There are at least 8 of them who act too smart while having nothing with them.

Newest in the league is: Azim.

He is being oversmart here talking of me while I tried to still behave well.
He claim to have a bot that has been tested upon 700 millions spins. Yes you heard it right.
Then why don't he win big money himself while trying to rent a bot.
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Now anybody please ask him where is the bot that beats 700 millions spins flat. He is a fraud. He has claims that are out of this world while he lacks even elementary knowledge of randomness or gambling. At one time he says he can not gamble as not allowed by his religion. Next he says he will inherit this only to his son. What a nice person.

Betvoyager is coming up with the biggest roulette tournament of recent times with prizes worth E100,000.
Prizes range from Euro 100 to Euro 5000 and 319 winners will be paid. It is a grand opportunity. The entry cost is merely E20 and the greatest thing is, they will start tournament just after 500 players joining in. So they can not gather more than E10k through entries and more than half players will win at least E100. It is like betting an Even Chance bet with minimum 5x payout.
It is a big throwaway with roulette games.
They will let every player play 4 kind of roulette: No zero roulette, American roulette, European roulette and european roulette with no house edge(fair payout) and ranking will be done with overall performance and score in 4 games.

They call it Grand Goldfish Bonanza Tournament.
I participated in the earlier Goldfish Bonanza Tournament and won too. Hope to win again.
Are you joining too?

I see this tendency for years or since I start to think of baccarat or roulette. People came up with complex looking bets that needs microscopic eyes, long excel sheets, complex formulae or miles of tracking to get our bet. Even I went into the same path, for sure when I was to find the bet that is better than all other. Many gave me illusion of being finer for a short period and later when evaluated that long enough,found that it was only equal to a randomly picked bet only. No difference.
                 I would like to point out some of the very complex looking bets that gave no real advantage to any but kept delusion in minds of the  readers that oh, it is something different and unique and will help for sure.
           First I would start with GUT, a deemed big thing in online forums. It gave a theory of a crossing of some hit and unhit numbers and to extract the numbers therefrom to bet. Even creator of the system could not clarify the exact way of using that. No appropriate MM were ever suggested that can help. Ophis simulated the same and declared a big loser as anything else.

   I saw Martin Blakey book and his method of betting different bets in steps of if first fails bet second and then third. A bit complex to use but still easier than GUT. Mr. Blakey was alive and joined some forums and I asked how all these can help in random betting and if he is ready to prove his point by simulations. He said, I won with this all my life but you may not. Enough to understand.

  Then came the king of optical illusions over roulette wheel--Kimo Li. He taught us nukes, stars, pies, boomrang, bowtie and what not on the wheel itself. I asked him some plain questions, how does these images or any of them help to win and if he has any appropriate MM to help. He did not answer much and tried to avoid being straight.

           Then I saw our superstar of complex bets, Johnlegend and his pattern breaker and hilarious 7 on 1 which were based on the assumption that if a pattern is the last possible pattern of that length, it may not hit as easily. I myself simulated both his methods and that proved too silly to try.

I had my own silly complex set of bets too. My favorite was the best two numbers that kept me busy for about 2 years. It looked good but had the same set of troubles as any other bet. In my earlier, "finest method to defeat roulette" that became talk of the town in rf.cc in Victor's time, I relied too much upon repeaters in a particular span. It had trackings but not too complex. We just needed to see the marquee and bet every number that came twice there expecting to come for third or more times. Although my complex betting had a difference. I suggested MMs too to handle the worst cases and never claimed anything to win flat or suggested any martingale.
           I worked on Latest 18 unique numbers considering that better than any EC bet and trying to get advantage from "sleeper" numbers. Believe me, all these doesn't work. I can confirm this and challenge anybody to disprove me.

                  Recently saw, lots of hue and cry over VDW, an old idea of picking non-random bets started by my friend Nick. Although he doesn't have a claim that it will be better than 50:50 but some of his tests and tests of one of my another buddy Audiokinesis over No Zero wheel are making ripples in the forum's pond.

                  No amount of tracking, codifying, sorting, unsorting, filtering, calculating can give us any idea of any bet that can do better when we start to bet that. Since we need to bet on any bet, we can pick that in any style and I am not saying all these betselections are foolish but they won't give us any advantage in long run, I am 100% sure of that.
                       
                               One of the wisest guys in forums, Mark (known as gizmotron) does have claims of identifying patterns and gaining advantage therefrom. I am not sure if anything like that even exists. His ideas are either too complex to understand and use or he failed to demonstrate how exactly one needs to play that.
                        If someone asks me what would I like to play in roulette as my bet, I would say any EC bet. In baccarat, I would bet only Player.

