QuoteYour losing side is starting to show there , Al. Most, if not all "systems" just rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic, that I'll agree with. However, there are METHODS of play that will help the skilled player in particular games. The obvious direction is to find a game where the method is viable and connect the dots. Unfortunately, roulette is not one of those games. AD (this is my own personal opinion, not that of the board)

Captain,
                              I am the one who has balls of steel. I have already accomplished which you would not even dream of. You better educate newbies. The Ophis bot is an answer to all your doubts. Do anything even remotely close to that, then make statements.

Please ask Ophis to get the bot to u or Bayes, for trial.

Bayes,
      I respect your knowledge and unbiased explanation of mathematics behind all these. System selling is not a sin. We refer to so many stuffs here mostly written by someone else be it Labouchere or Kimo Li's GPM.
        Every sensible person knows there are no way to beat the odds, in all probabilities. Whatever we stake at table, we should be ready to lose. People still write different styles of betting and gamblers still buy books. We used to talk of ways to beat the wheel 4 years back and still do that.
          If nothing can beat the game, why are we gathered here? We still talk of options and styles. If everything is waste, just close this gambling forum. You eat poison for free or buy it for a heavy price, results will be same. If forum members tell methods that are proven failures and a skilled sytem seller/author guides about the realities of game, for a price, who is better?
               If there is something which is a sin in system selling, in my opinion is to not to deliver what you promise.
So far as, Ophis bot is concerned, all the testings and graphs are absolutely real and I have openly asked that Victor may ask Ophis for trial of bot and can check whether what was claimed, was true or not. Can anybody here dare to do this? Can anybody replicate our success on such a huge data with any other approach?

Go, try in comedy flicks. You have bigger opportunity there.

Whether you get systems for free or for a price, both will harm you. What they all offer is "new set of fallacies". Tell me one workable idea in this forum or anywhere else. All just help you lose more.

Another sound advice is not to gamble at all because u can only lose money.

His webpage is working still. if the amount was paid via paypal, the buyer can raise a dispute.

Because it can be done. I can do even better. I never wanted to say this. Such statements create controversies.

Yeah,
             A "donation section" or "site maintenance fundraising section" would do greater than putting donation button. If someone is really interested in gambling, there is no harm in giving a minor financial aid to a community like this. It is a gambling university.

Victor,
     My suggestion: make a permanent donation section for the forum's upkeep so that it doesn't become a responsibility of yours only. It is necessary now since there is no paid subscribers. Open donations and its open acknowledgements will lead more members to come forward to help and the best part is, it is voluntary.

Can say nothing about anybody. It is a software/bot. Nothing can predict what is going to happen.

I may look like a "dark" commentator to you since you speak too loud while have nothing to show but I don't spread fallacies and "darkness". I can't clap on your "new set of fallacies". 

Why are you scared of proving anything? Go read a good book on gambling and stop daydreaming. Don't make statements that you don't understand.

Quoteif you want to pay for it...

Gladly. If you can prove your point in the biggest data that I give you like my Holy Grail had beaten 10 M data plus data provided by other forum members.
         If your betselection has proven edge, I will certainly pay you, rather everybody who plays professionally will pay you. Ready to prove?

QuoteAs for bet selections, from my research some perform better than others.

Really?   Which ones are them? Let us all know the biggest breakthrough in gambling theories.