Quote from: sqzbox on March 09, 2016, 07:39:47 AM
I'd like to know what other people think because I don't think this question makes any sense. 

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Thanks for replys. I apologise for thepoor wording and explanation.
What I am actually interested in is finding out what is the average number of spins that a new street occurs in a 12 spin cycle.
For example:
1st spin: new street hits
2nd spin: new street hits
3rd spin: new street hits
4th spin: repeat street hits
5th spin: new street hits
6th spin: repeat street hits
7th spin: repeat street hits
8th spin: new street hits
9th spin: new street hits
10th spin: new street hits
11th spin: repeat street hits
12th spin: new street hits

Average spins for new street to hit in example 4.166 spins

Im assuming they will average out to hit on roughly 6th spin but would not be suprised if it was a little earlier

If i am tracking all 12 streets in cyclesof 12 spins, what is the average spin number that a steet will hit on?

Quote from: Rouletta on June 29, 2013, 08:01:02 PM
ND

Yes thank you, it is one of the best system I have played together with
Action 22 numbers that u have put on the forum. Again thanks for sharing.

Cheers

R

Where can I read up on this strategy?

Quote from: Nickmsi on February 09, 2015, 04:56:38 PM
1,921 unit Profit in 100,00 spins, about 2,000 placed bets.

Here's one example of how to use Gaps in EC betting.

I set the EC Gap  Sheet to the following settings:

Target Gap Size = 7 Gaps  (1st Trigger)

Betting Gap Size = 2 Gaps (2nd Trigger)

Maximum # Spins to bet = 2

Profit Target = 1

Stop Loss (-) = -1000

This means if you get any of the following you have a gap of 7:
RRRRRRR
BBBBBBB
EEEEEEE
OOOOOOO
HHHHHHH
LLLLLLL
Then, after this trigger you wait until you have  a 2 gap, then bet the opposite for 1 or 2 spins.

For example, if you get a gap of 7 Blacks which would be RRRRRRR, then after the next gap of 2 Blacks(RR) you would then bet Black for 1 spin and if won, end of session.  If lost, double the bet and on a Win end session or if lost, then continue to look for next 2 gap.  Progression continues to increase with each new 2 gap so be careful as a RFH can always rear its ugly head.

Cheers

Nick

Hi Nick,
I think would be worth while tracking as many different 7 streaks as possible- such as brrrrrr, rbrrrrr, rrbrrrr and so on to give yourself more opportunities to bet, especially if using a bot.
Have you tested with a lower stop loss? Such as 50-100 units?

Along the same lines as my original post- I am interested to hear of the many weird and wonderful bet selections that people track??

Quote from: XXVV on January 06, 2016, 06:54:49 AM
Matt it is great you are looking into this and I think were was some fascinating work done 5-7 years ago by several writers on the forums. But ask yourself the question, what is the advantage of doing this. Why should this bet work? In other words what is the reason, the circumstances that would make this bet work, under what conditions?

The great English professional casino player Louis G Holloway used his skills to research, test and successfully win regularly using this approach in roulette. Suggest you research his writings, his guides, his hints and others who followed. It is covered a little in my early Blog notes, but I never played this way and always found it too slippery - I was just looking in the wrong place because there are answers to be found. I sense that the real answers lie in extensions with all outside table bets but in situations or conditions where there is imbalance to be taken care of, and of course everyone will tell you to be wary of Gambler's Fallacy. I like dancing on the edge of this. Ignore the negatives you will encounter.

Refer to LGH book published through the eccentric but brilliant baccarat player Lyle Stuart ( he won several tournaments) 1969 in New York. As always, to be really successful at anything you need to put in the effort. 10,000 hours is the usual professional threshold of dedication.

Thankyou XXVV
I will read up on what was researched on the subject.
I have other strategies that I currently prefer but can see alot of merit with some of the ideas mentioned. Definately worth investigating further.

Quote from: Gizmotron on January 05, 2016, 10:07:45 PM
An easier way could be to download my free practice software designed to work with dozens and columns as well as EC bets.

http://betselection.cc/gizmotron/tracking-software-for-practice-real-play/

Thanks again.
I have done a few hours worth of testing through live shoe results so far but would like to test over a larger number and get an idea of its limitations.
I will take a look at your software when i get home, cheers.

Thanks Gizmodo!
I will see if I can find someone to run the test for me as my computer and coding skills are non existant!

Wondering if anyone has any code written to test double dozens and columns strategies?
I have come across something that appears quite interesting that I would be interested testing with MM.
Both bet selection and MM are quite basic.

Quote from: ozon on January 05, 2016, 03:54:54 PM
You can try, to play so that when a particular ec rolled two times the trigger will be, that it falls the 3rd time. You play so all ec at the same time, it will reduce the variance bad streak of one ec, as a progression you go to a higher level only when you are -3 at this level and  reduce the stakes only when you when you're  +3 at this level.  BR  400 units

What are the extreme drawdowns?
I can imagine it would be quite a stable way of playing.

I was recently reading through some old posts on another site and came across somebody talking about betting 3 ECs (as one bet) with gr8s progression.

Does anyone have any experience with this?

Betting every hand, how often will there be a difference of 10 or more wins/losses at end of shoe?

I have been toying with the idea of playing multiple bet selections together using differential betting.
Example bet selections:
1) Track player/ banker wins and betting on which ever side had won the most hands
2) Track FTL/OTL and bet on what ever side has won the most hands
3) Track singles/ anti singles and bet on what ever side has won the most hands

Say the next hand would require two bets on player and one on banker, i would simply bet 1 unit on player.

Everytime I am up by 2 units I will stop betting until my wins and losses even out before i start betting again.
I have been testing with flat betting and a hit and run type play.

I will test with some various MMs also during week.

Does anyone else play in this manner?