Quote from: bbbbbb128 on June 16, 2016, 03:05:47 PM
Hi Nick

what sort of money management will you advise for such stable EC bets?
the W can come in between L or LL

i am thinking using 1-1-1-2-2-4-4-8-8
2 W in a row will result in +1 unit
what do you think?

Chasing for a "double" would be akin to running a Martingale on this particular play.

I've reviewed my last 15 shoes played under VDW/AD and one shoe actually went 15 or so before a "double" hit.  Lots of singles in there, but no double win.  There we also many runs where you would be making that eight level wager albeit winning it, but it's still on the steep side of the wagering curve.

Also for those who may be machine testing this, you may want to run it manually for a few days to "see" what combinations look good.  The "one sided" 147AP is a particularly good wager. 

This VDW, in any variation NEEDS some runs of 3 or more although the runs of singles (ZZ runs) also work well.

If you get to the 9th level, there is no sense in making a wager as either side clears the solution for a win so that would be pointless.  The same goes for a losing 258AP.  Just start over at that point.

This has been working out in live play quite nicely.  I believe part of the success is that it does not wager on every hand but tends to seek out selective patterns to play.  Obviously any 123 type bet jumps out at you but when those lose, then you get to pick at the remaining AP's for one that will fit the expected outcome.   Surprisingly I've found that the single sided 147AP is the MOST productive to date.

Anyway, these are just some things to look for if you've decided to put any time in serious work with this play.

AD

I apologize if this question has been asked previously.

Are these "decisions" only bets placed or are they from a continuous game, meaning you are playing every hand or spin?

AD

Quote from: Babu on June 17, 2016, 10:58:31 PM
What is the requirement for withdraw?  Minimum amount = ?  How many withdraw per month=?  Fees =?  Is it by check or to your bank account?  How long does it take?  I did not see anything about withdraw on the website.

The video delay is worse than 5dimes but of course I usually play at night.

http://www.betphoenix.ag/banking

The last check I got was delivered by FedEx and drawn on a Canadian bank.

That video comes and goes.  One night it's perfect.  The next night, same time, and you can barely recognize the game!

AD

As the above mentioned online casino is currently in discussion in another thread, I would like to ask if anyone here is actually playing there lately.

I have been researching their site and rules but haven't seen any mention of our forum members who play there here on the board.  (with one exception).

So, if anyone has any FIRST HAND information to relay, this would be a good thread for that data.

It doesn't matter if you're a $1 player or a $100 player, just real time, first hand information would be nice.

One just never knows when they might need a back up online casino.

AD (this editor is driving me nuts)

Quote from: Arkra on June 16, 2016, 03:02:09 PM
HI there!

I would recommend my favorite online casino where I make good money. It's http://s--------.com. Enjoy!

Well, should you decide to explain just what makes your online casino so enjoyable, we'll be able to post the name.

Is it live dealer or RNG?   How fast do they pay?  What are their requirements to deposit?

Things like that.

Thanks.

AD

For those of you who are still working and testing this play, here's my shoe from today.

Comments were added during the transcription as the original gets really messy at the desk.

AD

Quote from: Garfield on May 31, 2016, 08:43:02 AM
Okay. I have some questions :

1. In case of B pppp BBBB. We will win @#4,5 and lose @#6,7,8. In other hand if we count the start of B @#4 as 1, we may get 2 W for the last 2 B.

So how do you determine when re-start the count? After a W? Or after LL? Or how? Please do explain

Thank you

Oh btw result of p B p BB pp B p will get 3 L @5,6,8 and 1W @#9

Garfield,

  I think you need to look at how the AP's are selected.

  In your first example, "B pppp BBBB" you win on the 4th hand with a 2-3-4 AP which is your first wager.

  Work it that way and continue on.

  AD

Quote from: Albalaha on March 18, 2013, 03:50:17 AM
Dear Friends,
          I am putting a real session of smartlive casino having 185 spins. for those, who are not familiar with this data, let me tell u that the session starts from lowest right side and progresses right to left and goes upwards.
        Our betselection is static/fixed: we are betting third dozen only. You can see that there are 56 hits of third dozen (25-36). Play it with your favorite Money management and let's see who can do it better.
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For what it's worth and to bring this thread up to date with the current working/testing system as of this date, I ran the VDW play from Nickmsi on this particular set of numbers.

Flat betting 56 Wins.  48 losses with only TWO of the losses coming on a "green"!

Not bad for flat betting.

Long losing streak was 4 (twice but not consecutive) and the longest winning streak was 6.   Obviously any long streak on either side is a winning play.

AD

Quote from: Nickmsi on June 04, 2016, 02:03:29 PM
In live play, though the starting a new session after a win or mutual bet seems the most logical and fastest way to play.

Cheers
Nick

I would tend to agree with this, especially when playing live, online.

AD

You know, with all of the deletions of messages in this thread, nobody will be able to figure out what the heck is going on.  Luckily (or not) for me I can go back and see what's been removed.

Yes, I know the thread "author" has that ability, but reading a one-sided conversation is pointless for the regular members of the forum.

This entire thread may be removed, to be restarted as a new one, if this action continues.

Hey!  I've got an idea.  I SHOULD RESTART THE ALBALAHA SALES THREAD and that way nobody can remove the messages!!

Yeah!  That's the ticket!

AD (Play nice, boys)

Quote from: Trbfla on June 03, 2016, 11:54:07 PM
AD I just got it....lightbulb....the 2-5-8 right.....

You beat me to it!

AD

Quote from: plolp on June 03, 2016, 10:19:15 PM
Thanks for the description A dulay

line 14 you don't bet  because 1 4 7 give B

so  :  -2

Good catch.  Thanks.

AD

OK, in order to show just how this was played, I transcribed my play here with explanations.

The first wager is at hand 4 completing the 2-3-4 AP and restarting the next 9 hands.

Next wager is hand 7 completing the 1-2-3-AP and restarting the next 9 hands.

The 1-2-3 AP loses its wager at hand 10 and the 2-4-6 AP at hand 13.

Hand 14 does complete the set with the 5-6-7 AP and of course the reset of the next 9 hands.

Hand 17 loses the 1-2-3.
Hand 20 wins with the 2-4-6 AP.   Reset the nine.

Hand 24 wins the 2-3-4 AP and a reset.

Hand 28 loses the 2-3-4 wager.
Hand 31 can end the set with either the 1-4-7 on Banker or the 3-5-7 on Player so it is a No Bet Draw AND a reset of the next nine.

Hand 35 wins the 2-3-4 AP and of course the next nine reset.

Hand 38 loses the 1-2-3 AP.
Hand 40 loses the 4-5-6 AP.
Hand 42 wins the 5-6-7 AP and of course a reset.

Hand 45 loses the 1-2-3 AP.
Hand 47 loses the 3-4-5 AP.
Hand 50 is a No Bet Draw due to the 2-5-8 and 4-6-8 both available to win.

No bets on the final two hands while waiting for the next AP to develop.

Hope this explains the play.

AD

Quote from: Albalaha on June 03, 2016, 03:26:42 AM
Horror Session: 7th..   W=45, L=60

OK.  What would you like done with this session?

AD

Quote from: Nickmsi on June 02, 2016, 07:12:13 PM
Hi Plop . .

I ran your numbers through my bot for roulette (1=B, 0=R) and got a -4 result.

Hope this is what you wanted.

Nick

I ran it tonight manually and and finished at -1 flat betting.

Evidently we're not all on the same page with real time play on this yet.

AD (live from the boat while offshore tonight)