Quote from: plolp on June 02, 2016, 06:54:21 PM
@ Big Ez
Can you show how you doing with that?

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Thanks

How did it comes out when you ran it?

I'll run your session tonight when I get back from tonight's short casino run after my match.

AD

For those of you who are working with this method I would REALLY recommend that you take the time to run these test manually so that you can see just how the numbers flow to make the sets complete.

Waiting on Nickmsi to run his bots is great for the overall picture but it doesn't help YOU, the player, to see what is happening in front of you.

For those who have taken the time to work this out hand by hand, you will no doubt see where the problem comes in eventually and it's an 'oldie but goodie" to boot!

It is not insurmountable but it does rear its ugly head from time to time.

If you flat bet this, you should be OK and you'll be even better if you can increase the session/set wager once you run into the "-4" set.

AD

 

There is a shoe posted today by Alrelax in a thread titled "Sections".

As he was kind enough to post it so I just had to run the VDW on it.

It finished at +16 for that shoe.

Copy and play it yourself to see how it comes out for you.

I did run into three sets where the "No Bet" came up, but none back to back so it wasn't a problem.

This shoe also demonstrated how the long runs help out when doing a back up after the 1-2-3 and 1-3-5 win.

AD

Have just finished the first 1000 hands dealt for this VDW play.

166 wins.  121 losses.

Playing out to the full nine hands rarely happens and generally will finish with a "No Bet" due to either side being able to complete the set correctly.

Playing out to 7 or 8 also produces a "Net No Bet" for the mathematical win, but a set loss.

Once I arrive at a "No Bet" situation where either side can complete the set but neither side is selected, that ends the set for a restart at 1 and you take the 3 losses.

Also, winning on a 123 or 234 allows you to merely reset the string at "1-2" or "3-4" to be able to win ALL hands in any string larger than two and not just every third hand.

Longest losing streak so far has been 5 and that was due to TWO "No Bet" sets ( at 7-8 or 9) in a row, which has happened only once.

Testing continues in "real time" online now.

AD

Quote from: Garfield on May 31, 2016, 08:57:03 AM
Okay. First some live report.

p B p BB pp B p will give 3 L(5,6,8) and 1 W (9).

Actually I believe that gives you a win at 2-5-8 and then you reset.

AD

Quote from: tdx on May 31, 2016, 09:32:26 PM
Might be better playing baccarat instead of roulette.   

I agree and that is also what I've been testing with.

AD

Quote from: from100 on May 31, 2016, 01:13:08 PM
Thanks Nick!

I tried VdW manual and it does not place bet on 9th spin at all...

And RNG also not placing bets in some obvious situations eg. RRBRBBBR, it should bet on B in 9th spin for 3-6-9 and BRBR i should bet for 1-3-5?

There is no ninth spin.

You won the set at 5-6-7

At least the way I see it.

AD

Quote from: Nickmsi on May 31, 2016, 04:06:01 AM
Adulay , If I understand you correctly, we can only use an AP one time. Once it is used, there will never be another opportunity for it to be completed again. 

Cheers
Nick

Nick,

  Thanks for the confirmation.

  I've been a bit taken with this mathematical plan and have already put it up against two of my "worst" testing sheets.

  It did quite well and I was kind of surprised.   

  Now that I've worked with this a bit, it is becoming a bit easier and faster to play.

  Right now the only real "problem" area is when the last wager of the series can safely go on either side to win.   I've been declaring that a draw and just restart a new sequence.

  Thanks for taking the time to write this up and explain it.  I even read the theorem!

  AD

NIck,

  As an example, if the "1-2-3" AP loses, can it be used again in the same block of nine?

  For some reason I'm thinking not, but wanted to make sure one way or the other.

  AD

"Helen",

  Have you decided on just what casino game (or Forex) that you're going to play?

  AD

Agreed.  Thanks for the write up and details.

AD

Pretty clever.  Even keeps track of who is making money and HOW they're doing it.

AD

Albalaha,

  Is your "forum" open for discussion now or is it still a closed, one-sided affair?

  I ask because I haven't been there since you made it a closed system.

  AD

It's funny you should mention that.

I've got this nice pile of $100 bills sitting on the shelf (gambling money, obviously) and every now and then I wonder just how many of those are counterfeit.

As they only get used at the casino, I'm not too worried about it but if I had to take them to the bank for some odd reason, it wouldn't surprise me if a few of them are "duds".

AD

Quote from: Blue_Angel on March 12, 2016, 12:36:54 PM
Every time I'm posting something your reply (Albalaha) is against my post, I say black you say white, I say white you say black, what's your problem with me?!

That's our Albalaha.  He hates everyone's ideas equally. 

Don't take it personally, he's on a mission to rid the world of, well, I'm not really sure, but he's very passionate about it.

AD