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Tomorrow both teams will fight to lift the prestigious cup. With the defeat of many other aspirants like England, Wales and the world champion Germany and nice underdog Belgium, which one should do the best?

France seem to do its best in form. It has home advantage as well with huge fan following.
Portugal is an underdog but who knows when a goal from Ronaldo will turn things upside down.

What is your prediction?

I can go for France as outright winner as a statistically favorable bet.

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They will get the same bonus.
             Remember, this is an exclusive bonus not even published on their own website, so far. It may last for a few days only so grab it before it goes.
   I would love to see how far one goes with it. To the best of my knowledge, betvoyager accepts accounts from all over the world without any country restriction, so everybody can have this opportunity to try their luck and systems without any risk whatsoever. You either win or do not lose. The best thing is, with 1 cent bets one has 1000 units to try. There is no limit of how much you can win with it. Once you do the wagering required the amount of bonus will be deducted and all winnings are yours to withdraw or play further.
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Best of luck.

I am here talking of "No zero roulette" as offered by   betvoyager.com or similar casinos where there is no zero in the wheel and hence the odds and payouts are perfect. It becomes a zero house edge game too, by default.
Earlier I saw no zero roulette in some other casinos like betfair too but now betvoyager claims to be only casino offering the same.

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                                          Further, having no zero has special benefits to EC betting. Although, there is a catch. They charge 10% of the total winnings that you got when you close a session. So, if you lose something, you give to casino money and here even at a net win, casino will earn a bit from you. They will automatically deduct the sum of 10% of the net profit of the last concluded session. If a session doesn't conclude in 24 hrs betvoyager will take it concluded and if there is a net profit, 10% will be deducted therefrom.
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          Only difference between bet spread of standard European roulette vs no house edge no zero roulette is the minimum bet of 1 cent vs 5 cents. A bet range of 5 cents to Euro 2000 is huge enough.

Now, a million dollar question is whether it is any beneficial than usual European roulette or french roulette(betvoyager doesn't offer French roulette so far with la partage rule)? It is also noteworthy that earlier rule for deduction of 10% from net winning was very different. Earlier, if you have played no zero roulette or other no house edge games, they used to count your profit from that and if you play other games too and remain at net profit still, they used to deduct the 10% of net winnings from the no house edge games at the time of withdrawal. Now they don't bother to wait for that. The moment you come out a winner, you get charged and money gets deducted automatically from your balance. Let's investigate the true impact of the said no house edge games and no zero roulette in particular.   
   
To understand the real house edge of the casino, in such games, lets consider a hypothetical situation.
Let's consider the same game in a real casino with similar rules. Two brothers "A" and "B" come to play having common funds which they share half each. A always bets Red while B always bets Black. They always bet $10 on their respective bets.
  After 100 spins, A wins on red 54 times and happy with $40 net profit. While B has won only 46 times and at a loss of $40. So far, things look perfect.

   Now, casino personnel charge $4 from A for winning a net profit of $40, so his net win reduces to $36 only. Together, they are at a net loss of $4 ($40 loss- $36 win). So, the house edge is still there. In European roulette, theoretically, in $1000 bets made, one should lose $27.40. In no  zero roulette, it varies differently in different situations.  After the collective bets made of $2000(each A and B made bets of $1000 ), they lost $4 to the house only. In the discussed case, house edge came to be 0.20% but it may vary from situation to situation.
        It is pertinent to understand the real meaning of no house edge and no zero and its real overall effect taking into account the 10% fees charged on the net wins, when one wins.

           Say, I play EC bets only betting Euro 100 averagely per spin. Single zero European roulette is supposed to take away Euro 2.70 per spin as house edge and in 100 spins we are supposed to be down by Euro 270 while in no zero roulette, we are not going to lose even a cent this way. Say, we remain at break even after 100 spins and then win 3 units in next 100 spins, i.e. winning Euro 300. We close the session and betvoyager charges Euro 30 only. Where is the harm? Since we play in the expectation of being a net winner, no house edge in the form of no zero roulette, is indeed a boon. It is like tipping the croupier at the end of a very successful session.

  I read a very ridiculous topic by Steve H, admin of various roulette forums: http://betselection.cc/roulette-forum/betvoyager-no-zero-roulette-is-worse-than-single-zero-roulette-it's-a-scam/msg44333/#msg44333 . He was, however, answered very well by many members on his misconceptions.

