Quote from: Bayes on January 24, 2013, 06:14:24 PM
Atlantis, I haven't read through the whole thread, but just wondered if you've ever lost the progression playing this?

Hi Bayes,
No. But taken to last step (10) twice in around 200 games now. JL has actually played more games than me. Coz of other stuff I haven't actually played/tested for a few days. Can take time to get bet triggers so needs time, patience and discipline...

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Quote from: dino246 on January 23, 2013, 09:45:49 AM

I have only recently played the Vertical-Matrix betting method as per a particular author's instructions and had no stress betting this way as the bet is worked out in advanced.

Provided each session is short then any stress should not kill you !

Hi dino,
I also regularly play a vertical matrix method for low stakes and hit-run and aim for 5-10 points per session.
A.

Hi Robeenhuut,
Put that way is a good point - but that still does not mean that 7on1 is less solid - but then JL will no doubt give us the definitive reason(s) why preferable to switch to later method 
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Quote from: Robeenhuut on January 22, 2013, 06:10:49 AM
What happened to FIVE?  You had 1000+ winning run with that. And it was with 1,3,9,27 progression.

Hi Robeenhuut,
FIVE was superceded by 7on1 and was born out of it and is a lot easier to understand and track (and code). JL thought it superior as well, so that explains why FIVE was put on the back burner due to the testing and playing being switched to the 7on1 method.
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Here are results of a session just now at SLC.
I have not shown the no-bets or the dozens which were betted.
The * are the points when session can be exited. I prefer +3 to end a session.
I played on so you can see the progression in operation.
Highest bet = 3

H7 RESULTS
==========
L-1                -1
W+2             +1
W+2             +3*
L-1               +2
L-1               +1
L-1               +0
W+2             +2
L-1               +1
L-1               +0
W+2             +2
L-1               +1
L-1               +0
W+2             +2
L-1               +1
W+2             +3*
W+2             +5*
L-1               +4*
L-1               +3*
L-1               +2
L-1               +1
W+2             +3*
L-1               +2
L-1               +1
L-1               +0
L-2               -2
L-2               -4
L-2               -6
L-2               -8
L-2               -10
L-3               -13
W+6             -7
W+4             -3
W+4             +1
L-2               -1  (ZERO)
W+4            +3*
L-1              +2
W+4            +6*

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HEAVEN SEVEN (a single dozen strategy)
==========================
Author:  Atlantis

Hello forumsters!

I revisited this system today and it seemed going quite well using the progression below.

Here I share with you the slightly revised FULL rules with example:

Single 0.
Real numbers.

Have not tried on NoZero but obviously that could be logically better...?

I track a line of 7 DOZEN results (ignore 0) until I have seven latest results where ALL THREE DOZENS are present and where there is ONLY ONE DOZEN that has hit ONCE only.

e.g.: 1 1 3 2 1 3 1 (Doz 2 qualifies as the lowest scorer)

I bet that qualifying dozen using the progression

1-1-1-1-1-2-2-2-2-2-3-3-3-3-3-4-4-4-4-4.....etc.

I know some of you might prefer a different idea of progression or have an even better idea on this - so please share if you do have a suggestion or two.

After a win I reset to the start of the progression line when level or ahead of current highest total.
After a win and if I am still behind the current recorded high - then I go back TWO places in the progression string and resume from there on the next qualifier.

IMPORTANT:

***I bet it using the progression until a win happens OR until it drops off the list/string of 7 dozen results!***

If it wins - that's fine  - I stop betting and search for next qualifier - but once it disappears out of my cycle of 7 doz results - I STOP BETTING IT.
I then search for the next qualifier and continue the betting from the next stage of the progression.

It's possible a dozen can requalify once it reappears  - by being the latest doz to hit and having been the only dozen to hit ONCE only in the last 7 recorded doz.

It's also possible that after stopping betting on one particular dozen that another dozen can immediately qualify to be bet - as long as it fulfils the criteria of being the SOLE dozen to hit once only in the last recorded 7 spins. But in each case all three dozens must be present in the 7-Line before it is qualified bet.

I always keep track of the LAST SEVEN doz results at all times (ignore 0)

If win: I consult the last 7 results for next qualifier.
If no qualifier I continue recording until one occurs.

I bet the qualifier at the appropriate stake level.

