Quote from: Nickmsi on January 11, 2013, 08:00:34 PM
I like Sogget's name for Atlantis's simple Code 4 Horizontal on EC's.

Attached is "HOHO" Tracker/Tester for all those interested in testing this method further.

You can play this Manually by simply choosing the "Manual" sheet in the lower left corner of Excel or you can use the RNG sheet for quickly testing various Profit Targets and Stop Loss as well as changing the Progressions Levels.

Cheers . . .

Nick & Stef (2 wild and crazy Excel guys)

Thanks to the "excel guys" for this fun and handy tracker with the various options.
A.

SIMPLE CODE4-H on EC's
================

In its simplest form applied to even chances...

I use H/L and O/E

QUALIFYING PATTERNS:

HOH ?  = bet E
LOL ?  =  bet E
HEH ?  = bet O
LEL ? =   bet O

Progression: 1-1-2 (reset)

             
H O H E    w +1
L O L E     w +2
L O L O     L +1
H O L O
L E H E 
H O L O 
L O H O
H O L O
L E L E      L +0
L E H O 
H O H E     w +2
L O H O
H O H O     L +1
L O H E 
L E H E 
L O H O
H E L O 
L E H O
L O H O 
L O L O      L +0
H E H O
L E L O       w +2
H E H O      L  +1
H O L O
H E H E       L  +0
H O L O
H E L E 
L O H E 
L O H E   
L E H E 
H O L O 
L O H O 
H E H O       w +2
H O L E   
L E H E 
H O H E       w +3
L O H O 
H O L E   
L O L E        w +4

==================

HOHO           L -1
LOHO   
LEHO 
HELO 
LELO            w +0
LEHE   
HOHE           w +1
HEHO           w +2
HELE   
LELE            L +1
HOLE   
HELE   
HEHE           L +0
HELE   
HELO   
LEHO 
LELO           w  +2
HOLE   
HELO   
LOLE           w +3
HOLE   
LOHE 
LOHE   
HEHO          w +4
LEHO 
HOHE          w +5
HOLO   
HEHE           L +4
LELE            L +3
HOLO   
HOHE           w +5
HOHO           L +4
LOLO            L +3
LOHE   
LOLO            L +1
LOLE            w +2
LELE             L +1
HOHE            w +2
HELE     
HELO     
HOHE            w +3
LOLO            L +2
LOLE            w +3
LELO            w +4
HOLE     
HEHO           w +5
LELO            w +6
HEHE            L +5
HELE     
LELO            w +6
LOHO     
LOHE     
LOLO            L +5
HEHE            L +4
LEHO     

==================

HEHE             L-1
HOLO
HELE
LEHO
HELO
LEHO
LEHE
LEHE
HELE
LOLE            w +0
LELE              L-1
HELE
LOHE
LELO            w  +0
HOHE           w +1
HELO
LELO            w +2
HOLO
HELO
HELO
LEHO
HOHE           w +3
HELO
LOHO
LEHE
LOLE           w +4
LEHE
LEHO
LEHO
HOLO
LOHO
HOLE
LOHO
LEHE
LOHO
LEHO
HOHO           L +3
LOHO
HOLO
LELE             L +2
HEHE            L +0
HELO
LEHO
LELO            w +1
LEHE
LELE             L  +0
HELO
HEHO            w +1
LOHE
LEHO
HEHO            w +2
HELO
LOLO             L +1
LELO             w +2
LEHE
LOHO
LOLO             L +1
HOLE
LOHE
HELE

In above examples
max run of L's = 3
max run of w's = 5

Quit when a few points ahead eg: +2 or +3...

A.

Here is my latest test of CODE4-H (using skakus reverse idea; double dozen)

A.

PS. Mistake in file - reposted.

Quote from: JohnLegend on January 08, 2013, 03:58:39 PM
7 On 1 is coming on Saturday Atlantis. Victor is designing me a tracker for it. that's why I've held off. He told me the tracker will be ready within this month.

I already play CODE 4 H and CODE V5 together Atlantis. If anyone can read between the lines and forge something even better. Its you Atlantis or possibly AMK. You are both brilliant testers and morphers of promising ideas.

I owe alot to both of you.

Ok. Good. In that case I will wait for you to post the CODEV5 and help in the testing.
A.

Hi JL,
Good news about 7on1. You should post that system here too.
Yes I will also still play CODE4-H. I sure do believe it can be profitable alright - in either of its two current forms!
If they both use the same amk alternation then maybe we can fuse CODE4-H and CODEV5, get more bets by playing them both together?
I'm lookin forward to the reveal of your system. 

A.

Quote from: JohnLegend on January 08, 2013, 01:40:43 PM
Atlantis, I think its time for me to reveal CODE V5. I think it's a virtual H.A.R GRAIL. Inspired by CODE 4 HORIZONTAL. And of course AMKs brilliant alternating concept. its back to the VERTICAL.

BUT in a different way. Its early days yet. But I have played 120 games and never been past step 3 of a 4 step progression. Classic 1.3.9.27.

I will present it later. Your idea to play only the second half of a four spin line makes all the difference. Delaying random breaks its flow. That's what CODE V5 does.

Hi JL,

It's great you've been watching these ideas and I am very pleased indeed if they have helped in any way towards the formula and creation of your "CODEV5".
I'll look forward to seeing it on the forum soon.

Best regards,
A.

Hi,

After some more testing and discouraging results obtained I have deleted the post referring to the alternate concept idea with the "cyclic bet" and instead returned to the original idea.

However, skakus came up with interesting idea on the other forum which is to bet on the reverse of a match occuring on the column after a horizontal match on the dozen...