             Further, no zero means absence of the green goblin zero giving the biggest relief to EC bettors. Getting equilibrium is at least theoretically and mathematically possible in the long run that wasn't so with standard European and American roulette.
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To conclude, I would love to see the same no zero roulette with real land based casinos(I believe it is doable easily on automated roulette) and online live dealer casinos too. Not doable on a manual dealer in a land based casino though.

If betvoyager has patented this, they should come up themselves with live dealer roulette with no zero roulette and same set of rules.

Although, Positive gambling module takes care of 90% of the harshest sessions possible to take them out of placed bets but even after all the safeguards, one can still witness tough and bad stretches in EC betting. Let us see how the different harsh sessions were dealt by Positive Gambling Module, I call it PGM.
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            It was one of the worst sessions possible. 151 Losses and 89 Wins only. No streak to help much.
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Because they were created on false premises and assumptions than realities of the game like virtual limit of variance, table limits that a casino will offer realistically and a realistic bankroll. Martingale, Fibonacci, Labouchere and all their cousines were created ignoring all. Needless to say, they are bound to do irreparable damage in just one failure and even two- three successive failures could be seen too.
These progressions can beat any probability that could come in the game provided we have trillions of chips to risk for winning 1 and no table limits too. Nice fantasy!!!!!

D'alembert: This classical comedy of +1/-1 were done assuming law of averages to be true and getting compensatory wins later. Further, it believes in equilibrium while in reality house edge makes it impossible to have equilibrium for any EC in the long run. Even without a house edge there may not be an equilibrium so long one can play.

Oscar's Grind: This assumes there will be cluster of wins after cluster of losses and hence increasing only in wins and same as last after losses considered safe while in reality, it doesn't hold. There may be a good cluster, there may be none.

HP Johnson: This absolute hilarious illusion made many buffoons jump with Eureka while it is merely Flat bet to begin, Labouchere when string gets shorter and an ugly martingale at last. If you are not lucky enough to get all the wins at last very organized way, it finishes too bad.

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I opened this topic if anybody has any query regarding that. Trolls and buffoons please avoid writing here and they are free to make their own topics anywhere else.

Are you tired of losing in casinos? Want to know why are you destined to lose only? Is there any way you can

improve your chances to win while enjoying gambling and not get fainted at seeing

LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLWLLLLLWLLLLLLLLLLWLWLLLLLLLLLLLW  type cases that are called "run from the hell" ? Everyone can tell you a method to be played in average times while on getting harsh times you will lose what you can never earn back. My positive gambling module is trying to make a difference right there.

People look for winning systems and methods while it is a full module of how exactly one should play having positive expectations of win, in the long run. It includes clear safeguards regarding how to avoid LOSING BIG in the worst streaks that can plunder whatever you can bet and how to sustain the worst even if it creeps in our session despite all the safeguards without losing a fortune. I do have an MM which is never heard before that behaves as per the session is going and kind of auto adjust to cause you better chances to earn in good times while lesser chances to lose at the worst. It can beat the house edge and a bit of variance against us, very swiftly.

Some essentials to understand:

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The module has been tweaked to be made playable all over(betting every spin/hand)with the same stop loss i.e. 300 units. No triggers, no waiting for something to start, no pausing.

2. This method needs good number of chips. I advise one to have at least 300 chips as sessions bankroll and 3000 chips as lifetime bankroll. Although losing even 300 units, my way, is pretty unusual, positive gambling never makes anybody blind. Be prepared to face things that has not been seen to ruin your entire bankroll money too.Extremely Unlikely but not impossible.

3. To understand the full capacity of this system, check the  horror sessions provided in http://betselection.cc/albalaha's-exclusive/anybody-think-such-bad-streak-can-be-won/

and also at:
http://betselection.cc/albalaha's-exclusive/harsh-sessions-won-by-positive-gambling-module/

This methodology beats all of them or keeps unhurt in them. Every other method of playing will lose badly in each of them. If someone reverse engineers a particular bad session he will lose in all other as blue angel did.

4.I will provide all the rules of the method in writing with sufficient illustrations in excel. I will be available for chat support on gmail and skype too till one gets to understand every essential of it.

5. It is not meant for newbies or very aggressive daydreamers who wants to kill casinos or become millionaire overnight. This method earns slowly and patiently, hence recommended to experienced players only who are already playing regularly full time in casinos(land based or online) with sufficient bankroll and time.

6. One can play it online with RNG or live dealer or in a real casino. Play it in roulette or Baccarat. Basically meant for EC betting but can be modified to be played with any bet.

7.My methodology is not based on any gamblers' fallacy or myths or any mystical force that does not exist in real world but on logic and      probability.

8. My bets do not go sky high even in the worst of the worst cases. It is not risk thousands to earn 1 unit method. You can earn big units too. Fighting the worst possible cases is the speciality of this method.