Example
1 3 3 2 3 2 3 (dozen 1 qualifies - but can only be bet ONCE)
Example
1 2 1 2 3 2 2 (dozen 3 qualifies - but will only be bet up to a max of 5 times)
Example
3 1 3 2 2 3 2 (dozen 1 qualifies - but will only ever be bet for a max of 2 times)

I'm always using the last 7 recorded results to determine the next dozen to bet.
(ie. a rolling list of seven where the earliest doz drops off the list as the new one is added to the end)

Just clarifying an important rule to remember:
After stopping a betting attack because of a win or stopping an attack due to the qualifying dozen dropping out of the line I will not restart the (next) attack until I have checked the current 7-LINE and can see that all dozens are present and that just one of the dozens has hit ONCE ONLY. That only is the trigger/sign to bet. For instance:

1112111 - Doz 2 has hit once but it is a NO BET because Doz 3 is not present in the 7-line

1211311 - Doz 2 and Doz 3 both hit once only in the 7-Line - so it is a NO BET.

1323313 - Doz 2 is only doz to hit once so since all 3 dozens present it is a qualified BET (max 3 spins in this case)

How to play example:


LAST 7 DOZ   Betting                    Results
=========   ======================
1 2 1 2 3 2 2 (7 numbers featuring all dozens and doz 3 has hit ONCE only)
1 2 1 2 3 2 2  Bet 1u on DOZ3 - #11 hits LOST1                                   -1
2 1 2 3 2 2 1  Bet 1u on DOZ3 - #29 hits WON2                                   +1 *Reset
1 2 3 2 2 1 3  No Bet - #5 hits
2 3 2 2 1 3 1  No Bet - #12 hits
3 2 2 1 3 1 1  No Bet - #17 hits
2 2 1 3 1 1 2  Bet 1u on DOZ3 - #0 hits LOST1                                      +0
2 2 1 3 1 1 2  Bet 1u on DOZ3 - #9 hits LOST1                                      -1
2 1 3 1 1 2 1  Bet 1u on DOZ3 - #7 hits LOST1                                      -2
1 3 1 1 2 1 1  Bet 1u on DOZ3 - #30 hits WON2                                     +0 *behind so start at 2nd bet of 1
3 1 1 2 1 1 3  Bet 1u on DOZ2 - #31 hits LOST1                                     -1
1 1 2 1 1 3 3  Bet 1u on DOZ2 - #14 hits WON2                                     +1 *level so reset to start
1 2 1 1 3 3 2  No Bet - #36 hits
2 1 1 3 3 2 3  No Bet - #4 hits
1 1 3 3 2 3 1  Bet 1u on DOZ2 - #23 hits WON2                                     +3  *ahead so reset to start
1 3 3 2 3 1 2  No Bet - #3 hits
3 3 2 3 1 2 1  No Bet - #2 hits
3 2 3 1 2 1 1  No Bet - #13 hits
2 3 1 2 1 1 2  Bet 1u on DOZ3 - #16 hits LOST1                                     +2
3 1 2 1 1 2 2  Bet 1u on DOZ3 - #19 hits LOST1                                     +1
1 2 1 1 2 2 2  No Bet - #32 hits
2 1 1 2 2 2 3  Bet 1u on DOZ3 - #26 hits WON2                                      +3 *level so reset to start
1 1 2 2 2 3 3  No Bet


+3 in 22 spins. (12 bets; 5L - 7W)
Highest bet = 1u

Session Target = 3u
(Hit 'n' run)

To get even more bets; and maybe more profitzzz;  you can apply to the columns as well. 

Have fun and hope it goes well for you. Oh - but don't forget to let me know anyhow...
(Yes - of course the usual bit of voodoo thrown in with this one for those who like that     )

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Hi soggett,

Glad you like the code2-h for EC way...
I like it coz its easy to track and play with no big progressions.
Here is session I played on some dublinbet table actuals:

HE
HE L
LO
HE
LE
LE L
HO
LE
HE
LE
H0 (zero)
HE
LO
LE W+1
LE L
HE
LE
LE L
HE
LO
LE W+1
LE L
LE L
LE L-1
LE L-1
LO W+2
LE W
LE L
LO W
LE W
LE L
HO
HO L
LO
LE W+1
LO W
LE W
LE L
HO
LO
LE W
LE L
HE
HE L
HO W+1
LO
LO L
HO
HE W
LO
LE W
LO W
LE W
HO
LE
LE L
HE
HO W
LO
LE W
HE
HE L
LE
LO W
LE W
HE
LO
HO
HO L
HE W
LE
HO
HO L
LO
HO
HO L
LE
LE L-1
LE L-1
HO
LE
LO W+2
LO L
LE W
LE L
HO
LE
LO W
HE
HO W
LE
HE
LE
HE
L0 (zero)
HE
HE L
HE L
LO
HE
HO W+1
HO L
HE W
HO W
LO
LE W
LO W
HO
LO
HE
HO W
LO
LE W
HE
LO
HO
LE
HE
HO W
HE W
HO W
LO
LO L
LE W
LE L
HO
HO L
L0 (zero)
LO
HO
LE
LO W+1
LE W
HE
HO W
HE W
LE
LE L
HO
LE
HO
LE
LO W
LO L
HO
LE
HE
LO
LE W
LO W
LO L
HO
LE
LE L
LE L-1
HE
HO W+1
HE W
LE
HE
LE
HE
HE L
H0 (zero)
HO
HE W
LO
HE
LE
LE L
HO
L0 (zero)
LE
LE L
LE L-1
HE
HO W+1
HO L
LE
LE L
LO W+1 

