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#376
Bally's Blog / Re: Studying Kimo Li's work!
December 17, 2015, 02:30:57 AM
Quote from: horus on December 16, 2015, 12:43:44 PM
Hello BTW,




It's just the 'law' of disproportionate occurrence at work.

Dear Horus,
Thanks for your reply.
I believed that you already KNOW,
long-long ago that Kimo Li,
take "advantage-to-the-hilt", of this so called  "LAW"!
#377
Bally's Blog / Re: Studying Kimo Li's work!
December 16, 2015, 08:21:03 AM
Whether the wheel well-balanced, or imbalance,

"...either ways, the casino doomed!'
Kimo Li.

simply mean,
say, if you slice the wheel into three equal parts, as if you slice a round pizza, into three pie parts,
[for a moment, simply ignore the zero.]


if the wheel very balanced,
in a long spins...say, 100spins.

then all parts of the wheel will have,
almost EQUAL hits.

if the wheel imbalance BIASED,
then a certain part/parts,
will have MORE hit than the other part/parts.

this is some fact YOU need to ponder before you move on. :nod:
#378
Bally's Blog / Re: Studying Kimo Li's work!
December 16, 2015, 06:37:55 AM

But....
Even though the hitrate may hit as high as 80%,

You, still can't win with conventional progression.

You need an unconventional progression,
where tear apart and then win...
that withstand the "losses", before the win!
omg...
#379
Bally's Blog / Re: Studying Kimo Li's work!
December 16, 2015, 06:27:50 AM
OMG!
Just found out,
Kimo Li Way turn the probability UPSIDE DOWN!!!

instead of math  probability, the hit-rate turn as high 65%,70%, even,
as high as 80% !!!

and that truly HG!!!

and not even looking at the past spins!

No, I am not telling,
please don't PM me.
I just want to tell, its POSSIBLE!,
you need to have deep understanding.
of roulette.

Thanks.
#380
Bally's Blog / Re: Studying Kimo Li's work!
December 16, 2015, 04:54:59 AM

Whether the wheel well-balanced, or imbalance,

"...either ways, the casino doomed!'
Kimo Li.

Do you , gentlemen, really understand the real meaning of this quote???

Mr Li, did not explaining the significant of this wheel behaviour,
I  had explain them...


If you gentlemen, not really understand this very basic of the wheel behavior...,
put down your tools, and ponder this quote, and  understand , before you carry on.
Lest you burn your fingers, or worst, your whole hand...hehehe...
#381
Bally's Blog / Re: Studying Kimo Li's work!
December 16, 2015, 04:41:17 AM

=======================
Gentlemen,
The roulette may perfectly BALANCED,

as the casino tries very hard to make them well balanced...

or the wheel may BIAS [imbalance/tilted]...
as that due to some physic's law..

but Kimo Li says,


Quote from: BEAT-THE-WHEEL on December 16, 2015, 04:15:19 AM
==========================
"...either ways, the casino doomed!'
Kimo Li.
======================================
#382
Extreme Deviation,
of a single number,

seldom happened BACK to BACK.

Thus after a 1000spins,
if a straight numbers hit less than 17hits,

then we can bet that in the next 1000spins,
that number,
will not hit less than 17hits.

But of course , you may only win ,
with some
sort of extreme variation management,
and some mild progression strategy.
#383
Straight-up / 1000spins bet of single numbers deviation
November 28, 2015, 06:18:30 AM


In Euro wheel,
a straight ,
single number  has probability,
of 1/37,

or 1 hit in 37spins.

But the Deviation,
[ in past real record],
show that a single number hit varying from worst,[any worst?] 17hits/1000spins,
to best
[any better?]
34 hits/1000spins.

Take any past real BM record, and after 1000spins, a worst number would have only 17hits, and a best  number would have hit 34hits.

Thus how are we going to take advantages of this deviation ???

By hoping that a deviation, of only 17hits will not happen again,
in the next 1000spins,[or will it repeat again? Then curse your luck]

and bet with sort of extreme variance management.