9. Those playing for peanuts/cents/fun please avoid to contact me as it is meant for real gamblers who want to improve the way they play and enhance their pleasure of gambling along with increasing their chances to go home winner, at the end of the day and positively by the end of a week.

10. It is primarily for EC betting i.e. for playing Even, Odd, High, Low, Red. Black of roulette and Banker or Player of Baccarat or any other form of random gambling where chance to lose a bet is almost close to chance to win and payouts are similar too. Can be tried on sports betting with similar house edge EC betting. Those looking to play Baccarat, I would advise betting Player only.

11. It needs a bit of tracking, so choose casinos where if you write your notes on a sheet, none irritates or lurks too much. Better play online or automated roulette for the sake of privacy.

12. There will be no moneyback as you can not return back all the knowledge I am going to give you. In addition to that, there will be a Non Disclosure agreement between the buyer and me that he will not talk of the content in any public forum nor will he share the methodology anywhere.

13. There is no guarantee that you will win in each and every situation but I can guarantee you better gambling experience where any player playing will any other published method will lose hope of winning or even surviving. The method is primarily meant to safeguard the wash off of your money in tough times that empties most players. You will smile to see the so-called run from hell. I guarantee this.

14. Those who believe there is no way to win in long run by any mathematical/ mechanical approach, have a look at: http://betselection.cc/albalaha's-exclusive/holy-grail-randomness-can-be-beaten-even-in-the-longest-run/

It is far better approach than that one now, possible to be done manually too.


This positive gambling module is the result of my years of playing, studying and researches and meant for purely random sessions where none can guess what will happen. It has an in-built filter that removes the worst possible scenarios or "run from the hell" spins and the Money management handles the rest in a manner which you can't even imagine.

Email me if you are willing to take my knowledge and improve your existing gambling skills and chances.
Remember, it is not for novice players or unemployed poor people who want their bread from it. It is meant for gamblers who are already into it for years and not on the verge of getting bankrupt.

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Email: earnsumit@gmail.com telling me your experiences, bankroll, choice of casinos, table limits etc and how much do you target positively to earn a day.

Happy positive gambling.

Yes. Anybody talking of a bet to be better or the best is either a naive or a crooked person. Every bet on roulette covers a portion of the wheel. Its win:loss are thereby proportional too. In a random game, we will always see wild and wilder scatter and clusters and nothing can predict when they will behave in what manner.
         Even bets looking very dashing at the moment can go bad immediately when you bet on them. Hot, cold, sleepers, repeaters, opposite last, same as last or all these are just fanciful ways to pick a probability which is always constant.
        Whichever bet you pick by any magical formula, it can not be a Constant Winning bet in any manner, by itself. Correct use of MM can though make any bet a CWB in the long run.

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VIRTUAL BETTING: Does it help? Mathematically, No. Virtual betting doesn't change the odds of the game and no past decisions can hint about future decisions but if we believe in sequential probability, very long series of losses or wins are not so easy or frequent. However, they can come up any moment upto its virtual/estimated limit.

For example, getting a Win after 25 Losses is possible and it can happen any moment. However, getting 2 such stretches of 25 losses followed by a single W in succession is so remote, we can kind of take that as not probable. Theoretically, every spin is different and unique and any result is possible in a particular spin, we do not see 30 or more consecutive wins/losses of an EC ever.

Any sensible money management that tries to fight with randomness needs to take care of the virtual limits and the fact that they may come up any moment. Technically, in long run, we can think of winning where number of Wins are closer to the number of Losses. Regression towards mean is guaranteed to work in long run but it is not possible to pre determine when it starts to throw near equal Wins and Losses.

Virtual betting can help, in a way to avoid the worst possible scenarios to a certain extent.

I suggest betting only upto 150% of the break even point as wins over it is meaningless and won't help much in recoveries. While an EC is almost 90% certain to win within three attempts, a win over it may take in even 25 extra losses.

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Well,
        I play all sorts of roulette, real casinos, online live dealer and even RNG because I consider them to be all random. Same thing goes with baccarat too but I have never tried/played RNG baccarat, not because I do not believe it same but I am not sure where to play. Can anyone point me the best place to play RNG baccarat where bet spread(table limit)is nice enough?
              Please do not argue that RNG baccarat is not baccarat. I need a fair and fast RNG baccarat having fair bet spread(1-200).

I am trying to compile a few of the slots and other games wins where winnings were great looking and a very rare combination of luck appeared making me say wow
                          One from today, win is only $8 but I got it with a bet of only 1 cent. I opted only 5 numbers to play, 1-12-22-32-43. I got all 5 together in a hit. A win of 800x of the bet.