Here are my results using a GAME TRIGGER line where horizontal matching dozen and column occur
eg   3a3a
eg   2c2c

Then bet AGAINST a matching column occurring after a horizontal matching dozen on the same line

eg   1b1 ?    - bet against column b
eg   2a2 ?    - bet against column a

Here I use double dozen progression

1-1
2-2
3-3
4-4
.........etc.....

Example
=====

1a3c l l
1a2b l l
2b1c l l 
2c2c ww trigger
3b1a l l
1c2b l l
3c2a l l 
1c1c ww L1-1               -2
2c3a l l
1c2b l l
3a3c w l  w2-2              +0
2b1a l l
2a2a w w trigger
2a2c w l   w1-1              +1 
1a3c l l
1c2c l w
2c3a l l
2c3a l l
2b1a l l
3b3a wl                 
1c1c ww trigger
1c2a l l
2a2a w w L1-1              -1
2b2c w l   w2-2             +1
2c3a l l
1c1b w l 
3c2b l l
2a3a l w
1b2a l l
2a2b w l   
1b1b w w trigger         
2b3c l l
3b1b l w
2c1c l w
3b3c w l w1-1               +2   
2b1c l l
1c1a w l     
3a1a l w
3c2a l l
2a3c l l
3a3c w l   
1a1b w l         
3c2c l w
3c1b l l
2c3a l l
3a2b l l
3b1a l l
2c2c w w  trigger             
2a2c w l     w1-1           +3
2a1a l w
1b2a l l
2a1b l l
3b2b l l
3a2a l w
2a1b l l
3a2c l l
2a1c l l
1c3c l w
1b2c l l
3c3c ww  trigger
2b3a l l
3c2b l l
3c2c l w
2a2b w l   w1-1             +4 
3a1a l w
3a1b l l
1c3a l l
1a3c l l
3c1b l l
2b3c l l
1c1c w w trigger
1a1b w l   w1-1             +5   
3b3b w w trigger
3a3b w l   w1-1             +6 
1b3b l w
1a3b l l
3c3a w l     
2c3c l w   
2a2a w w  trigger 
1c2b l w
3b2b l w
3a2c l l
1b1a w l  w1-1              +7     
2a1c l l
1c1c w w  trigger
1c3c l w
1a1b w l   w1-1             +8     
1b1b w w  trigger
1a2b l l
1a2b l l
2b1c l l 
1c1c ww  L1-1              +6
3c1b l l
1b2c l l
3c2c l l
1c2c lw
2a1b l l
1a3b l l
2b3b l w   
2c2a w l   w2-2              +8         
3b3c w l       
1c2a l l
3c1b l l
1c2a l l
2a2c wl
2c2a wl                         
2a2a ww  trigger                     
2c1c l w
2a2b w l   w1-1              +9         
2a1a l w
3a2a l w
2b3c l l
2a3b l l
2b1b l w
3b2a l l
1c1b w w  trigger     
2a1a l w
1a1c w l    w1-1             +10
1c3a l l
1c2c l w
2c1c l w
1b2b l w
3a1b l l
2a3b l l
3a2a l w
3c2a l l
2c3b l l
1b3a l l
1b1a w l     
2b2b ww  trigger
2a1b l l
1b1a w l    w1-1              +11       
2b1c l l
1b2b l w
2a3c l l
1c2a l l
3a3c w l         
1c2c l w
1a3c l l
2b3b l w
1b1b w w  trigger   
1a2a l w
2a2c w l    w1-1              +12     
2b1a l l
3c2a l l
1a2c l l
2a1a l w
3c1c l w
1a2c l l
1b2b l w
3a3c w l       
2b3c l l
1b2c l l
3a2c l l
3b1a l l
1c3a l l
3a1a l w
1a3b l l
1a2a l w
2a2b w l         
2c1c l w
1a2b l l
1c3b l l
2b1a l l
2c1a l l
1b2b l w
3c1b l l
3b2b l w
2a1b l l
1a2a l w
1c3b l l
2a1b l l
1b3c l l
3c1b l l
1c3c l w
1c2c l w
2b2b ww trigger             
1a2a l w
1b3a l l
2b3b l w
3a2b l l
1b1b w w L1-1                +10
1c3a l l
2b3c l l
2b3a l l 
3a2c l l
3c1c l w               
2c1c l w
2a2a ww L2-2                  +6
1b2a l l
3a3c wl   w3-3                 +9   (down to 2-2)           
2b2a w l           
3c3b w l             
1c2a l l
2a2c w l                         
2a2c w l                             
2b1c l l
2b3a l l
2c3a l l
2b1b l w               
1a3c l l
2b3a l l
2a1b l l
3a1b l l
3a3a w w trigger             
3a3a w w L2-2               +5
1c2b l l
3c3a w l  w3-3                +8   (down to 2-2)           
3a3b w l             
1c1b w l             
1b1a w l             
1a3c l l
3b2a l l
3b3c w l                                 
2c3a l l
3c1b l l
1c3a l l
1a3a l w               
2c2a w l             
3a2b l l
3a3b w l                           
2c3a l l
1b3c l l
2b1c l l
1b1c w l             
3c1c l w
2a1b l l
1b3a l l
2c3c l w
2c3a l l
1b3b l w
1b3a l l
2c3c l w
1b3b l w
3a3b w l             
1b1b ww trigger       
1a3b l l
1a1b w l  w2-2               +10             
2c3b l l
1b3a l l
1b1a w l                 
2a1a l w
1c2a l l
3a2c l l
2a3b l l
2a1a l w
3b2a l l
3c1c l w
2a2b w l           
3b1c l l
3c2a l l
3c1c l w               
2b3b l w
3c2c l l
3c2a l l
3b2c l l
3b3a w l     
3a3b w l             
2a2c w l             
2c1a l l
3c3b w l             
2a1c l l
1b2a l l
3b1b l w
2b3a l l
1b1c w l             
1a3c l l
2b1b l w
3b1b l w
1a3a l w
2a1c l l
1c3a l l
1c2c l w             
1a1c w l             
3b1c l l
3a1c l l
2a2a ww trigger                           
1b1c w l               
3a2a l w
2b2b w w  L2-2           
3a3a w w  L3-3
1c1a w l    w4-4               +4  (stay at 3-3)               
2b3a l l
3b1a l l
3b1b l w
3b1b l w
3b1c l l
3c1c l w
1a1c w l               
3c3c w w trigger           
1a2a l w
1b1c w l   w3-3                +7  (stay at 3-3)           
1a1b w l             
2c3a l l
2a2c w l                           
3a1b l l
1c3a l l
2c2a w l                                   
2c2a w l             
2b1c l l
1a1c w l             
2c3a l l
2b2b w w trigger           
3b1b l w
2b3c l l
1c1a w l  w3-3                 +10  (stay at 3-3) 
3a2b l l
1b3b l w
1c3c l w
3c2b l l
3a2a l w
3c2c l w
1b1a w l
1a2b l l
1c3b l l
1b2a l l
2a2a ww trigger     
3c3a w l w3-3                 +13 (down to 1-1)
1a3a l w
1b2c l l
1c3b l l
3a3c w l
3c3a w l
2b3a l l
3c2a l l
3c1b l l
1a2c l l
2b1a l l
1b1a w l                             
1a1a ww trigger     
2a1c l l
3c1c l w
3c3c w w  L1-1
3c3c w w L2-2
1a3c l l
3a2a l w
2c1a l l
2a2c w l w3-3              +10 (stay at 3-3)
1c2b l l
1b3a l l
3b2a l l
1a3b l l
1a2a l w                     
2b1a l l
1a3c l l
1a2a l w
2c3a l l
3c3c ww trigger
2c1a l l
2b2b w w L3-3
1c1a w l   w4-4            +8  (stay at 4-4)
2c3b l l
3c2c l w
3b2a l l
2c3c l w
1a3a l w
1c1b w l
1b2b l w
2c2b w l
3a3a w w  trigger             
1b3a l l
1b1c w l  w4-4             +12
1a3a l w
3b3b w w  trigger
1c1b w l  w4-4             +16  (down to 1-1)
3a2b l l
3c3c w w trigger
3c3c w w  L1-1             +14
2b3a l l
3b2c l l
1a2c l l
1a1c wl  w2-2               +16   (down to 1-1)     
1a1a ww trigger
2c1c l w
1b2a l l
3a3c w l  w1-1               +17 (stay at 1-1)
1b3c l l
3c3c l l
2b2b w w  trigger                   
1b3a l l
2a1a l w
1c1c w w L1-1
3b1a l l
2a3b l l
1c3b l l
3c1c l l                     
3c1c l w
1b2c l l
2b3c l l
3a1c l l                 
3c2a l l
2a1b l l
1b3b l w                   
3c2a l l
3c1b l l
3b3b ww L2-2
2b2a w l  w3-3              +14 (stay at 3-3)
3a2b l l
2c2c w w trigger
1a2a l w
2b3b l w
1b1c w l  w3-3              +17 (down to 1-1)
1c3a l l
1b3c l l
1a1c lw
3b2b l w
2b2c w l
2c1b l l
2a1a l w
