I agree with Lupo's choice as well.

Victor,
  Can you please demonstrate this to clarify what you mean to say and how good it is in a sample session?

Johnlegend,
                   I want to know the best suggested settings from you of your PB, in Ophis MST.

The sidecar is innovative and good looking too. I hope the rider can use it comfortably. It appears as a motorbike is running along a small car.

Nice to see this section, Victor. I hope it will be a very useful place worth referring.

QuoteHmmm...    Seems like we might need a separate thread to discuss the pros and cons of Hit'n'run [HAR][/size]Yes?  No?It's going to raise its head again and again, of course, because players are either for or against. There seem to be few fence sitters over the issue.

                      Well, I agree that it is a debatable issue.

I am going to put a very serious debate in this regard which will either shut all system makers' mouths or going to fetch the most playable idea. For spreading some logical ideas of mine or my fellows, I have now opened my private club/forum for the masses to view( it was a private forum and contents were hidden for non-members earlier. You can visit : http://albalaha.lefora.com

Welcome Subby.

Well said Esoito,
         The feelings that you expressed in the beginning of this thread belong to all of us, literally.
I am not boasting but I am not a butterfly (it doesn't mean I am considering myself nectar). I am here only because Victor invited me on all his ventures (I can still recall when he invited me to join rouletteforum.cc while I was member of vlsroulette and rouletteforum.net). He is such a nice person, I couldn't dare to deny this. One more thing, I too need like-minded and known buddies who have a common interest.
                  Of course, I look at different threads but I can swear that so far I have yet to see a system or workable idea on these various forums that I can personally use for any betterment except a few posts from Bayes and superman which talk of mathematical aspects.
            Every system wins in certain favorable conditions and lose in not so-favorable ones. When we see MST, we get that all well-known methods lose in large pieces of data. You have number of choices to play with so-called "systems" but none can make you a winner in long run, unless u remain perpetually lucky.

Quote I believe a good method played Hit and Run is an absolute way of beating this game longterm.

There is nothing like hit and run. Today you get a lucky hit and you run away. Next day numbers will hit you and you will run away(after losing).
Unless and until there is a very clear system that wins more when you play more, you can not win in long term. If someone has made some quick winnings somehow he should not confuse himself that he will keep on winning the same way. House edge and extreme variance takes care of all these misconceptions at some point of time.

Ok. got your point.

Indeed,
        I just generated 5000 straight-up numbers with the help of "\n" separator.

Wow Victor,
            It is so useful. It is like having an RNG of our own. Isn't it possible to export output in txt file as:
4
23
0
15
2
27
1
       ?


     With comma as seperator, the txt file is not usable for data analysis with different bots/trackers and even for excel export. Please let me know.

QuoteBut I am saying the certainty of a repeat.In 4 spin, there will be at least one colour which repeated twice (either red, black or green)In 5 spin, there will be at least one dozen which will repeat twice (either dozen 1, dozen 2, dozen 3 or zero)In 38 spin, there will be at least one number which will hit twice or more (100%)

          What are you saying buddy? when there are only two choices, then one has to come at least twice in three decision. It is like saying that in three flips of a coin, wither "Head" or "Tail" will appear at least twice. This in not a certainty of repeat but rather two independent choices in every flip.


                         G. U. T. may look great to some of the members here but as any other systems, it fails to produce anything in long run.
G. U. T. is not an answer to the randomness of roulette, though it is a way to try your luck.
                           Yesterday, I was chatting with my buddy "Ophis" who is a a nice programmer, as to why he never considered putting G.U.T into his Multi System Tracker.
         Here is my chat with him:

Quote[size=78%][11/4/2012 7:56:15 PM] sumiteshwar: tell me one thing[/size]
[11/4/2012 7:56:27 PM] sumiteshwar: u r pretty experienced with softwares
[11/4/2012 7:58:02 PM] sumiteshwar: Have you ever tried G.U.T. of winkel?
[11/4/2012 7:58:21 PM] sumiteshwar: in  your MST or anywhere seperately?
[11/4/2012 8:18:43 PM | Edited 8:19:05 PM] ohsteos: in theory its great... in practice... too many numbers to bet... not clear explanations when what to bet.... could never reproduce results
[11/4/2012 8:19:01 PM] sumiteshwar: yeah
[11/4/2012 8:19:10 PM] sumiteshwar: It never impressed me
[11/4/2012 8:26:31 PM] sumiteshwar: but it was too much hyped on all roulette forums
[11/4/2012 8:28:38 PM] ohsteos: because its complicated...
[size=78%][11/4/2012 8:28:50 PM] ohsteos: ppl didint understand so there was lots of discusion[/size]

Paddypower does refund your bets several times. Doesn't happen with ladbrokes ever.