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Lots of "systems" here and there. For price and for free but do they hold if we keep playing? Answer is no. Will someone dare to include the reasoning or logic to play this or that? Be it roulette or baccarat or even slots, what to play, when to play and why play that way is absolutely missing.
           Will people ever dare to put what, when and why too, in their so called systems? Three answers are necessary for both betselection and money management(progression, regression, flat betting, stop loss and loss recovery all included) but everybody shies away from them. I see lots of copy paste guys here and literally everywhere. A few prefer to write a single topic to 5 or more forums they belong to. A few write "daily systems" without even testing them enough. Will we ever see serious and worthwhile debates with serious simulations, tweaking and finalizing?

In my humble opinion, there are primarily four classes of gamblers:

1. Casual visitors: They come in a casino as they go to amusement park or a club or a disco, once in a while. They know they have lesser chances to win anything than lose. It is merely a kind of leisure activity for them. They move around, play a little and go away home usually with a small loss of money. They often come with regular ones as friend or family. They have interest in gambling but are too scared to play large.

2. Regulars: They may have started as a casual player but now they want to take "revenge" against their prior losses. Mostly they do not have any strategy and they either bet on impulse or on their superstitious choices. They are seen in casino on a regular basis.

3. Semi skilled: They know law of third, martingale, fibo, labby, positive progression, negative progressions, EV and various other terms and fallacies spread out by various gambling books, websites, forums, blogs etc. Even if they have not read all these they understand this by their experience. A few of them even test their "favorite systems" to win in a few sample sessions. They have a misconception that they are far better than casual visitors or regulars and have thereby better chance to win too. They win and lose sessions and ultimately remain at a net loss.

4. Skilled: They know how to play and maximize their chances of winning. They do not win every time but in overall, they are winners. A cut above the rest.

Percentage of all classes of gamblers, in my observation:

Casual Visitors: Not less than 40% of total players

Regulars: Not less than 50%

Semi Skilled: Not less than 9%

Skilled: Not more than 1 in a thousand

It is really a pity that $30 has caused so much troubles with a forum with gamblers playing for real money and talking of everything under the sun here. Thanks God that it is over now but please do something that ensures that no such problem comes ahead.
               I have troubles with using paypal for paying anyone from my country. Earlier, Vic could use moneybookers (now skrill ) and paypal both so I always extended my help in such cases. How about creating a pool of funds for maintenance of this forum? A separate section for donations where not just paypal but ecopayz, neteller and skrill (earlier moneybookers) accounts and even Western Union and Moneygram should be set up and all members can pay whatever they wish when they win good online or in real casino with whichever payment mode, one wishes. We can tip croupiers and waitresses then why can't we tip the forum too? Pay anything from Euro 1 to Euro 50, as you wish.
                Esoito, Vic or anybody else come forward with these accounts and these funds will help Vic and this forum as and when required.

                    While it is a topic that deserves too much attention and innovation, I see absolutely no work on it.
Why can't we create an MM that fights with randomness for long sustaining through worst of it and ultimately winning when variance cools down to the level of the house edge alone or closer?If you analyse any bet, you will find that after a reasonable span of time, a bet gets smooth enough to be beaten. All the extremes of variance are temporary and gradually every bet confirms to the mathematical expectancy attached to it, including the house edge. We see all the progressions meant for few spins or a small session. Have anybody ever thought of a long term progression? By long term, I mean like a progression for an EC for 500 spins or 1000 spins for a dozen or may be until we get a net win.

                         Long term doesn't only mean a single long session of thousands of spins but could be for 10 or 20 sessions or more taken together as long run.

I do not want to cut-paste, please read the topic here: http://albalaha.lefora.com/topic/19400624/Before-you-try-to-play-with-any-system#.VBvCV5SSxA4

Do we have anybody skilled enough to do this?

Roulette has no memory, it  has  no eyes, brain or calculator. I heard it, read it, debated it and agree too. Further, this universal rule says that previous spins have absolutely no impact on spins to come. If it is true, why in the entire history of roulette, worldwide, there has not been any successive hit of an EC even 36 times. With 18 different pockets for every EC bet, innumerable permutations and combinations are possible that can do so. Why it did not happen ever?
                                            Those who has any solid reasoning or reference are most welcome to comment. No jokes or chit chats here, please. I am missing Bayes here.

Dear Friends,
                I am attaching the worst doing dozen for 1000 spins. It has about -5 SD. I hope it can help a few of us, in testing.[attachimg=1]