Thanks GreatGrampa. I agree about being flexible and adapting to changing circumstances. In my experience, usually when I switch after losses that is the point when the results decide to change too and I get more losses...
Anyhow what do you think of this follow-the-wheel approach below which ALWAYS bets on the predominating sides of an EC over the last THREE spins instead of each SINGLE spin........?

Track the EC results of the last 3 numbers.

R/B     E/O    H/L

Then FLATBET for each spin the side of the EC which predominates out of the LAST 3 VERTICAL results in each column.

If flatbetting then the bet never changes:  1u-1u-1u each spin after the initial 3 recorded numbers.

Or you can use +1 cyclic progression as below (eg: after 5 results)

Remember take the side of the EC which dominates out of the last 3 vertical results (check after each spin)

Results are from a NOZERO session using cyclic betting

[reveal=Cyclic Progression]

BEH
BEL
BEL    first 3 numbers so bet BEL as they are the dominants in each column

REH   LWL   -1  NOW  BET BEL
REL   LWW +0 NOW BET REL
BOH   LLL   -3  NOW BET REH
ROH   WLW  -2   NOW BET ROH
ROL    WWL -1  NOW BET ROH ......Incr to 2
---------------------------------------------
ROL   WWL  +1   NOW BET ROL
BOL   LWW  +3   NOW BET ROL 
REH   WLL   +1   NOW BET ROL
BEL    LLW   -1  NOW BET BEL
BEL    WWW +5  NOW BET BEL....Decr to 1
---------------------------------------------
BEH    WWL  +6  NOW BET BEL
BEH    WWL  +7  NOW BET BEH
ROH   LLW    +6   NOW BET BEH
REL    LWL    +5   NOW BET REH
BEH    LWW   +6  NOW BET REH.....Stay at 1
--------------------------------------------
ROL    WLL    +5 NOW BET REH
BOL    LLL     +2  NOW BET BOL
BEH    WLL    +1   NOW BET BOL
ROH    LWL    +0   NOW BET BOH
BOH    WWW +3  NOW BET BOH......Incr to 2
----------------------------------------------
BEH    WLW   +5 NOW BET BOH
ROL     LWL    +3 NOW BET BOH
BOL    WWL   +5 NOW BET BOL
REH     LLL     -1   NOW BET BOL
ROL     LWW   +1 NOW BET ROL........Incr to 3
--------------------------------------------
BEL     LLW     -2  NOW BET ROL
BOL     LWW   +1 NOW BET REL
ROH     WLL    -2 NOW BET BOL
REH     LLL     -11 NOW BET BOL
ROL     LWW    -8 NOW BET ROH.......Incr to 4
----------------------------------------------
ROL     WWL   -4 NOW BET ROH
ROL     WWL   +0 NOW BET ROL
ROL     WWW  +12  NOW BET ROL
REL     WLW    +16 NOW BET ROL
REH     WLL     +12 NOW BET ROL......Decr to 1
-------------------------------------------------
BOH     LWL     +11 NOW BET REL
BEL      LWW   +12 NOW BET REH
REL      WWL   +13 NOW BET BEH
BOH     WLW    +14 NOW BET BEL
REH     LWL      +13 NOW BET BEL........Stay at 1
------------------------------------------------
REH     LWL       +12 NOW BET REH
REL     WWL     +13  NOW BET REH
ROL     WLW     +14 NOW BET REL
ROL     WLW     +15 NOW BET ROL
BEH     LLL        +12  NOW BET ROL........Incr to 2
------------------------------------------------
BOH     LWL       +10   NOW BET BOH
ROH     LWW     +12  NOW BET BOH
ROH     LWW     +14 NOW BET ROH
BOL     LWL       +12   NOW BET ROH
BEH     LLW       +10   NOW BET BOH......Incr to 3
-------------------------------------------------
ROH     LWW     +13  NOW BET BOH
BEL      WLL      +10  NOW BET BEH
BOH     WLW     +13  NOW BET BOH
ROH     LWW     +16 NOW BET BOH
ROH     LWW     +19 NOW BET ROH.........Decr to 1
--------------------------------------------------
ROH     WWW    +22 NOW BET ROH
ROH     WWW    +25 NOW BET ROH
BEL     LLL         +22 NOW BET ROH
BEH     LLW        +21   NOW BET BEH
ROL     LLL         +18  NOW BET BEL.........Incr to 2
--------------------------------------------------
BEL     WWW     +24 NOW BET BEL
ROH    LLL          +18 NOW BET ROL
BEL     LLW         +16   NOW BET BEL
REL     LWW        +18 NOW BET REL
BEL     LWW        +20 NOW BET BEL........Decr to 1
--------------------------------------------------
BEH     WWL       +21 NOW BET BEL
REL      LWW       +22  NOW BET BEL
BEH     WWL       +23 NOW BET REH
BEH     LWW       +24 NOW BET BEH
BOL     WLL         +23 NOW BET BEH....Stay at 1
--------------------------------------------------
ROL     LLL           +20 NOW BET BOL
ROL     LWW         +21  NOW BET ROL
BEH     LLL            +18  NOW BET ROL
ROH     WWL         +19 NOW BET ROH
ROH     WWW       +22 NOW BET ROH.... Incr to 2
-------------------------------------------------
ROL     WWL         +24 NOW BET ROH
BOH    LWW          +26  NOW BET ROH
ROL     WWL         +28  NOW BET ROL
ROH    WWL         +30  NOW BET ROH
REL    WLL           +28  NOW BET ROL........Decr to 1
---------------------------------------------------
REL    WLW          +29 NOW BET REL
BEH    LWL           +28 NOW BET REL
BEL    LWW          +29 NOW BET BEL
BOH   WLL            +28 NOW BET BEH
ROH   LLW            +27 NOW BET BOH.......Incr to 2
---------------------------------------------------
BOL    WWL          +29 NOW BET BOH
REL    LLL             +23 NOW BET ROL
BEL   LLW             +21 NOW BET BEL
BEL   WWW          +27 NOW BET BEL
BEL   WWW          +33 NOW BET BEL.......Decr to 1
---------------------------------------------------
BOL   WLW           +34 NOW BET BEL
BEL   WWW          +37 NOW BET BEL
REL   LWW            +38 NOW BET BEL
BOH  WLL             +37 NOW BET BEL
REL   LWW            +38 NOW BET REL.......Stay at 1
---------------------------------------------------