===================
below an example, of how betting the least hit [of 17hits/1000], hoping it will not hit 17hit again, in next 1000spins]
========================




after 1000th spins.
number 26, is the least hit,
only 17hits,
thus bet 26 for the next 1000spins.
hoping it will hit more than 17.
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[real BM Dublin 2400spins]

28[first spin]
5
15
28
13
17
4
10
14
12
4
8
24
25
18
32
36
28
33
4
35
31
27
27
15
9
21
5
6
23-[30th spin]
9
14
33
20
4
8
19
24
35
14
21
6
31
26[hit1 ]
4
8
22
24
31
5
22
0
3
34
30
18
20
34
19
12-[60th spin]
0
16
15
28
34
8
36
13
9
28
30
29
15
11
1
14
2
15
15
15
34
1
4
16
13
29
6
7
32
2-[90th spin]
17
7
36
11
5
23
18
25
32
31
6
13
3
24
16
31
24
34
19
32
11
16
14
22
20
15
34
8
18
33-[120th]
28
4
27
28
34
17
6
20
16
20
8
3
15
20
12
23
0
25
15
33
4
32
18
27
33
26[hit2]
27
32
23
15-[150th]
34
1
0
20
31
0
2
25
15
9
6
13
26[hit3]
17
12
3
35
32
14
20
7
32
3
9
30
9
18
29
35
8-[180th]
16
28
21
17
21
32
8
35
15
25
15
18
12
10
18
34
10
15
20
29
23
9
13
28
4
36
10
7
10
13-[210th]
36
11
30
19
32
27
30
36
1
17
1
35
13
2
35
34
21
29
10
4
10
17
30
16
32
24
1
25
35
5-[240th]
17
36
35
29
33
30
7
12
5
11
29
25
34
31
25
11
12
10
34
1
32
13
34
5
33
18
12
36
9
12-[270th]
2
32
34
34
23
31
30
22
25
29
36
0
17
3
24
19
31
17
12
4
6
35
25
10
23
13
17
29
17
13-[300th]
3
24
21
36
27
33
31
35
9
24
20
29
9
24
25
23
16
22
5
19
18
21
13
5
12
26[hit4]
34
4
36
21-[330th]
27
9
8
23
9
16
20
4
20
14
18
23
23
6
10
25
15
11
35
8
5
33
2
35
34
7
23
29
13
16-[360th]
6
24
15
7
25
16
18
6
29
18
35
0
20
29
34
14
35
2
31
25
12
20
33
4
9
32
0
22
21
7-[390th]
1
23
36
30
5
22
8
25
18
9
24
33
21
14
8
18
16
24
12
6
34
21
14
35
11
4
3
30
11
17-[420th]
5
16
33
24
36
10
14
1
20
23
30
20
6
27
26[hit5]
2
17
1
24
34
14
6
7
0
0
21
4
16
29
23-[450th]
17
14
4
12
18
28
0
0
14
11
11
31
13
23
30
10
13
23
10
31
36
13
2
20
4
6
15
24
11
36-[480th]
1
27
1
13
31
29
12
12
0
19
25
22
5
0
29
32
15
31
29
35-[500th]