2c1b l l
3c3a w l
3a2b l l
1b3a l l
1c2a l l
3b1b l l                                 
3b1b l w
2c3a l l
2c3c l w
1c1c ww trigger     
3c2a l l
1c1a w l  w1-1               +18
3b3b w w trigger
2b3c l l
2c3b l l
3c3b w l  w1-1               +19
1a1c w l
3b1c l l
2b3c l l
1b3a l l
2b3c l l
2a2a ww trigger                 
1b3c l l
1b3a l l
2b3b l w
1b1c w l  w1-1               +20
1a3c l l
1b1c w l
2a2c w l
1b1b w w  trigger         
2c2b w l    w1-1              +21
1b3b l w
3b3c w l
2b1b l w
2a3c l l
3c2a l l
1a3a lw
3a2b l l
3a1c l l
2b3b l w
2c1a l l
1b1b w w trigger
3c1a l l
1b1a w l   w1-1                +22
2b3a l l
2a3a l w
3a2a l w
1c1a w l
1a1c w l
2c2c w w  trigger           
2a1c l l
1c1c w w  L1-1
2b2b w w  L2-2
3a2a l w
1b1c w l   w3-3               +19 (up to 3-3)
3a3c w l
1a1c w l
3b2c l l
2a1c l l
3b3a w l                       
3b3b w w  trigger           
3a1c l l
3a2a l w
3c2c l w
3c3a w l
2a3a l w
3b3a w l  w3-3                +22 (down to 1-1)
1c3a l l
3b1c l l
1b3c l l
3b2a l l
1b3a l l
1a2b l l
2c3c l w                   
2c3c l l
2b1a l l
2c3c l w
1b2c l l
3a2c l l
3b2c l l
3a1b l l
1a3b l l
3a2a l w                       
2a3b l l
1c2c l w
1b3b l w
2b1a l l
1b1a w l
2c2b w l           
3a2a l w
1a2b l l
1b3b l w
2c2b w l           
3a1c l l
1c2a l l
1a1a w w trigger                       
1a1a w w L1-1
3a3c w l  w2-2                +22
3a3b w l
1b2b l w
2b3a l l
3a3c w l
2c1a l l
1c3b l l
3a1b l l
3c3c ww trigger                   
2b2b w w L1-1
2a3b l l
2a3c l l
1a2a l w                           
1c2b l l
3a2c l l
2b1a l l
2c2c ww L2-2                       
2a2b w l  w3-3                 +19  (up to 3-3)
2c2b w l
2c1a l l
1c2b l l
3b3b w w trigger
2c2b w l  w3-3                +22  (down to 1-1)
1c1c w w trigger
2a2c w l  w1-1                +23
3a3a w w trigger
2c3c l w
2c3b l l
1b2a l l
1a2a l w
2c2c w w L1-1
1b2a l l
3b1c l l
2a1b l l
2a3b l l
1a3b l l
3b2b l w                     
2b3b l w
2c2a w l w2-2                 +23
3a2c l l
3c2b l l
2a2b w l   
2b1c l l
1b3a l l
3b1c l l
1b2c l l
1c1b w l                           
3c1c l w
3c1b l l
1a3a l w
1c2c l w
1b1c w l             
2c2a w l           
3b1a l l
3a2a l w
1a1a w w trigger           
2a2a w w L1-1
3b1c l l
2b2a w l  w2-2                 +23
3c1b l l
3c3b w l
2c2c w w trigger
2c2c w w  L1-1
2b1a l l
1c3a l l
2b1a l l
1b1a w l   w2-2                 +23
1b3a l l
1a2c l l
2c2c ww trigger
2c3a l l
1a3b l l
3b1a l l
1b2a l l
3c3b w l   w1-1                 +24                           
3c2b w l
1c2b l l
1a2c l l
1a1b w l 
2b3b l w
2a3a l w
1c2b l l
1b1b w w trigger     
1b2c l l
2a2b w l  w1-1                   +25
3a3c w l
1b1c w l
1c1a w l             
3c2c l w
2b1a l l
3b1c l l
2b3c l l
2c1b l l
2b1b l w                       
3b3b w w  trigger     
3c2a l l
1b2a l l
3a2a l w
1c3b l l
1b1b ww  L1-1
1b3b l w
2b1b l w
1a1a w w L2-2
2c1c l w
2c1c l w
2b2a w l  w3-3                   +22  (up to 3-3)
1b2b l w
3b2a l l
3a2b l l
3c3b w l
1c3b l l
1b1a w l
2b1a l l
2c1a l l
2c1c l w       
2c1c l w
3b2c l l
3a3c w l                 
1b2b l w
1b2a l l
2a3b l l
3c3b w l               
2b1a l l
2b3b l w
3a2b l l
1c2b l l
3a2c l l
2c3b l l
1a2a l w                         
3b3b ww trigger           
1b1c w l   w3-3                  +25  (down to 1-1)
2c3b l l
1a2c l l
1c1c w w trigger
1b3a l l
3c1c l w
3c1b l l
3b1b l w
1c1b w l   w1-1                   +26
2a2c w l
2c1a l l
3b1b l w
3c1b l l
2c1c l w
1b2b l w
1c3c l w
1a3b l l
3b3b w w trigger
1a3b l l
3c2b l l
1b2b l w                       
1b2b l w
1a2b l l
3a2b l l
1b2b l w
3b2c l l
3c3a w l   w1-1                   +27
3c2b l l
2a3a l w
1a2a l w
1a1b w l
1a3b l l
3b2b l w
2c2b w l
1a2c l l
1c1a w l                 
3c1a l l
2b2c w l                 
1b1a w l                 
3a2a l w
2b3b l w
2a2c w l               
1a3b l l
2b3c l l
2b1b lw
1a2b l l
2b3b l w
3a2c l l
3c3b w l                 
3a2b l l
1c3a l l
3a1c l l
1c2a l l
2b1c l l
1b2b l w                     
1b2b l w
3b2a l l
2a1b l l
2c3b l l
2c2c ww trigger                       
1b2a l l
3c1c l w
2b3c l l
1a1b w l   w1-1                    +28
3a2b l l
1c3b l l
3c2a l l
2c2c ww trigger                     
2a2c w l   w1-1                     +29
1b1c w l
2a2b w l
2c1c l w
2b2c w l               
3c2b l l
3c3a w l                 
1b3c l l
1c1b w l                 
3b1c l l
1c1b w l                   
3b3c w l                 
3a1b l l
1a2b l l
1c2b l l
2a1b l l
3c3a w l                         
2a2c w l
2b3a l l
1c1c ww trigger
3b2a l l
2c1c l w
3b2b l w
1c2a l l
3b2c l l
2a3c l l
2b2c w l   w1-1                    +30                       
1b1a w l
2c2b w l
1c2a l l
2a2a ww trigger
3a1c l l
3c2c l w
2b1b l w
1c3a l l
2b2b w w  L1-1
1c2b l l
3b1a l l
1c3c l w
3a3c w l   w2-2                     +30
3a1a l w
1c2a l l
3a2b l l
1b1a w l
1b1c w l
1c1c w w trigger               
3a1b l l
3a3c w l   w1-1                     +31
3c3b w l
3a2b l l
3a3b w l
2c1c l w
3c3c w w trigger               
2a2a ww   L1-1
3a1a l w
2a1a l w
2c2a w l   w2-2                     +31
1a2c l l
2b1c l l
3b2c l l
1b1a w l                           
1b2b l w
2b1b l w
2a1b l l
2c3b l l
3c2c l w
1a3c l l
2b2b ww trigger
2a2b w l   w1-1                     +31
3c2b l l
2c2a w l
3c3a w l
1a2a l w
3a3b w l                   
3b3a w l                   
1a2a l w
3c2c l w
3b3b w w trigger                 
1a3b l l
1c1b w l   w1-1                     +32
2c1a l l
3c2b l l
2a2c w l     
3b1c l l
1b3a l l
2a3a l w
1a3b l l
1a1c w l
1a1b w l                   
3b2b l w
2b1a l l
1b3a l l
2c2a w l                   
2c1b l l
3c2a l l
3a2c l l
3a1c l l
2c2c ww trigger                       
2c3b l l
3c3c w w L1-1
2b3c l l
3b2a l l
3a3c w l   w2-2                      +32
1b3c l l
2c1c l w
3b1c l l
3c1c l w
1c3b l l
2a3a l w
1a3b l l
3c2a l l
1c3c lw
1c1a w l
2c2a w l
1b1a w l                   
3b3a w l                   
2c2b w l                   
3b2c l l
2b3b l w
2a1a l w
2b1c l l
2a1b l l
3c2a l l
2a1b l l
2c3b l l
2a1b l l
1a2c l l
1c3c l w                 
2c3a l l
3a2a l w
2c1b l l
1c3b l l
1c3a l l
1b1c wl                           
3b3c wl
2b3a l l
1c3a l l
3b1c l l
1c2b l l
2c3a l l
1b2b l w                         
3a1b l l
1c1c ww trigger
2a1c l l
2c3a l l
1a2c l l
1a2b l l
3b2a l l
3a1a l w                             
3a1c l l
3a1a l w
1c1a w l  w1-1                  +33
2a3c l l
2a3c l l
2c2b wl
3b3c wl
3a3a ww trigger