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Just confirming with JL in regard to CODE4-H...


Record sequences of 4 results in the format doz/col/doz/col
For example if the last 4 numbers were 16,19,3,28 then you record:

2a1a

Once you have recorded a line of 4 numbers like that you compare the first two elements (couplets) of the line with the last two pair of results on the line and if they match horizontally you record a "w". If they don't match you record an "L"

So you get:

2a1a  Lw   (the 2 and 1 do not match so it is a L; the column a's do match so that is classed as a w - win)

You build up your matrix with lines of 4 results eg:

2a1a Lw
3b1c LL
2b2b wW

When you get a situation where you have recorded 6 L's over 3 consecutive lines

LL
LL
LL

it is time to begin the progression:

2b3c LL
1a3b LL
2c3a LL - trigger to begin betting for a matching couplet on the next line eg:


2b3c LL
1a3b LL
2c3a LL -----six L's trigger
1a--------------------begin to bet now for match of doz1 then next spin bet for match on column a - BUT always stop at a winner on the line.

I use a 10-step progression: 1-1-1-2-3-5-7-11-16-25 = 72u

Example:

1a3c LL
1a2b LL
2b1c LL   TRIGGER
2c2c w+2; w            +2
3b1a LL
1c2b LL
3c2a LL    TRIGGER
1c1c w+2 w             +4
1a1b w L
3c2c L w
3c1b LL
2c3a LL
3a2b LL     TRIGGER
3b1a L-1 L-1
2c2c w+2 w             +4

Hey JL, Looking forward to codev5!   

Atlantis.

Here is demonstrated same idea reduced to a CODE 2:
Play after 2 virtual L's in a row...

Bet patterns:

HE
H?---bet O

HO
H?---bet E

LE
L?---bet O

LO
L?---bet E

Progression: 1-1-2 (reset)

HE
LE
HO
LO
LE
HE
LE
HO
HO   L
LE
LO    w
HE
LO
LO    L
LE
HE
LE
HO
HO   L         trigger
HO   L-1     
HE   w+1                              +0
HO   w
LO
LO    L
LE    w
LE    L
HE
LE
LE    L        trigger
HE
HO   w+1                             +1
LE
LO    w
LE    w
HE
HO    w
LE
HO
HO    L
HO    L        trigger
HO    L-1                            +0
LE
LE     L-1                            -1
HE
HO    w+2                           +1
LE
LE     L
LE     L        trigger
LO     w+1                          +2
HE
HO    w
LE
LO    w
HE
HO    w
HO    L
LE
LE     L        trigger
LO     w+1                           +3
LE     w
LE     L
HO
LO
HE
HE    L        trigger
HO    w+1                           +4
HO    L
HE    w
LO
LE    w
HO
HE    w
LO
HO
LE
LO    w
HO
LE
LO    w
HO
HO    L
LO
HE
HO    w
LO
HO
HO    L
LO
HE
LO
HO
LE
LO    w
LE     w
LE      L
LE      L        trigger
HE
LO
HE
LE
LE     L-1                         +3
LE     L-1                         +2
HE
HO    w+2                        +4
LO
HO
LO
HO
HO    L
LE
LO    w
LO    L
LE
LO    w
LO    L
LE    w
HE
LO
HO
HO   L
LE
HO
HO   L          trigger
LE
LE   L-1                         +3
HE
LO
HO
HE   w+1                        +4
HE   L
HE   L          trigger
HE   L-1
HO   w+1                        +4
HO   L
HO   L         trigger
LO
LE   w+1                         +5
LE    L
LE    L         trigger
HO
HO   L-1                         +4
HE   w+1                        +5
LE
LE   L
LO  w
HE
HE   L
LE
LO   w
LO   L
LE   w
LO   w

