As Asym said; "Yep, after all at baccarat each bet wagered will get either a tremendously wrong or an astoundingly good result. Sometimes a hand won't be resolved (tie) and it's not a coincidence this situation happens way more often whenever six cards are utilized to form a final hand."

Please see my play and notes from the other night.

https://betselection.cc/baccarat-forum/session-from-heaven/msg72591/?topicseen#msg72591

Again, my Chiefs covered the -1.5 and I love it!

Badda Boom, Badda Bing once again! Lol.  $4K today.

So, this is sports betting huh? 

Safe to say here at the 3:00 min mark left in the 4th.

Badda Boom, Badda Bing!  Done Deal.

+ $2k for sitting watching a game, lol.

Well I normally do not do it. And it's been quite a long time since I wagered sports. And in addition, my four favorite NFL teams include the Kansas City Chiefs and the Philadelphia Eagles. Against my better judgment to wager favorites as a fan.

So with that said and taking into consideration a fantastic Bac win last night, which I'm going to outline in a new thread titled, "The Session From Heaven" in the Baccarat Forum here in just a bit.

Chiefs & Bills spread, took the Chiefs @ -1.5 for $2k

Eagles & Commanders spread, took the Eagles @ -6 for $2k.

Like I said they are my favorite teams but I'm not betting because of just that.  And again like I said, it's kind of against my better judgment but I'm doing it.

I do not talk deducing down by theory and what should be.  I talk from experience.  Been there and done it.  Lost.  Won.  Gave back winnings.  Chased winnings gave back and lost additional.  Won and held it and eventually gave it all back.  And everything in between.  But, when I finally learned about and defined a solid MMM, I became an advantaged player when compounded with the other things we discuss. 


You said, "Thus we cannot know precisely when key cards will land or privilege one side or the another one, what we can do is just approximating at best the A/B streaks "average" lenght or A/B "average" streaks/singles apparition." 

And that is so true.  But, the player must know how to handle his wagering losing and winning hands during the course of the shoe and session.  And I have written plenty about that.



 

You said, "On average, way more than 75% of total hands dealt are unguessable by any means."

And yes, could be.  Might also be greater than 75%.  But, could be less than 75%, might be far less than 50% in a shoe or so. 

However, most players do not have the tenacity and the stuff hanging to really bang it out hard when something definable is there, being presented and happening, etc.  So, the casino doesn't care and understands what will happen with the common type of bac players 99-99.9% of the time.  They will lose, or win and give it back or win and leave and never reset, return and then give it all back and attempt to recoup with additional and repetitive buy-ins. 

KFB, as I said, "IMO winning right away or losing right away are both extremely dangerous to one's play and thought process.  Reality is powerful and blinding. You have to push yourself down a path to perform under extreme stressful situations for periods of time. Somehow you have to remove yourself from the stress, but physically remain there performing.  Not easy as so many pretend it is."

Normally for my winning MMM, and this one was certainly one of them, I would have put away the buy-in and applied my 1/3rd-1/3rd-1/3rd application.  But I didn't.  Just walked because of what I explained. 

It's just too easy to get caught up in a win, then if a loss comes, the frustration sets in and the chase to recoup what was mine follows. 

The other night my friend and I sat down at a brand new shoe just starting. In fact he cut the deck and it was in the range of the cards that we like, which was between a 3-6. 

This was a 5-Treasures layout on a midi (Macau style) table.  We tend to lean a bit towards the Bankers side most times but not set in stone.  Anyways we went to the casino to play possibly 2 or 3 shoes, so figure on 5-7 hours depending on problems and drawn out hands, etc.  So we both buy-in and get set. 

First hand we both wagered Bankers and F7 ($50) and 777s ($25).  Players returned an 8/A and Bankers returned a 7/2.  We both stayed the same and replaced the $75 that was swiped away after the tie. 