Might be safer with 2 triggers (with no intervening matches on the dozen element) before using standard 1-3-9-27 ??
Profit would be lower but on those results the highest step would be 3 (9-9)

A.

PS. Regarding the zero, I do not record it. Obviously best on nozero table

Hi ignatus,

In case you have still not worked it out yet....

Record sequences of 4 results in the format doz/col/doz/col
For example if the last 4 numbers were 16,19,3,28 then you record:

2a1a

Once you have recorded a line of 4 numbers like that you compare the first two elements (couplets) of the line with the last two pair of results on the line and if they match horizontally you record a "w". If they don't match you record an "L"

So you get:

2a1a  Lw   (the 2 and 1 do not match so it is a L; the column a's do match so that is classed as a w - win)

You build up your matrix with lines of 4 results eg:

2a1a l w
3b1c l l
2b2b w w

When you get a situation whre you have recorded 6 L's over 3 consecutive lines it is time to begin the progression:

2b3c l l
1a3b l l
2c3a l l  - trigger to begin betting for a matching couplet on the next line eg:


2b3c l l
1a3b l l
2c3a l l -----six L's
1a--------------------begin to bet now for match of doz1 then next spin bet for match on column a - BUT always stop at a winner on the line.


Regards,
A.

Hi robeenhuut,
In my last shown results I played strictly off the trigger

LL
LL
LL

That is after six L's spread across three lines.

I have a 10-step progression. (total = 72u)
The 10th step win was reached once.  All the other wins were 8 steps or below...

However, I cannot fail to agree with you that if I had played off a trigger six consisting of:

WL
LL
LL
L

then the 10 step progression would have been lost!

I have not said it is foolproof. Also, the only engineering is to modify and tweak for optimum success. I'm not trying to cheat random - but simply to beat it... I happen to agree with JL with his statement that 16 L's  "may prove to be a virtual H-A-R limit".

I played continuous games - JL played more advisable hit and run way.

It's possible that an even better or different style of progression could be generated (perhaps with "levels"?) If anybody has a good idea about that please post.

A. 

Hi SamNL,

Yes - I think you are playing correctly in your excels after trigger

LL
LL
LL

Here are my latest results...

Continuous play with real numbers:
Trigger: six L's (strictly 3 lines of LL)
10-step progression: 1-1-1-2-3-5-7-11-16-25 = 72u

