All,

   I have a question that may have consequences down the road, assuming the stars align and all that.

  The question is:  What are the primary duties of a bot with regards to your roulette programming?

  Are you placing individual numbers?  Reading numbers?  Reading results?  Reading a screen position?  Multiple positions?

  Approximately how many "spots" or "areas" do you have to monitor to get the data you need to perform any calculations and place a wager?   That last question is probably the main one I have at this time.

  I currently have no need for a "bot" and don't forsee one in the future but knowledge is golden so I'm asking in preparation for an idea session that's coming up.

  If there is a link to a "bot" wiki or something, I'd like to take a look.

  AD

Quote from: wannawin on April 25, 2013, 11:20:03 PM
This is pure drivel right?

As pure as the new driven snow.   The number of players at the console does not change the odds at the wheel.

Anytime a player is losing, they WILL come up with all kinds of apparently "valid" reasons for the losses.

Multiple players at an automated wheel is not one of them.

AD

That second photo in the first message looks exactly like our consoles at the indian casinos.

AD

Quote from: RouletteKEY on April 24, 2013, 01:41:30 AM
I haven't played EC's for a long time...Can they be profitable?  Probably but if I were just playing those odds I think I would favor baccarat and get away from those green numbers

Hey!  Another guy "gets it" !!

If you're going to play EC, go with baccarat for sure.

AD

The Indian nation casinos will do pretty much anything to keep gambling out of Florida.   Well, gambling that's NOT on their land.   This includes slot machines which pretty much every old lady in Florida throws money in every week.

There are literally hundreds of those small "internet cafe" type of casinos all over every metropolitan area.  They find a niche in a neighborhood and become reasonably solid citizens after a few weeks, assuming they don't go out of business in that time.  The ones that do stick around really do a good job of providing amusement and profit to a lot of people.

There was one of these types of "charity" bingo/casino places that evidently gave $3,000,000 to some veterans charity that they were working with but kept something like $300,000,000 for themselves.

Well, that didn't sit right with the law and  instead of shutting them down, they closed EVERY SINGLE slot casino place in the state!!!   I'm not talking 50 or 60 places, I'm talking about THOUSANDS of them, all of whom were hiring people, feeding people, entertaining people and giving to various charities.

It's all stopped for now.

Except the Indian casinos which just march right on with their state sponsored monopoly of gaming.

I've watched the Indian casinos whine and complain and gripe, until the right palms got greased and the state got their cut, and then they got a sweetheart deal/monopoly throughout the state.

Anytime ANY gambling legislation comes up, the Indian nation will always be the ones backing the side that says gambling hurts the economy, gambling is bad, gambling is not what your community needs.

Well, DUH, of course they say that.  If we had any real casinos, everybody would dump the Indian ones in a heartbeat!

Such is the world of money and politics I guess.  Way above my pay grade.

AD

Yep, the law IS too vague.

The fact that the powerful Indian casino lobby had a LOT to do with getting all the internet casinos shut down immediately instead of the two bad apples, speaks volumes about how corrupt the entire partnership of the indian casinos and government really are.

I personally know a lot of people who are now out of the only steady job they really had.

Lots of good people got killed in this sweeping legislative nightmare.

AD

Just thinking out loud here after reading the original message but has anyone noticed a complete lack of new members showing up?

It's not just here, but in most of the niche forums, I'm not seeing anybody new logging in and posting.

Perhaps the masses just gravitate to the "mega-sites" and are content to be there instead of a more specialized forum, such as this one.   If you go to the mega-sites, they may have roulette and baccarat sections, but are generally underused and receive very few posts.

Being a roulette specific forum does have its good points as long as all areas of the game are covered AND you can get the participation of all users.   Some specialize in numbers.  Others play the felt.  AirBall, RNG and system testing are all legitimate areas of discussion to somebody!

AD

I believe the "NewsBot" is getting senile. 

AD

Quote from: Albalaha on April 07, 2013, 10:09:45 AM
Whether you get systems for free or for a price, both will harm you. What they all offer is "new set of fallacies". Tell me one workable idea in this forum or anywhere else. All just help you lose more.

Your losing side is starting to show there , Al.

Most, if not all "systems" just rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic, that I'll agree with.

However, there are METHODS of play that will help the skilled player in particular games.

The obvious direction is to find a game where the method is viable and connect the dots.

Unfortunately, roulette is not one of those games.

AD (this is my own personal opinion, not that of the board)

Is there a particular venue that you would like to learn?

AD

I may as well chime in too!

Just say NO to RNG play of any casino game.

If you must play online, always play at a live table.

If your counter argument is that the RNG game is "faster", then you've got a gambling problem if you can't wait for the normal pace of play at a live table.

Testing with play money doesn't count.  That's not for real and it's only for testing, the results of which may be skewed anyway, but for a quick test/check, RNG may be acceptable in the short term.

AD

Quote from: spike on March 24, 2013, 07:12:25 PM
They say any bets on Baccarat, the EC's in roulette, the dozens
or columns in roulette, do not count to bringing down the bonus.

I don't believe it says you can't bet on the EC's at roulette.  It says you can't wager on both sides at the same time.

Normal EC wagers are acceptable.

AD

Spike,

  Well, I went over to Dublin and finally tracked down the "bonus" requirements.   They actually state that the required amount to payoff the "bonus" may be as high as 37 times your deposit plus bonus!!!

  Also, you cannot play many traditional casino games to satisfy the requirements of the bonus.  As baccarat is on the "no play" list, that kills any bonus for sure.

  Here is the appropriate link for those who wish to read it themselves.  It DOES state that the player has a choice so I would think having them just dump it on you can (and should have been) removed.
 
http://www.dublinbet.com/help/bonus_terms.html

  AD

Quote from: spike on March 24, 2013, 07:12:25 PM
I deposited $50 at an online casino and told them no bonus.
They said OK and gave me the bonus anyway. So now I have
to wager $2000 before I can withdraw any money.

Please name the casino and do NOT play anything until they remove that bonus.

AD

Quote from: Albalaha on March 20, 2013, 06:04:57 AM
              Adulay,
                  Check Kattila's excels. What he is doing is very fine example of "extreme variance control".
           

Hmm, yes I do see what you're looking at.   Slowing the "rate of loss" is working there for sure.

It's also worth taking a closer look at for reference.

AD