Second hand Players returned a 3/9  and Bankers had a Face/10.  Players flopped a 5 and our side flopped a 7 for a beautiful 200:1 3-card 7 both sides tie on the 777s wager.  After the payout and the celebratory actions, we both looked at each other and simply nodded our heads.  A bit larger on the Bankers base bet and the same on the F7 and the 777s wagering.  Most others, if they were on the 777s, actually did not wager again on it, with the exception of a lady seated next to us. 

Third hand Players returned a Blackjack A/10 and the Bankers had a 4/Face.  Players pulled and flopped a 6 card.  I looked at my buddy and told him (as I do you guys and even posted actually pics on here, of the table with the F7 being formed by its third card a 6) of that happening.  Well here is where it gets down and dirty.  The dealer, a super cute young Asian lady pulls the 3rd card from the shoe and is about to slide it to the highest wagering person on the Bankers side, but stalls with a few of her fingernails on the edge of it and says, "if you guys really want a 3, let me flip it".  We all look at each other like it's going to matter and one of us says, "at least if we do, we can blame her for not getting it". 

Pit supervisor comes over and says to the dealer, "are you trying to convince the people you have some kind of magical powers again?"  Well we told her okay.  She doesn't flip it right away, but she picks it up so the back is towards us.  She shakes her head no and slowly and I mean slowly flops it over.  It was a 3.  OMG, High-5s and loud acknowledgements occurred.  Beautiful and almost unprecedented by us back-to-back with the 777s 200:1 wagers. 

We both got up, colored up and planned to cash out and leave after just the 3 hands.  Not our best or greatest win, but probably one of our quickest.  Possibly could have won 20 Xs the amount and as well, could have been blind sided by the ease of it and lost it all and chased what we gave back and then donated our buy-in. 

IMO winning right away or losing right away are both extremely dangerous to one's play and thought process.  Reality is powerful and blinding. You have to push yourself down a path to perform under extreme stressful situations for periods of time. Somehow you have to remove yourself from the stress, but physically remain there performing.  Not easy as so many pretend it is.

Finding a deep sense of meaning with the game that is not totally dependent upon winning. Because you cannot win all the time. And it took me a long stretch of playing the game to learn that.

Winning comes, and when it does you must be able to pour it on, hit it extremely hard and take advantage. But doing so from an outside view looking in, instead of from the player's view of waiting for something special to happen, will allow you great advantage and clarity.  Looking 'in' so to say, will allow you to hopefully not get lost by winning. Getting lost in winning or losing, tends the highest majority of all times to drag you down and make you lose your clarity. And clarity is an advantage in this game.

So what was it like? I will tell you what it was like. It was ecstasy with fresh homemade ice cream, topped with luscious whipped cream and fresh cherries. It was carte blanche to go, fast, quick and without any frustration or thought whatsoever.

But I have respect for the game that is so darn volatile. We went out to eat afterwards and not at the property's steakhouse which we could've easily been comped for. We went off property, out of the casino-out of the realm of the action with possible additional wins and as well where the usual losses are occurring and reoccurring.

At the off property restaurant, where we pay out of pocket of course, we ate and told our stories. We laughed and enjoyed ourselves. And let me tell you something, there was no pressure to drive back a few miles to attempt greater wins at the casino. We were done for the session.  And we rehashed about rebooting and forgetting about those wagers, at least repetitively trying for them in the future. 

Not that I am right or wrong or any of you are in our casino plays. But, as the sage say, "hope comes in many forms".  Looking back now a few days later, our unplanned dinner out with the unpretentious discussion about the few hands we played, actually in total was many fold the time of the session itself, comical and rare but such a memory and always will be.

I am going to borrow a line from someone that I admire. "Relax, sit down and serve yourself up a taste of life".

Click on the following link to read the initial official press release from the US Attorney's Office.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdmi/pr/2024_0307_arrest_casino_heist

Click on the following link to read the guilty conviction of the case.

https://apnews.com/article/michigan-casino-theft-conviction-8ca602f79391bd321d6a960e0b78ae09

In response to everyone reference online gambling sources. 