1a3c l l
1a2b l l
2b1c l l
2c2c w+2; w            +2
3b1a l l
1c2b l l
3c2a l l
1c1c w+2 w             +4
2c3a l l
1c2b l l
3a3c w l
2b1a l l
2a2b w w
2a2c w l
1a3c l l
1c2c l w
2c3a l l
2c3a l l
2b1a l l
3b3a w+2 w             +6
1c1c w w
1c2a l l
2a2a w w
2b2c w l
2c3a l l
1c1b w l
3c2b l l
2a3a l w
1b2a l l
2a2b w l
1b1b w w
2b3c l l
3b1b l w
2c1c l w
3b3c w l
2b1c l l
1c1a w l
3a1a l w
3c2a l l
2a3c l l
3a3c w l
1a1b w l
3c2c l w
3c1b l l
2c3a l l
3a2b l l
3b1a l-1 l-1
2c2c w+2 w             +6
2a2c w l
2a1a l w
1b2a l l
2a1b l l
3b2b l l
3a2a l-1 w+2            +7
2a1b l l
3a2c l l
2a1c l l
1c3c l-1 w+2             +8
1b2c l l
3c3c w w
2b3a l l
3c2b l l
3c2c l w
2a2b w l
3a1a l w
3a1b l l
1c3a l l
1a3c l l
3c1b l-1 l-1
2b3c l-1 l-2
1c1c w+6 w             +9
1a1b w l
3b3b w w
3a3b w l
1b3b l w
1a3b l l
3c3a w l
2c3c l w
2a2a w w
1c2b l w
3b2b l w
3a2c l l
1b1a w l
2a1c l l
1c1c w w
1c3c l w
1a1b w l
1b1b w w
1a2b l l
1a2b l l
2b1c l l
1c1c w+2                +11
3c1b l l
1b2c l l
3c2c l l
1c2c l-1 w+2            +12
2a1b l l
1a3b l l
2b3b l w   
2c2a w l
3b3c w l
1c2a l l
3c1b l l
1c2a l l
2a2c w+2 l               +14
2c2a w l
2a2a w w
2c1c l w
2a2b w l
2a1a l w
3a2a l w
2b3c l l
2a3b l l
2b1b l w
3b2a l l
1c1b w w
2a1a l w
1a1c w w
1c3a l l
1c2c l w
2c1c l w
1b2b l w
3a1b l l
2a3b l l
3a2a l w
3c2a l l
2c3b l l
1b3a l l
1b1a w+2 l                +16
2b2b w w
2a1b l l
1b1a w l
2b1c l l
1b2b l w
2a3c l l
1c2a l l
3a3c w l
1c2c l w
1a3c l l
2b3b l w
1b1b w w
1a2a l w
2a2c w l
2b1a l l
3c2a l l
1a2c l l
2a1a l-1 w+2              +17
3c1c l w
1a2c l l
1b2b l w
3a3c w l
2b3c l l
1b2c l l
3a2c l l
3b1a l-1 l-1
1c3a l-1 l-2
3a1a l-3 w+10             +19
1a3b l l
1a2a l w
2a2b w l
2c1c l w
1a2b l l
1c3b l l
2b1a l l
2c1a l-1 l-1
1b2b l-1 w+4               +20
3c1b l l
3b2b l w
2a1b l l
1a2a l w
1c3b l l
2a1b l l
1b3c l l
3c1b l-1 l-1
1c3c l-1 w+4                +21
1c2c l w
2b2b w w
1a2a l w
1b3a l l
2b3b l w
3a2b l l
1b1b w w
1c3a l l
2b3c l l
2b3a l l
3a2c l-1 l-1
3c1c l-1 w+4                 +22
2c1c l w
2a2a w w
1b2a l l
3a3c w l
2b2a w l
3c3b w l
1c2a l l
2a2c w l
2a2c w l
2b1c l l
2b3a l l
2c3a l l
2b1b l-1 w+2                 +23
1a3c l l
2b3a l l
2a1b l l
3a1b l-1 l-1
3a3a w+2 w                   +23
3a3a w w
1c2b l l
3c3a w l
3a3b w l
1c1b w l
1b1a w l
1a3c l l
3b2a l l
3b3c w l                   
2c3a l l
3c1b l l
1c3a l l
1a3a l-1 w+2               +24
2c2a w l
3a2b l l
3a3b w l
2c3a l l
1b3c l l
2b1c l l
1b1c w+2 l                 +26
3c1c l w
2a1b l l
1b3a l l
2c3c l w
2c3a l l
1b3b l w
1b3a l l
2c3c l w
1b3b l w
3a3b w l
1b1b w w
1a3b l l
1a1b w l
2c3b l l
1b3a l l
1b1a w l   
2a1a l w
1c2a l l
3a2c l l
2a3b l l
2a1a l-1 w+2                +27
3b2a l l
3c1c l w
2a2b w l
3b1c l l
3c2a l l
3c1c l w               
2b3b l w
3c2c w l
3c2a l l
3b2c l l
3b3a w l     
3a3b w l
2a2c w l
2c1a l l
3c3b w l
2a1c l l
1b2a l l
3b1b lw
2b3a l l
1b1c w l
1a3c l l
2b1b l w
3b1b l w
1a3a l w
2a1c l l
1c3a l l
1c2c lw
1a1c w l
3b1c l l
3a1c l l
2a2a w w
1b1c w l
3a2a l w
2b2b w w
3a3a w w
1c1a w l
2b3a l l
3b1a l l
3b1b l w
3b1b l w
3b1c l l
3c1c l w
1a1c w l
3c3c w w
1a2a l w
1b1c w l
1a1b w l
2c3a l l
2a2c w l
3a1b l l
1c3a l l
2c2a w l                     
2c2a w l
2b1c l l
1a1c w l
2c3a l l
2b2b w w
3b1b l w
2b3c l l
1c1a w l
3a2b l l
1b3b l w
1c3c l w
3c2b l l
3a2a l w
3c2c l w
1b1a w l
1a2b l l
1c3b l l
1b2a l l
2a2a w+2 w                      +29
3c3a w l
1a3a l w
1b2c l l
1c3b l l
3a3c w l
3c3a w l
2b3a l l
3c2a l l
3c1b l l
1a2c l-1 l-1
2b1a l-1 l-2
1b1a w+6 l                        +30
1a1a w w
2a1c l l
3c1c l w
3c3c w w
3c3c w w
1a3c l l
3a2a l w
2c1a l l
2a2c w l
1c2b l l
1b3a l l
3b2a l l
1a3b l-1 l-1
1a2a l-1 w+4                      +31
2b1a l l
1a3c l l
1a2a lw
2c3a l l
3c3c w w
2c1a l l
2b2b w w
1c1a w l
2c3b l l
3c2c l w
3b2a l l
2c3c l w
1a3a l w
1c1b w l
1b2b l w
2c2b w l
3a3a w w
1b3a l l
1b1c w l
1a3a l w
3b3b w w
1c1b w l
3a2b l l
3c3c w w
3c3c w w
2b3a l l
3b2c l l
1a2c l l
1a1c w+2  l                       +33
1a1a w w
2c1c l w
1b2a l l
3a3c w l
1b3c l l
3c3c l l
2b2b w w                     
1b3a l l
2a1a l w
1c1c w w
3b1a l l
2a3b l l
1c3b l l
3c1c l-1 w+2                      +34
3c1c l w
1b2c l l
2b3c l l
3a1c l l                 
3c2a l-1 l-1
2a1b l-1 l-2
1b3b l-3 w+10                    +36
3c2a l l
3c1b l l
3b3b w w
2b2a w l
3a2b l l
2c2c w w
1a2a l w
2b3b l w
1b1c w l
1c3a l l
1b3c l l
1a1c lw
3b2b l w
2b2c w l
2c1b l l
2a1a l w
2c1b l l
3c3a w l
3a2b l l
1b3a l l
1c2a l l
3b1b l-1 w+2                      +37           
3b1b l w
2c3a l l
2c3c l w
1c1c w w
3c2a l l
1c1a w l
3b3b w w
2b3c l l
2c3b l l
3c3b w l
1a1c w l
3b1c l l
2b3c l l
1b3a l l
2b3c l-1 l-1
2a2a w+2 w                      +38
1b3c l l
1b3a l l
2b3b lw
1b1c w l
1a3c l l
1b1c w l
2a2c w l
1b1b w w
2c2b w l
1b3b l w
3b3c w l
2b1b l w
2a3c l l
3c2a l l
1a3a lw
3a2b l l
3a1c l l
2b3b l w
2c1a l l
1b1b w w
3c1a l l
1b1a w l
2b3a l l
2a3a l w
3a2a l w
1c1a w l
1a1c w l
2c2c w w
2a1c l l
1c1c w w
2b2b w w
3a2a l w
1b1c w l
3a3c w l
1a1c w l
3b2c l l
2a1c l l
3b3a w l         
3b3b w w
3a1c l l
3a2a l w
3c2c l w
3c3a w l
2a3a l w
3b3a w l
1c3a l l
3b1c l l
1b3c l l
3b2a l-1 l-1
1b3a l-1 l-2
1a2b l-3 l-5
2c3c l-7 w+22                    +40
2c3c l l
2b1a l l
2c3c lw
1b2c l l
3a2c l l
3b2c l l
3a1b l-1 l-1
1a3b l-1 l-2
3a2a l-3 w+5                       +42
2a3b l l
1c2c l w
1b3b l w
2b1a l l
1b1a w l
2c2b w l
3a2a l w
1a2b l l
1b3b l w
2c2b w l
3a1c l l
1c2a l l
1a1a w w                         
1a1a w w
3a3c w l
3a3b w l
1b2b l w
2b3a l l
3a3c w l
2c1a l l
1c3b l l
3a1b l l
3c3c w+2 w                         +44
2b2b w w
2a3b l l
2a3c l l
1a2a l w                           
1c2b l l
3a2c l l
2b1a l l
2c2c w+2 w                          +46
2a2b w l
2c2b w l
2c1a l l
1c2b l l
3b3b ww
2c2b w l
1c1c w w
2a2c w l
3a3a w w
2c3c l w
2c3b l l
1b2a l l
1a2a l w
2c2c w w
1b2a l l
3b1c l l
2a1b l l
2a3b l-1 l-1
1a3b l-1 l-2
3b2b l-3 w+10                      +48
2b3b l w
2c2a w l
3a2c l l
3c2b l l
2a2b w l   
2b1c l l
1b3a l l
3b1c l l
1b2c l-1 l-1
1c1b w+2 l                            +48
3c1c l w
3c1b l l
1a3a l w
1c2c l w
1b1c w l
2c2a w l
3b1a l l
3a2a l w
1a1a w w
2a2a w w
3b1c l l
2b2a w l
3c1b l l
3c3b w l
2c2c w w
2c2c w w
2b1a l l
1c3a l l
2b1a l l
1b1a w+2 l                            +50
1b3a l l
1a2c l l
2c2c w w
2c3a l l
1a3b l l
3b1a l l
1b2a l-1 l-1
3c3b w+2 l                            +50
3c2b w l
1c2b l l
1a2c l l
1a1b w l   
2b3b l w
2a3a l w
1c2b l l
1b1b w w
1b2c l l
2a2b w l
3a3c w l
1b1c w l
1c1a w l
3c2c l w
2b1a l l
3b1c l l
2b3c l l
2c1b l-1 l-1
2b1b l-1 w+4                         +51
3b3b w w
3c2a l l
1b2a l l
3a2a l w
1c3b l l
1b1b w w
1b3b l w
2b1b l w
1a1a w w
2c1c l w
2c1c l w
2b2a w l
1b2b l w
3b2a l l
3a2b l l
3c3b w l
1c3b l l
1b1a w l
2b1a l l
2c1a l l
2c1c l w       
2c1c l w
3b2c l l
3a3c w l
1b2b l w
1b2a l l
2a3b l l
3c3b w l
2b1a l l
2b3b l w
3a2b l l
1c2b l l
3a2c l l
2c3b l-1 l-1
1a2a l-1 w+4                         +52
3b3b w w
1b1c w l
2c3b l l
1a2c l l
1c1c ww
1b3a l l
3c1c l w
3c1b l l
3b1b l w
1c1b w l
2a2c w l
2c1a l l
3b1b l w
3c1b l l
2c1c l w
1b2b l w
1c3c l w
1a3b l l
3b3b w w
1a3b l l
3c2b l l
1b2b l w                       
1b2b l w
1a2b l l
3a2b l l
1b2b l w
3b2c l l
3c3a w l
3c2b l l
2a3a l w
1a2a l w
1a1b w l
1a3b l l
3b2b l w
2c2b w l
1a2c l l
1c1a w l
3c1a l l
2b2c w l
1b1a w l
3a2a l w
2b3b l w
2a2c w l
1a3b l l
2b3c l l
2b1b lw
1a2b l l
2b3b l w
3a2c l l
3c3b w l
3a2b l l
1c3a l l
3a1c l l
1c2a l-1 l-1
2b1c l-1 l-2
1b2b l-3 w+10                       +54
1b2b l w
3b2a l l
2a1b l l
2c3b l l
2c2c w+2 w                           +56
1b2a l l
3c1c l w
2b3c l l
1a1b w l
3a2b l l
1c3b l l
3c2a l l
2c2c w+2 w                           +58
2a2c w l
1b1c w l
2a2b w l
2c1c l w
2b2c w l
3c2b l l
3c3a w l
1b3c l l
1c1b w l
3b1c l l
1c1b w l
3b3c w l
3a1b l l
1a2b l l
1c2b l l
2a1b l-1 l-1
3c3a w+2 l                            +58
2a2c w l
2b3a l l
1c1c w w
3b2a l l
2c1c l w
3b2b l w
1c2a l l
3b2c l l
2a3c l l
2b2c w+2 l                            +60
1b1a w l
2c2b w l
1c2a l l
2a2a w w
3a1c l l
3c2c l w
2b1b l w
1c3a l l
2b2b w w
1c2b l l
3b1a l l
1c3c l w
3a3c w l
3a1a l w
1c2a l l
3a2b l l
1b1a w l
1b1c w l
1c1c w w
3a1b l l
3a3c w l
3c3b w l
3a2b l l
3a3b w l
2c1c l w
3c3c w w
2a2a w w
3a1a l w
2a1a l w
2c2a w l
1a2c l l
2b1c l l
3b2c l l
1b1a w+2 l                             +62
1b2b l w
2b1b l w
2a1b l l
2c3b l l
3c2c l w
1a3c l l
2b2b w w
2a2b w l
3c2b l l
2c2a w l
3c3a w l
1a2a l w
3a3b w l
3b3a w l
1a2a l w
3c2c l w
3b3b w w
1a3b l l
1c1b w l
2c1a l l
3c2b l l
2a2c w l     
3b1c l l
1b3a l l
2a3a l w
1a3b l l
1a1c w l
1a1b w l
3b2b l w
2b1a l l
1b3a l l
2c2a w l
2c1b l l
3c2a l l
3a2c l l
3a1c l-1 l-1
2c2c w+2 w                            +62
2c3b l l
3c3c w w
2b3c l l
3b2a l l
3a3c w l
1b3c l l
2c1c l w
3b1c l l
3c1c l w
1c3b l l
2a3a l w
1a3b l l
3c2a l l
1c3c lw
1c1a w l
2c2a w l
1b1a w l
3b3a w l
2c2b w l
3b2c l l
2b3b l w
2a1a l w
2b1c l l
2a1b l l
3c2a l l
2a1b l-1 l-1
2c3b l-1 l-2
2a1b l-3 l-5
1a2c l-7 l-11
1c3c l-16 w+50                         +65 ***  15 L's (highest)
2c3a l l
3a2a l w
2c1b l l
1c3b l l
1c3a l l
1b1c w+2 l                                +67
3b3c w l
2b3a l l
1c3a l l
3b1c l l
1c2b l-1 l-1
2c3a l-1 l-2
1b2b l-3 w+10                           +69

3a1b l l
1c1c w w
2a1c l l
2c3a l l
1a2c l l
1a2b l-1 l-1
3b2a l-1 l-2
3a1a l-3 w+10                             +71
3a1c l l
3a1a l w
1c1a w l
2a3c l l
2a3c l l
2c2b w l
3b3c w l
3a3a w w
2b2b w w
1b1b w w
3c1c l w
1c1c w w
2a2a w w
1b1a w l
3b1a l l
2c2a w l
2b1b l w
1a3c l l
3b1c l l
3b3b w w
1b3b l w
2a3c l l
1c1c w w
2b2c w l
1b1c w l
3b2b l w
2a2b w l
1a1c w l
1b1a w l
2c2b w l
1c1b w l
1a1a w w
2a3a l w
2a2b w l
3b3b w w
1b3a l l
1b1b w w
2c1b l l
1a2a l w
3a1c l l
1b1c w l
3a3b w l
3c3c w w
1c3a l l
3b1a l l
1b3b l w
2c3b l l
2b1b l w
2b1a l l
3b1b l w
3a3c w l
2b3a l l
2c1a l l
3b1b l w
3a2b l l
2a2c w l
1a1b w l
1c2c w l
2b1b l w
1a2b l l
3b3a w l
2c3b l l
3c3a w l
3c1b l l
3c3b w l
2c2c w w
1b3b l w
1b3a l l
1b1c w l
3b1a l l
2a3c l l
2a1a l w
1a3c l l
3a3b w l
2c3c l w
3c3b w l
1c2a l l
3b1b l w
1a3a l w
1a1b w l
2c3b l l
3c1a l l
3b3b w w
1a1c w l
3b2b l w
2c2c w w
2c1c l w
3b3b w w
2b2a w l
1c3c l w
2b1c l l
1b2a l l
1a3b l l
3a2a l-1 w+2                                +72  (longest trigger)


The profit would have been more with JL's suggested prog. I prolly wouldn't have had the patience to wait for trigger in a couple of games... Although  each game won I still think H-A-R is best approach.

A.

Hi soggett,

85 games won - 0 lost
profit=115u (approx due to record testing error)
4 games won on step 7

A.

Hi JL

Nice results. I have had time to play a further 85 games without defeat over last few days using continuous actuals (not hit and run) using 5L trigger....

I also agree with JL that a triple LL trigger + a ten-step prog and played H-A-R then surely seems very powerful indeed!
My suggested 10-step is a more cautious 1-1-1-2-3-5-7-11-16-25 = 72u risk.

Regards,
Atlantis.

Thanks for this simple EC system to enjoy playing. I like it a lot.
A.

CODE 20 - a very promising flatbetting method if I remember...
Sure it would be good to see an improved concept of that.

A.

Hi JohnLegend,

Nice results indeed!

I played another 9 winning games using the 5-L's trigger.
I play it with 2 possible triggers:

LL
LL
L
 
and

WL
LL
LL

For the very first time one game took me right up to step 8 before the WIN (no zero's involved)
That was playing continuously though - I really think you are probably right to play this HIT AND RUN style.
Just saying, that's all. Best to stay wary and careful in these early days of testing.

Best wishes,
Atlantis.