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#1
Ophis' MST / [MST] PB Grids extension request
November 20, 2012, 10:47:39 PM
Would it be possible to increase the amount of lines showing in the grid in Pattern Breaker...from 5 lines deep to 10 lines deep?




You see it is

xxx
xxx
xxx
xxx
xxx

just now? any way to extend that to a 10 lines deep grid? Would it be hard to do?
#2
Off-topic / That Friday feeling?
November 16, 2012, 07:59:31 AM
It's almost the weekend, what are you lot up to then?

I personally am nervous as it is my daughters test in school. In Northern Ireland they have what is called the 11+ test. Where 11 year olds take a test to see what school they will go to after primary school.

She is due to sit that on Saturday morning so nerves all round. Apart from that I'll not be thinking about much else.
#3
Even chance / Subbys Six Steps
November 14, 2012, 10:45:43 PM
Right there are 6 even bets in roulette they are...




We are going to play only these bets.

Step 1 go to http://www.random.org/ change the random generator from 1 and 100 .....down to 1 and 6

Click generate and write the number down

4

then click generate again for your second number

42


then click generate again for your third number...and so on until you have seen all 6 combinations and you have something similar to

4 2 6 1 3 5

If you get a duplicate number then just keep clicking until you get all your six numbers that you need

Looking at the top piccy...write down what the numbers correspond to like so

4 in the pic is BLACK or b
2 is EVEN or e
6 is HIGH or h
1 is LOW or l
3 is RED or r
5 is ODD or o

write them down like so....

b e h l r o

WE ARE BETTING AGAINST THE SAME SEQUENCE FORMING - remember bet against...

right how I've tweaked this bit is like so, using the above line b e h l r o...WAIT UNTIL YOU GET A BLACK NUMBER DRAWN, this is your trigger to bet

Say 33 was the next number out...it matches the BLACK or b of your line. write a b under the b in the line liek so

b e h l r o
b <trigger as it matches the b in the sequence

TAKE THE b (as it is the triggger) AND NOW ADD IT TO THE END OF THE LINE LIKE SO

b e h l r o *b*

Your new sequence looks like this now

b e h l r o b

with the 33 being the number that last hit put the b under the first b in the sequence

b e h l r o b
b  < Now we bet 1 unit AGAINST (e for EVENS)...ie we bet ODD

say a 15 is next number out...it wins and you are +1 unit

scrap the total sequence and go to the random number generator and get another six numbers to make a new sequence and repeat - I'd leave it 10 spins between games if you want...but you don't have to :)

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if a 2 comes out for example then you lose as you were betting ODD and 2 is an EVEN number, then as 2 is an even (e) number...put an e under the (e) in the sequence like so

b e h l r o b
b e  ^<We are now betting 2 units against h so we bet LOW

if for example a 11 comes out, it is LOW and you win.

if for example 29 comes out you have lost and put a h under the (h) in the sequence and move on

b e h l r o b
b e h ^<We are now betting 4 units against l so we bet HIGH

Again if you win great if not, record the type of even bet under the sequence and continue until you reach the final (b)

At this stage if you have a setup looking like...

b e h l r o b   <sequence
b e h l r o b   <betting line

Then that is a lost game and you've spent...1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32 units = 63 units as a loss




***For a "less units needed" bet***

Don't move the trigger to the end, just leave it and have a 5 bet sequence

b e h l r o
^ trigger

b e h l r o
b ^start to bet against here ...against the EVEN (e) bet

this 5 step will be 1, 2, 4, 8, 16 = 31 units


You don't need to worry about the actual numbers spun..just what they represent against your six number sequence you got from RNG.org :)


When your bet is complete that's you done for the day. Log out at +1 unit...OR....

go back to http://www.random.org/ and pick another string of 6 numbers...match them up to the even bets and repeat the steps:)

I think that low level BR's should play the 5 step option with the first in the string as the trigger...and play the other 5 numbers.
#4
General Discussion / admin request
November 09, 2012, 05:31:20 PM
Can we move the money management boards up to between the roulette and baccarrat boards perhaps?

I just feel it's a bit lost down there and it's an integral part of a winning long term strategy to have robust money management system and knowledge of money management.

Yea or Ney?
#5
Mixed / Pattern Breaker money management
November 08, 2012, 08:27:41 PM
If a total loss is 7 units (betting 1, 2, 4 units) and you just suck up any loss and never increase your bet, then your bankroll needs to be 20 times a loss....minimum.

Why 20 you may ask?

It's to do with the "fear/panic factor" when we take a loss.