5
14
36
22
1
10
27
33
25
34-[510th]
3
1
12
36
10
3
35
6
20
22
0
15
11
35
23
22
6
33
28
18
32
25
21
35
0
27
2
12
12
33-[540th]
25
11
11
35
17
6
18
11
36
23
3
21
34
16
5
24
10
12
19
10
14
33
35
25
16
5
21
2
31
28-[570th]
28
21
27
10
3
22
15
35
8
8
14
34
12
27
14
27
28
22
21
31
21
12
14
21
24
17
10
36
14
15-[600th]
6
14
7
7
3
24
10
19
21
0
6
27
16
34
6
2
23
19
4
0
35
24
32
20
10
21
0
7
8
24-[630th]
14
26 [hit6]
19
15
23
35
33
28
34
21
17
24
33
17
19
26 [hit7]
3
6
36
3
28
12
6
18
23
27
4
11
34
32-[660th]
9
21
26 [hit8]
13
23
22
11
17
8
17
24
3
1
19
27
13
21
23
27
30
18
3
31
13
25
11
14
11
18
12-[690th]
6
12
2
30
0
33
13
4
33
15
4
2
12
1
31
33
7
15
34
2
14
16
22
0
8
24
32
9
32
6-[720]
0
23
17
4
20
0
28
33
32
10
11
18
0
35
12
3
7
33
23
11
18
17
17
4
27
20
29
34
18
20-[750]
15
10
30
10
31
17
12
6
18
24
28
35
29
36
33
26 [hit9].
6
3
35
18
23
19
5
16
23
25
29
12
22
31-[780]
4
18
5
19
18
13
9
16
31
8
24
24
21
15
9
17
17
21
25
2
5
2
10
26=[ hit10]
2
5
8
34
28
18-[810]
26=[ hit11].
0
34
17
6
16
33
34
33
21
1
1
1
28
23
21
29
27
33
28
3
12
24
17
9
36
11
22
6
17-[840]
7
34
8
2
26=[ hit12].
27
8
26=[ hit13].
0
27
33
35
9
25
3
14
29
7
8
22
29
28
9
1
16
17
12
29
15
14-[870th]
29
28
30
22
33
26=[ hit14]
26=[hit15]
24
24
34
29
6
22
2
14
16
17
15
32
27
30
8
32
11
24
12
7
20
34
18-[900th]
34
29
15
13
20
9
14
25
10
4
20
27
11
26=[hit16].
33
17
11
17
7
0
17
5
13
34
7
0
8
7
19
20-[930th]
23
3
2
31
11
4
18
10
28
26=[ hit17]
6
8
25
6
22
33
28
15
18
36
0
25
31
28
27
2
11
9
12
21-[960th]
19
7
35
23
30
2
1
8
23
19=
18
6
20
33
5
33
20
20
23
2
6
35
17
6
31
2
2
16
15
12-[990th]
21
8
24
6
34
32
19
21
10
2=[1000th spin]
--------------------------------------------
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
21-[1001st spin]
25
36
14
35
4
27
7
20
26[hit18]
10
18
36
20
8
8
12
15
4
4
8
18
29
6
1
31
24
31
20
18
10
0
11
2
32
7[1036th spin,=37x28round=1036spin]
24
28
2
5
17
34
5
24
4
29
36
28
21
16
6
2
31
3
10
19
12
10
24
30[1060th spin]
29
28
25
34
18
0
0
13
9
6
8
35
11
26[hit19]
8
33
6
1
8
27
34
15
13
27
1
34
0
5
34
1[1090th spin]
36
25
2
21
23
34
5
26[hit20]
22
3
29
33
26[hit21]
31
32
25
15
24
35
7
7
6
31
27
2
15
5
17
7
22[1120th spin]
27
18
23
0
3
30
31
11
12
19
0
2
34
18
29
3
3
36
3
14
21
8
15
16
29
4
16
22
13
13[1150th spin]
15
30
11
25
7
22
34
27
7
12
12
19
35
34
8
35
18
0
2
8
12
29
0
23
19
29
11
7
30
0[1180th spin]
3
3
15
23
29
15
30
28
20
36
26[hit22]
31
27
22
31
2
0
34
31
30
31
35
7
2
17
9
23
31
35
1[1210th spin]
28
31
24
31
27
26[hit23]
22
26[hit24]
19
28
17
7
20
3
0
4
24
35
20
7
29
18
28
17
17
13
36
8
35
26[hit25][1240th spin]
7
31
0
7
32
20
20
15
33
30
18
9
20
14
9
27
25
11
25
7
30
28
36
26[hit26]
14
30
28
3
27
7[1270th spin]
31
29
26[hit27]
23
30
4
20
17
24
35
28
25
36
24
31
35
14
4
5
32
10
34
13
27
17
34
29
24
36
32[1300th spin]
11
1
16
8
22
26[hit28]
21
35
36
7
12
33
33
24
20
32
24
24
12
36
9
4
22
5
33
18
16
4
23
3[1330th spin]
30
34
5
12
25
6
12
32
23
0
6
34
25
17
14
8
11
9
9
5
19
14
28
15
18
17
35
9
26[hit29]