Profit = +38 units.

[/reveal]


Results flatbetting:

[reveal=FlatBetting]
BEH
BEL
BEL    first 3 numbers so bet BEL as they are the dominants

REH   -1
REL    +0
BOH   -3
ROH   -2
ROL    -1
ROL    +0
BOL    +1
REH    +0
BEL     -1
BEL     +2
BEH    +3
BEH    +4
ROH    +3
REL     +2
BEH     +3
ROL     +2
BOL     +1
BEH     +0
ROH     -1
BOH    +2
BEH    +3
ROL     +2
BOL     +3
REH     +0
ROL     +3
BEL     +2
BOL     +1
ROH     +0
REH     -3
ROL     -2
ROL     -1
ROL     +2
ROL     +5
REL     +6
REH     +5
BOH     +2
BEL      +3
REL      +2
BOH     +1
REH     +2
REH     +5
REL      +6
ROL      +5
ROL      +6
BEH      +3
BOH      +2
ROH      +3
ROH      +4
BOL      +3
BEH      +2
ROH      +3
BEL      +2
BOH     +3
ROH     +4
ROH     +5
ROH     +8
ROH     +11
BEL      +10
BEH      +9
ROL      +6
BEL       +9
ROH      +6
BEL       +5
REL       +6
BEL        +7
BEH       +8
REL        +9
BEH       +10
BEH       +13
BOL       +12
ROL       +9
ROL       +10
BEH       +7
ROH       +8
ROH       +11
ROL       +12
BOH       +13
ROL       +14
ROH       +15
REL       +14
REL        +15
BEH       +14
BEL        +15
BOH       +14
ROH       +13
BOL        +14
REL        +11
BEL        +10
BEL        +13
BEL        +16
BOL        +17
BEL        +20
REL        +21
BOH       +20
REL        +21

+21u profit
[/reveal]

You can still change and switch to bet the "passive" sides of the EC's (opposite the dominants) if you feel that it may help with this too.

A.