+5

===================

HE
LE
HO
LO
LE
HE
LE
HO
HO    L
LE
LO    w
HE
LO
LO    L
LE
HE
LE
HO
HO   L              trigger
HO   L-1                -1
HE    w+1              +0
HO   w
LO
LO    L
LE    w
LE    L
HE
LE
LE    L
HE
HO   w+1
LE
LO    w
LE    w
HE
HO    w
LE
HO
HO    L
HO    L              trigger
HO    L-1              -1
LE
LE     L-1              -2
HE
HO    w+2             +0
LE
LE     L
LE     L              trigger
LO    w+1             +1
HE
HO   w
LE
LO    w
HE
HO    w
HO    L
LE
LE     L             trigger
LO    w+1             +2   
LE
LE    L
HO
LO
HE
HE    L             trigger
HO    w+1             +3
HO    L
HE    w
LO
LE    w
HO
HE    w
LO
HO
LE
LO    w
HO
LE
LO    w
HO
HO    L
LO
HE
HO
LO
HO
HO    L             trigger
LO
HE
LO
HO
LE
LO    w+1              +4
LE    w
LE    L
LE    L                trigger
HE
LO
HE
LE
LE    L-1               +3
LE    L-1               +2
HE
HO   w+2              +4
LO
HO
LO
HO
HO   L
LE
LO   w
LO   L
LE   w
LO   w
LO   L
LE   w
HE
LO
HO
HO   L
LE
HO
HO   L              trigger
LE
LE   L-1                +3
HE
LO
HO
HE   w+1               +4
HE   L
HE   L                trigger
HE   L-1                +3
HO   w+1              +4
HO   L
HO   L                trigger
LO
LE    w+1               +5
LE 
LE    L
HO
HO    L               trigger
HE
LE
LE    L-1                +4
LO   w+1               +5
HE
HE   L
LE
LO   w
LO   L
LE   w
LO  w

+5

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Simple code4-h on EC (h/l and o/e) result for 13 JAN

HEHO
LOLO     L  -1
LELE      L  -2
HELE
LOHE
HOLE
LOLE     W +0
HEHO     W +1
LEHO
HOHO    L  +0
HOLE
LEHE
HOLE
LELE      L  -1
LOHE
HELE
LOHE
HOHO     L -3
LELE       L  -4
LOLE      W  -3
LEHO
LOHE
HEHO     W -2
HOHE     W -1
LOLE      W +0
HOHE      W +1
LOHO
LELO      W  +2
HOLE
LOHO
HOLO
HEHO     W +3
LOHO
HOLO
HELE
HOLE
LOLE      W  +4
LELE       L   +3
HELO
HELO
LELE       L  +2
HEHO      W  +4
LOHO
LOHO
HOLE
LOLO      L  +3
LELO      W  +4
LOLE      W  +5
LELO      W  +6
HOHO     L    +5
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Ophis request sounds like a very good idea to me.
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Quote from: JohnLegend on January 13, 2013, 11:22:46 AM
No TC that was step 2 of the 5 step progression. I've never had to go to the 5th step yet in 930 games.

Correct - and of course there are other double doz progressions mentioned elsewhere that *could* be utilised instead of the total 242 risk...

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Hi soggett,
JL and myself are playing it as described in this post. (John uses a slightly different 10-step progression to mine)
http://betselection.cc/dozencolumn/code-4-horizontal/msg6128/#msg6128

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Thanks JL for the reveal of this method.
Perfectly understood. Like similar event triggers this cool creative concept will require patience, concentration, determination and rigidly playing exactly by the rules in order to thwart random. The benefit and reward for the time and effort expended will be a consistent trickle of winning profits that slowly amasses over a period into a healthy, formidable and positive profit balance that in time will enable higher staking for even higher returns out of the growing bankroll. I think it's a gem that should not be dismissed lightly.
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Quote from: JohnLegend on January 12, 2013, 01:06:23 PM
RESULTS UPDATE FOR CODE 4 *HORIZONTAL* FOR 12/01/2013

TOTAL GAMES PLAYED 250

TOTAL GAMES WON 250

TOTAL GAMES LOST ZERO

STRIKERATE 250/0

BALANCE 458 UNITS PLUS

LONGEST WAIT FOR A WINNER STEP 7 OF THE PROGRESSION...

Thanks JL for the results update of the CODE4-H ORIGINAL. Impressive. 458u is a nice 'n' tidy profit and you can be sure I'll be playing more games soon and reporting back on my progress...

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