I have touched on it briefly in the past and will not go in great detail about it.  BUT, be extremely careful and extremely leery of all online gaming sources.

I say this because of my forum experience with those previous clickable banners I had on BetSelection.cc a couple of years ago.  They are deceitful, dishonest and immoral.  Period.  They cheated and lied to me and IMO they will and do, in their normal course of business to their players around the world.

I cannot go in detail because I signed 'Do Not Disclose' agreements with them.  But I can and will say, they did not pay the commissions and bonuses earned by BetSelection.cc as agreed upon. 

And believe me pal, if they did, I would not have 86ed them!!  Why would I?  Easy peasy money, lol.  But as I said, they engage in deceitful and immoral business practices as standard operating protocol.

And I will not promote that to my members.  Other forums will, I will not!  Period.

Absolutely adore the sky on fire!  Just about as much as being huge on the Bankers side after the Players slap down a Natural 8 and the Bankers having a Natural 9.

Here are 2 from last night.

"...3) More hands are wagered and less precise will be the winning targets as most of the times anything can happen anytime.  ..."

However, if you do not wager, you cannot win.  Of course you cannot lose as well.  A vicious Catch-22 big time.

I have seen people continuously wager for the same triggers and continuously lose and then those same people continuously win.  Likewise I have seen people not wager and talk about each hand while waiting out-would have won continuously.  Then when they attempt to jump in and wager, they can't win anything. 

IMO, of course.

For those of you unfamiliar, here it is.  And, I will guarantee you she is not the last devious and questionable person to enter or maintain presence in the crypto market.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruja_Ignatova

In July 2022 Ruja Ignatova, the self-styled 'Cryptoqueen' behind a pyramid scheme called OneCoin, was placed on the FBI's Top 10 Most Wanted list. Accused of defrauding investors of an amount estimated at between $3.6 to 4.5 billion, the Bulgarian-born Ignatova disappeared in 2017. In June last year came a new development: The FBI increased the existing reward of $250,000 to a whopping $5 million for any information that leads to her arrest.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fbi-put-5-million-bounty-225502163.html

The Official FBI 10 Most Wanted Info:

On October 12, 2017, Ignatova was charged in the United States District Court, Southern District of New York and a federal warrant was issued for her arrest.  On February 6, 2018, a superseding indictment was issued charging Ignatova with one count each of Conspiracy to Commit Wire Fraud; Wire Fraud; Conspiracy to Commit Money Laundering; Conspiracy to Commit Securities Fraud; and Securities Fraud.

https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/ruja-ignatova

Here is a shoe with all 1s and 2s except for the opening 4iar banker and two more bankers with 3iar each.  Although not rare occurrences, happens quite often. 

This is a pic at hand 61, if I remember correctly it finished about the same with P/B 1s and 2s and a 3iar and 4iar tie hands.

Yes, 1s and 2s come and seem prevalent, however they seem comfortable being nestled between longer streaking and clumping.  You can't be a 1s and 2s player when the streaking and clumping starts and be able to make money.  As well, you can't be a streaking and clumping player when the 1s and 2s are occurring.  All IMO and experience anyways.  See second and third pictures.

These are real shoes in a B&M casino.  Remember that about actual, non armchair quarterbacking decision making and frame of mind influences.  Same as attorneys.  Paper law is very different than courtroom trial law played out.

Well guys, 2025 is getting closer and giving it much thought!

Lots of plans, goals and desires.

I am in the midst of putting together 2 very large improvements and additions to this forum.  Won't be long before they come to surface and implemented.

I truly hope all of you are looking forward to 2025 and are in good health and spirits!

Everyone hang in there and be the best you can be!

Thanks and Stay Well!
Alrelax
Forum Administrator & Owner