Say you have a bankroll of £100 (I'm using GPB £'s as I'm from the UK) say you have that 100 bankroll and you were playing £5 units, due to the fact you didn't really know much about money management techniques. Your 3 bets would be £5, £10, £20 - That's a loss of £35 which against a £100 bankroll is over a third. If you lose a third of your bankroll then the fear can creep into your mindset and make you try to recoup some of it back fast...You've just lost a third of your bankroll, that's a scary thought and one that catches MANY people out and makes them chase a quick recovery. We all know that this can be fatal to your remaining bankroll. NEVER CHASE - PATIENCE WINS....NOT RASH "FAST RECOVERY" BETS

BUT...and here is where the "20 times" bankroll mindset comes in...When you take a loss of £35 but your bankroll is in excess of £700, well, that's a SERIOUSLY less fearful loss when you look at your bankroll 1/20th which is mentally a LOT easier to take and even walk away with a "Oooh nice one random, you got me there but I@ll get you the next time"...perhaps with a wry smile from you too :)

This is just my money management suggestion for pattern breaker -

ASSUMING £1 is 1unit

Ideally you need a BR to be at as a MINIMUM-
£140 to bet £1 units
£280 ...........£2 units
£420 ...........£3 units
£560............£4 units
£700............£5 units

I'd suggest that, ON AVERAGE, you stick with £5 units as you only need to play 2-4 games a day to take out a nice amount of money at the end of each month for life's nicer things (holiday, presents for kids etc) You can of course ignore this and go ahead and bet your comfort unit size.

£840 ...........£6 units
£980............£7 units
£1120..........£8 units
£1260..........£9 units
£1400..........£10 units

I'd also suggest that you reach the next bankroll mark before betting the corresponding unit size. By that I mean this

Wait until your bankroll is £280 BEFORE MOVING UP TO £2 UNITS...i.e. stay at £1 units until your BR is £280 ONLY THEN move up to using £2 units and so on....wait until your BR is at £420 BEFORE MOVING FROM £2 UP TO £3 UNITS

If you have a substantial BR like £3,500

You can then look at really serious money making by using units worth £25 betting sequence would be something like £25, £50, £100.

With a bankroll that size you can perhaps afford to cover the green Zero on the last bet with perhaps a £5 on green zero as insurance...each to their own on that green zero bet though. I cover green on my last bet as I@ve hit it so many times on a final bet.

Remember to keep your BR in your own savings account though and not all in a casino account :) Let the interest grow it as well as your game play winnings  :thumbsup:

If you have a bankroll of 100 units and you lose 7 (1 total loss for pattern Breaker) that's not much really of a % loss of your overall bankroll.

Play 6 games in one day and from experience you will get 3 or 4 days of no losses which will let you build your bankroll up when you DO lose...ULTRA MARATHON...not a sprint

---a game is HIGH/LOW
---a game is ODD/EVEN
---a game is RED/BLACK

So if you're tracking all 3 then you only play twice day! If you only play 2 methods ( I personally only play ODD/EVEN and HIGH.LOW as I found RED/BLACK loses more often due to the board layout) then you'll log in 3 times a day for 2 games each time...of course you can play less...the call is yours - JUST REMEMBER TO SET YOURSELF A GOAL AND DON'T TRY TO PLAY TOO MUCH OR BE GREEDY - Ultra marathon remember!!

If you say to yourself...today I'm going in to play 6 games only ...then that EXACTLY what you do. Regardless of if you get six wins in those 6 games or four wins and two loss etc...

Never play more than six games in one day. More often than not you will win all six games and you can go 2 or 3 days or more when you win all six games.

The more you play consistently at one table the more likely that random will find a way to beat you. I know most people don't believe in playing hit and run but I swear by it. I think that there are long periods in a day when things will go your way in numbers spun by the wheel but if you play long hours then you'll be more likely to hit one of the times in the day when numbers will go against you. Just my opinion.

If you play hit and run for six games there is more chance of you playing in the zone when things will go your way. If you play longer then there is more chance that you'll also hit the bad zone when things will go against you...like hitting a triple spun number etc..

Take the LONG outlook view for playing a method...it's a REAL hard grind at the start to get your bankroll up high but if you can do it, the rewards are there for sure.

Say you play 5 games a day (I use 5 as an easier example for number adding purposes as opposed to 6) of PATTERN BREAKER for 30 days...that's 150 games in one month...just as an example ok.

Taking a 10win to 1loss view then you can expect, from that 150 games, something like...