Thanks for the video explanations, gramps...
Which way would you advise playing the 3 EC then on the r.n.g. roulette? The way you showed us originally or the way shown in the video (against the wheel)??
How do you decide which to follow?
Thanks,
A.

I did a quick trial on SLC live auto-roulette.
+11units in 21 spins (flatbetting only for now)
A.

Hi,
Nice topic, GreatGrampa - or are you RouletteExplorer?? eh?  I say that as you have similar writing style to him and he was an 'oldtimer' too... Anyhow, whatever, I like the idea very much and it's a bit like his "everything reversed system".
Will be trying this soon!
Respect - and please keep up the good work along these lines. 
A.

Quote from: TwoCatSam on May 01, 2013, 03:18:39 PM
For example the spun numbers 22, 9, 3, 14 are recorded on a line as:
HOLO (High Odd Low Even)

HOLE?

Thanks, A.

Sam

Good catch Sam. You didn't give me time to correct - but have done so now! 

A.

CONTRASTING COUPLETS  (EC bet)
======================

Record 2 ECs in matrix 4 fashion.

I'm using H/L and O/E alternated.

For example the spun numbers 17, 11, 3, 32 are recorded on a line as:
LOLE (Low Odd Low Even)

For example the spun numbers 22, 9, 3, 14 are recorded on a line as:
HOLE (High Odd Low Even)

It's simple: Play an alternating pattern of "Opp-Same-Opp-Same" (O-S-O-S) and "Same-Opp-Same-Opp" (S-O-S-O) directly against the vertical line column results on the previous line.

Switch the patterns after each line of 4 results.

Start recording the EC and LW Registry results for O-S-O-S first and then switch to S-O-S-O and alternate throughout. (see examples)

Playing and betting rules:
================

RULE#1: Start  betting ONLY after a  previous "WL" result. The "WL" result can be wholly recorded on the current line or made up of a W from the end of the previous line and an L in the first column of the current line.
eg:
LLLW
L*       - bet where asterisk shown (after WL result)
Sometimes there will be no bet on a line eg:
LLLW
WWWL  - no bet on this line (no WL result to indicate a bet on this line)
*             - bet where asterisk shown  (after WL result)

RULE #2:  BET ONCE ONLY PER LINE.

===========================


Example Session 1:

HOLO first line results
LEHE (OSOS)  wlwl       +1   W @ col3
HOHE (SOSO)  lwwl      +0    L @ col1
LEHE (OSOS)  wllw       +1    W @ col1
HOLE (SOSO)  lwwl       +2    W @ col2
LEHE (OSOS)  wlww      +3    W @ col1
HOLE (SOSO)  lwll         +4    W @ col2
HOHE (OSOS) lwww                no bet
HOHE (SOSO) wlwl        +5    W @ col3   
HEHE  (OSOS) lllw         +4    L @ col1   
HOLE  (SOSO) wwll       +3    L @ col4   
HOLO  (OSOS) lwll        +2    L  @ col4
HOLO  (SOSO) wlwl       +3    W @ col3
HELO  (OSOS) lllw         +3     no bet
LOLE   (SOSO) lwww     +4   W  @ col2   
LELO   (OSOS) llll          +3   L @ col2   
LOLE   (SOSO) wwww   +3         no bet
LOLE   (OSOS) lwlw       +4   W @ col4   
HEHE  (SOSO) lwll         +5    W @ col2   
LEHE   (OSOS) wwlw     +6    W @ col4 
LEHE   (SOSO) wlwl       +7    W @ col3   
HOHO  (OSOS) wlll         +8    W @ col1   
HEHE  (SOSO)  wwww    +8       no bet 
LOHE  (OSOS)  wllw        +7   L  @ col3

+7 profit. (high +8)
Flatbetting.

I suggest play on nozero or single 0 with "le partage" rule.

If zero appears in a line - you can either do
A) no betting at all on below line (void) or
B) use the EC above the 0 in that column

Maybe can use to win 3 or so units then skedaddle and relogon for next session.

Session on some numbers Chrisbis posted from a BVNozero session.

Example Session 2:

HOLO
LELE  (OSOS) WLLL         -1 L @ col3
LOLE  (SOSO) WWWL      -1    no bet
LELE  (OSOS) LLLW         -2 L @ col1
LELE  (SOSO) WLWL        -1 W @ col3
HOLE  (OSOS) WLLL       +0  W @ col1
HOLE (SOSO)  WLWL      +1  W @ col3
HOLE (OSOS) LWLW       +0  L  @ col1 
HELO (SOSO) WWWW    +0      no bet
HELO (OSOS) LWLW       +1  W  @ col2
HELO (SOSO) WLWL       +2  W  @ col3
HOLE (OSOS) LLLW         +1  L   @ col1
HOLE (SOSO) WLWL       +2   W  @ col3
LELE  (OSOS) WLLW       +3  W   @ col1
HEHO (SOSO) LLLW        +2  L    @ col2 
HEHO (OSOS) LWLW       +3  W    @ col2
LEHO (SOSO) LLWL         +2  L  @ col2
HOLE (OSOS) WLWL       +3  W  @ col1
LOHE (SOSO) LLLL          +2  L   @ col1 
HOHE (OSOS) WWLW     +3  W  @ col4
HOHO (SOSO) WLWW     +4  W  @ col3
LOHO (OSOS) WWLW     +5  W   @ col4
LELO (SOSO) WWLL       +4  L  @ col4
HELE (OSOS) WWLL       +3  L  @ col4
LOLO (SOSO) LWWW      +3   no bet
LOLE (OSOS) LWLL         +4  W @ col2
HELE (SOSO) LWWL       +4    no bet
HEHO (OSOS) LWWL      +4    no bet
LOLO (SOSO) LWLL        +3   L  @ col1
LEHE (OSOS) LLWL         +3   no bet
LOHE (SOSO) WWWL     +4   W  @ col1
LOHO (OSOS) LWLL        +3   L @ col1
LEHE (SOSO) WWWW    +3   no bet
HELO (OSOS) WWWL     +3   no bet
LELO (SOSO) LLWL         +2  L  @ col1
HOLE (OSOS) WLLL        +3  W  @ col1
LEHO (SOSO) LWLW       +4  W  @ col4
LOLO (OSOS) LLWW       +3  L  @ col2
LOLO (SOSO) WLWL       +4  W @ col3

+4 profit (high +5)
Flatbetting.

Cheers,
Atlantis

Hi JL,
Sorry to hear of your loss experience with the CODE4-H.
I do not play this method any more neither can I recommend it as a system to absolutely 100% pin your faith in. That's why I tried to keep the units down to the minimum as possible to offset any eventual progression bust... Also, sessions can be very lengthy and with few qualifiers... To be honest I strongly feel that your ZONE or CROSSPLAY methodology would pay more dividends especially with the wonderful GLAT (GLC/Atlantis) single doz/col progression I referred you to...
I've tried said money management with a few good dozen systems on the other forum (such as buffalowizards "dozen warfare" and also "harvesting the twelves") and it suits and performs well  - certainly better than CODE4-H at any rate...
With GLAT I just don't see any reason or need to go back to the slightly riskier code4-h way.
Cheers,
A.

Very disappointing and sad to hear that news, Superman....

Hi Superman,
He's probably busy or ill, having a rest or holiday, planning his attack or something.
He did post a day or two ago on Feb 19 in VLS 'scam' thread so he's obviously still around...
A

Enough of this horseplay...
An anagram of "hamburgers" is "Shergar Bum".
'Tesco, everything you want from a store and a little bit mare.'
I selected some burgers on the Tesco website... I then clicked on "add to cart".
You think Tesco Horse Burgers are bad, you should try their Quarter Pandas.
Does anyone have a tooth  pick? I had a Tesco burger last night and there's still a bit between my  teeth.

Q. What do you call a burnt Tesco burger?
A. Black Beauty!

This idea stems from GLC's 2 dozen idea and I have adapted it for single dozen/column play.

Use WIN/LOSS "strings" (W/L)  for the outcomes (max of 6 results per string)

Progression:

Up 1 unit after 5 L's in a row in a string.

Up 1 unit if there are 3 W's in a row in a string.

Up 1 unit if there are 5 L's out of the 6 results in a string.

Up 1 unit if there are 3 W's or more out of the 6 results in a string.

IMPORTANT: Start new w/l record string at each new level of betting.

Suggested stop point:
After a winning string and in new profit.

Recommended stop point:
After 2 consecutive winning strings and in new profit.
After 2 winning strings separated by level string results and in new profit.

[But of course you may stop on any profit during or after the end of a string e.g.: +2; +3....etc...]

Example strings:
LLLLL - 5 L's in a row so up 1 unit and start new string
LLWWW - 3 consecutive w's in a row so up 1 unit and start new string
LWLWLW - 3 out of 6 w's so up 1 unit and start new string
LLWLLW - level so start new string at same unit level
LLLLWW - level so start new string at same unit level
WWW -  3 consecutive w's in a row so up 1 unit and start new string
LLLWLL - 5 out of 6 L's so up 1 unit and start new string
LWWLWW - Over 3 out of 6 w's so up 1 unit and start new string

Real game at SLCasino:

START STRING @ 1 UNIT
WLLWLW         +3   (3 out of 6 W results so increase by 1 UNIT)

NEXT STRING @ 2 UNIT
LWLLLW          +3    (NO CHANGE SO RESUME AT SAME LEVEL)
WWLLLL          +3    (NO CHANGE SO RESUME AT SAME LEVEL)
LLWWW           +11    (3 W's in a row - so immediately UP 1 UNIT) - Or STOP due to 2 winning strings separated only by level result(s)

NEXT STRING @ 3 UNIT
LWLLWL           +11    (NO CHANGE SO RESUME AT SAME LEVEL)
LLWWLW          +20   (3 out of 6 W results - STOP due to 2 winning strings separated only by level result(s) )


+20 IN 35 BETS MADE
==================
Use with your favourite single doz/col selection method (I'm using CrossPlay)

Atlantis.

I think this will turn out to be a a great thread! 

BTW,  "Fortune favors the prepared mind" - a nice byline 

I do so agree with Gizmotron here... Magic, voodoo, superstition - surely we cannot hope to beat the roulette with these.... If we persist with stars in our eyes and our heads in the clouds and attack without due care or rationale then eventually we must endure and suffer the consequences of our oversights and failings as certain as the night follows the day.

Instead, for our own benefit and to experience success in this endeavour, we must attack with out feet firmly planted on the ground armed with the bows and arrows of knowledge, information, technique, logic, reason and certainties. Accepting the truth and with no illusory expectation we must venture on guardedly with a purposeful plan that is not beset with much weakness in order that that overall we can attain to regular and highly prized systematic victories. With that we are strong and successful.

But then that is a very tall order and indeed no small accomplishment. We can but seek and try our best - individually and as a group - such is the purpose of this meeting place.... Who knows what may transpire with the light of intelligent minds all focussing intently upon discovering a reasonable and workable solution to this age-old problem of roulette? If so, and with this powerful impetus and group resolve, could in fact a method be found and forged that might surpass all previous attempts? I wonder?... Or are we doomed to forever go round and round in circles, trying this way and that way again and again and unwittingly not realising that all these paths have been trodden before and that they just simply are a waste of time and will inevitably lead to frustration, despair, sadness and sorrow?

Of course we can expect new attempts and ideas to come upon the scene. These will also surely follow inevitably as well - but always remember the saying that "there is nothing new under the Sun".

Despite all - perhaps still there is within the bounds of credibility that by conceivably combining and unifying the old ideas and facts with the light of new reason and new approaches something could emerge that could form the basis of a stronger weapon to use in the war against roulette.

A. 

Quote from: JohnLegend on January 27, 2013, 08:25:25 AM
But it makes no difference success is success.

Exactly!      The scoffers and naysayers will perhaps never experience the golden dawn of this realisation.

Quote from: Bayes on January 25, 2013, 03:46:18 PM
Thanks Atlantis. Just to clarify, after a loss you continue up the progression, you DON'T wait for another trigger (as per 7-on-1), correct?

Correct.

Quote from: MarignyGrilleau on January 23, 2013, 11:16:02 PM

wiki
"The Gambler's fallacy, also known as the Monte Carlo fallacy (because its most famous example happened in a Monte Carlo Casino in 1913),[1][2] and also referred to as the fallacy of the maturity of chances, is the belief that if deviations from expected behaviour are observed in repeated independent trials of some random process, future deviations in the opposite direction are then more likely."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler's_fallacy

This may not apply or affect some methods (eg: matrix methods) when played H.A.R.

A.