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Ha Ha. It went repetitive and assertive hence closed.

QuoteHowever, baccarat is not a game of great difficulty if one is comfortable with it and has the vision to play along with the shoe.  It is tons easier than black jack and other games where a gambler must beat the house. 

Lol!!!
You or Gizmotron can not beat even simple random sessions without much dispersion and you are saying it is not a difficult game to beat. Anybody claiming to beat baccarat(or any game of pure chance) by "intelligent picks" seeing trends or patterns is pretty novice and ignorant of basic mathematics. Sadly common sense is not so common. It is not EASY to beat baccarat in permutations and combinations of wins and losses coming where losses has to surpass wins by count or house fees. You and Gizmo are making people believe that one can simply pick bets having better chances to win than lose but not able to prove your point in any manner.

             I think this debate is going pretty repeatitive with same set of arguments being offered hence closing the topic.

Disconnections make no difference if you understand that every other spin gives an independent result. You may consider disconection as merely a break between your trials and nothing else.

Quote from: Gizmotron on December 31, 2016, 12:50:40 AM
Nice try. These bone headed headshrinkers are as pathetic as they can be, all be it total ignorance. They project their logic as a cause of problem gambling.

Wow! Calling a purely scientific and mathematical observation pathetic shows ignorance is lying somewhere else. Relying upon Predictions, forecast, Trends, patterns in a purely random game or a wishful thinking that one can "pick" better bets and win flat by any methodology is pretty childish.
Thankfully we are not here talking of intutions, precognitions, numerology or occult to help us win. Seeing tends and predicting in an interrelated events and in a totally random game where every bet is totally independent are poles apart.

May God help you.

QuoteSeriously................I have played this game for the better part of 35 years plus. 

QuoteAt this point I believe I am right, you rarely or never have played in a live real casino. 

Buddy, I have taught people of your age and experience from all the continents of the world. I have played a lot in real and live casinos but can not play daily there as they are far from me and I have my profession to carry as well. I play in real casinos in long stretched trips and published many of the trip reports since last 8 years on Victor's and many other forums. Now I feel that instead of wasting my time in travelling, I can play online with my pace and comfort. I believe a fair RNG is as good as a real wheel(I primarily play roulette and seldom baccarat be it real casino or online) as a roulette wheel and ball do serve as mechanical RNG. If someone says online gambling is not real it is comparable to say that an e-mail/sms is not a real mail and I will handwrite a mail, buy tickets for that and put that in a post box and wait for that to be delivered safely and read.
                           What people are missing here badly is to understand the reality of a random game. Poor understanding of how randomness works and how house advantage slowly kills us, there is no room for becoming an informed player. A player can neither control the random good and bad times, nor can reduce the house edge. It could still be possible to win a net profit with correct money management approach.. Sadly people know of the Archaic MMs only and they are meant to plunder players even faster. Those ill made progressions/MMs are pretty silly as they are meant for short sessions where one can get very hostile sessions too and that will put things upside down for any progression player and cause irreparable losses.
             Seeing trends and patterns in a purely random game is pathetic and willingly or unwillingly their advocates are manufacturing a new set of problem gamblers. See: https://www.problemgambling.ca/EN/ResourcesForProfessionals/Pages/WhyWeSeePatternsinSequencesofRandomEvents.aspx

I welcome this step as Glen is one of the most interactive(of course very active too) in this community and have nice experience of the games and he seems to be very unbiased as well. Good decision, Victor.

          Earlier a few global moderators were made that admittedly never played in any real casino. Luckily they are out of the league and got busy into their real occupations.

QuoteThanks and hope your new year is of course lucky and may you sheer guess correct each and every time because there is no other way................................

If you gamble in the belief of being lucky, sadly you can not be lucky in the long run. http://albalaha.lefora.com/topic/19400636/Long-run-in-gambling#.WGagRFN97IU

QuoteWhat do you do with this: BBBB PPPP BBBB PPPP BBBB PPPP BBBB PPPP BBBB PPPP

Lol. there can still be both probabilities of P and B in the next hand and a chance of getting PPBB is as much after this as of BBBB or BPBP or any of the combinations possible. Patterns are illusions only. You can not extract from  emerging patterns in the long run and will lose ultimately. This is extreme ignorance only and nothing else.

"Gamblers are more impulsive and 'see patterns' where there are none." https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/04/150429100937.htm

I can only conclude my argument by saying, "every guess or method of guessing" is equally like to help or kill. Claiming of gaining an advantage from any wild method of guessing or identifying the running trends is as frivilous as it could be. Be real guys.

QuoteIf you are merely saying, one cannot identify when it is going to happen, you are correct--of course.  However, in reality and in live casino play, players all the time can and do, identify a cluster or section or 'short playable' that will produce winner after winner.

If you are now seeing say BBBB what can you identify seeing this? If you guess this is streak, the chance of ending the streak right here and goin one more time is equal. How can you utilize that? After the end of a session it is easier to analyse but identifying an "opportunity" at correct times could be done only with clairvoyance. Sadly I do not have clairvoyance. I work on logic only.

We can predict only one thing with some kind of accuracy. In long run(enough trials that can be numerically defined) things would be closer to the average expectancy. Identifying trends or patterns or any other kind of fanciful guessing doesn't work in a short playable sessions. I am not talking of the so called "advantage gamblers".

We do not need to predict the future outcomes. It is just not possible and hence not worth trying. What we need is an approach that is dynamic enough to handle the variance of all sorts without losing much foolishly. With Regression towards mean we should be able to win in the long run. That is what I am pointing out here.
        All money management approaches that we see around failed to ignore this vital truth and hence worthless.

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Merry Christmas, Happy New Year and my best wishes for all your plays. Play wise, play safe.