130 wins of 1 unit = 130 units

You'll expect to hit 10-13 losses over that month's worth of 150 games which works out at - 7units x 13losses = 91 units lost - I'LL USE 90 AS AN EVEN FIGURE TO EXPLAIN

130units won - 90 units lost = 40 units profit for the month



40 units @ £1 or €1 doesn't sound much...but if you build on that and do this a number of months so your bankroll lets you play £5 or €5 units....then that 40 units profit each month x £5/€5 = 200 which is a nice earner each month.

...take it one stage further like the poster called Pilot has...where your 1 unit is £50/€50 then multiply that by 40 units profit each month...2,000!!!   That is where you want to be. BUT...and this is the HUGE BUT...it is the patience needed to GET your small bankroll up to a huge level that is the hard part. Playing the system isn't hard, it's the mental ability to stick to a method that seems to be going slowly...only for it to explode after 5-6 months.

Can you do that 5-6 months play to get your BR up? That's the key.

Say you started with £100 bankroll

End of month 1 -

Bankroll is, on average with Pattern Breaker, going to be about £100 plus 40units you win = £140 betting £1 units

End of month 2 -
Bankroll is, on average with Pattern Breaker, going to be about £140 plus 40units you win = £180 betting £1 units

End of month 3 -
Bankroll is, on average with Pattern Breaker, going to be about £180 plus 40units you win = £220 betting £1 units

End of month 4 -
Bankroll is, on average with Pattern Breaker going to be about £220 plus 40units you win = £260 betting £1 units

End of month 5 -
Bankroll is, on average with Pattern Breaker going to be about £260 plus 40units you win = £300 betting £1 units

At this stage...£300 in our BR...we've now gone past the "bankroll needed to move up a unit value" (20 times a total loss) 7 units as a loss x 20 = £140units

I'd also suggest that you reach the next bankroll mark before betting the corresponding unit size. By that I mean this

Wait until your bankroll is £280 BEFORE MOVING UP TO £2 UNITS...i.e. stay at £1 units until your BR is £280 ONLY THEN move up to using £2 units and so on....wait until your BR is at £420 BEFORE MOVING FROM £2 UP TO £3 UNITS


Ideally you need a BR of 140 to bet £1 units
£280 ........................£2 units
£420 ........................£3 units
£560.........................£4 units
£700.........................£5 units


You're at end of month 5 and now with a BR of over 300 it allows you to move the unit value up from £1 up to £2 units


End of month 6 -

Bankroll is, on average with Pattern Breaker, going to be about £300 plus 40 you win(BUT NOW £2 UNITS INSTEAD OF THE £1 unit) = £300 BR plus (40 units won x £2) = £380

End of month 7 -
Bankroll is, on average with Pattern Breaker, going to be about £380 plus 40 you win(BUT NOW £2 UNITS INSTEAD OF THE £1 unit) = £380 BR plus (40 units won x £2) = £460

At this stage you can move up to £3 unit values form the £2 as you've passed the threshold for moving up a unit value while still having 20 times a total loss as your BR

End of month 8 -
Bankroll is, on average with Pattern Breaker, going to be about £460 plus 40 you win(BUT NOW £3 UNITS INSTEAD OF THE £2 unit) = £460 BR plus (40 units won x £3 = 120) = £580 <- new unit value threshold

At this stage you can move up to £4 unit values from the £3 as you've passed the threshold for moving up a unit value while still having 20 times a total loss as your BR

End of month 9 -
Bankroll is, on average with Pattern Breaker, going to be about £580 plus 40 you win(BUT NOW £4 UNITS INSTEAD OF THE £3 unit) = £580  BR plus (40 units won x £4 = 160) = £740

...and so on

***REMEMBER THAT THIS IS AN ULTRA MARATHON - NOT A SPRINT!!!!*** 9 months sounds a LOT and will take a LOT of dedication

You can see not a lot of movement in the unit value for the first 6 months but then it starts to rocket when you have a BR big enough to let you bet higher unit values. It's this 9 month plan that we should all be sticking too  which will let us fleece the casinos for all we can get :thumbsup:

You can accelerate your speed if you place £50 each month into your bankroll as a topup - ONLY DO THIS IF YOU ARE WORKING AND CAN AFFORD TO!!! Remember don't bet with money you need to pay bills and eat!!!  :thumbsup:
#6
General Discussion / Hello
November 06, 2012, 08:35:49 AM
Twister and JohnL told me about this forum and it looks good so far :) Glad to be on board and hope I can share some stuff with you guys  :bye: