZZ runs.
I have also found that roulette produces more 2,2,2,runs with an occasional 3 in-between also a good run to exploit.

Furthermore I have noticed that Roulette tends to have a strong side more often then Baccarat.
I know some of you will say that the zero will hurt you and bite you in the butt, this is not totally true.
I have had as many as three sessions back to back without ever seeing the zero, on the other hand I have had sessions where zero was the hot number, if you are an experienced player you can sense when the zero is getting hot, that is when it is time quit the session and find another table.

On average and for the most part I find that the zero is almost the same as paying commission on Baccarat.
I have no explanation as to why this is, except perhaps Roulette is more random ??.
As for a progression I strongly do not believe in a negative progression, nor do I believe in flat betting, I use a 12,12 loop progression, if I lose two bets in a row I start with a one unit bet till I win then back to the 12 loop Prog.

I never make a three unit bet except if the session is doing exceptionally well and I have a good score I will go to a 23, 23 loop Prog. Roulette Player