34[1360th spin]
35
33
21
14
30
3
36
22
8
14
23
12
5
10
5
25
20
7
29
27
4
4
12
18
14
8
16
21
8
29[1390th spin]
34
19
23
6
36
15
7
12
27
17
0
10
10
5
3
21
17
6
19
2
36
16
35
10
36
21
33
7
21
36[1420th spin]
5
19
11
6
14
2
34
2
2
23
29
20
32
18
33
8
21
10
6
9
26[hit30]
7
22
11
5
11
21
32
30
34[1450th spin]
33
18
10
16
35
32
15
11
15
12
31
16
22
18
1
35
7
27
33
18
24
14
15
17
9
36
30
19
8
35[1480th spin]
9
25
15
19
25
29
1
26[hit31]
34
36
18
8
34
35
27
32
8
35
30
6
0
1
24
0
1
36
30
2
20
35[1510th spin]
35
11
13
32
0
22
4
7
20
0
17
14
33
18
7
17
14
7
29
7
12
8
34
35
26[hit32]
18
34
9
11
9[1540th spin]
30
27
34
7
14
15
29
21
9
17
35
20
28
34
9
17
32
5
17
30
12
25
8
30
8
7
19
5
10
31[1570th spin]
0
8
32
36
21
36
8
6
16
30
5
0
31
4
8
30
27
19
4
2
20
9
30
0
30
11
22
33
16
22[1600th spin]
30
35
24
2
23
32
31
25
14
0
9
6
21
33
36
20
32
33
8
35
7
11
8
26[hit33]
22
17
3
5
10
10[1630th spin]
13
20
25
21
36
20
26[hit34]
14
7
18
2
11
30
9
17
13
34
2
9
8
24
20
34
27
2
28
23
6
16
32[1660th spin]
20
26[hit35]
15
6
13
1
33
18
11
21
20
4
18
1
18
15
12
25
22
28
14
2
27
8
8
12
31
28
34
24[1690th spin]
17
4
35
16
0
17
22
24
29
28
8
1
4
13
34
22
34
27
4
32
13
23
11
8
5
7
13
11
29
22[1720th spin]
10
25
18
29
20
12
36
19
24
25
6
5
33
9
22
29
36
16
23
18
23
25
15
28
34
4
7
9
5
22[1750th spin]
33
6
18
6
7
26[hit36]
20
26[hit37]
26[hit38]
27
14
36
22
20
29
28
34
22
35
29
12
10
8
22
7
17
35
22
36
13[1780th spin]
7
26[hit39]
13
18
3
14
27
29
24
27
22
5
16
10
35
0
2
14
30
28
8
35
11
11
8
27
27
11
29
31[1810th spin]
11
33
35
11
5
20
36
22
21
22
8
28
13
25
21
9
29
17
11
11
26[hit40]
33
31
7
2
36
27
34
28
33[1840th spin]
15
12
21
19
30
13
28
18
15
6
25
5
19
21
21
23
2
0
35
1
22
26[hit41]
18
17
32
15
9
3
15
30[1870th spin]
2
5
33
15
21
25
2
9
7
13
12
8
5
25
14
24
22
36
34
12
15
24
22
21
3
7
8
9
24
1[1900th spin]
6
1
22
30
28
2
6
30
5
18
34
21
28
23
23
24
5
16
28
22
28
31
35
35
18
27
13
15
20
5[1930th spin]
26[hit42]
2
34
29
0
8
4
4
31
4
11
34
16
0
35
20
12
22
15
32
33
17
23
31
23
0
3
12
8
11[1960th spin]
20
23
1
21
15
2
5
7
19
4
19
24
10
35
22
20
26[hit43 ]
33
35
11
29
13
5
26[hit44][27th hit in 2nd 1000th spin]
34
0
28
5
34
13[1990th spin]
13
14
16
12
27
34
4
19
25
29[2000th spin]

28[2001st spin]
6
15
16
4
9
0
20
11
29
18
26[hit45]
8
35
28
35
14
8
0
10
11
7
5
26[hit46]
0
24
31
22
22
35
29
10
1
19
7
6
0
13
17
4
1
35
21
1
29
4
6
22
1
26[hit47]
19
7
6
6
13
28
21
35
12
8
6[2060th spin]
10
7
17
0
2
34
1
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#384
Dear Gentlemen,

If a person want to become a better person at any endeavor, that person must admit his ignorance and shortcoming, and humbly learn and DE-LEARN too. We must understand that we are no genius, and our brain are just mere ordinary brain.
That's why, every year , thousands flunked and drop out from college and university...All because they do not WILLING to learn, lack of enthusiasm, and most importantly, humbleness and respect the knowledgeable person.

Teo,
Please produce official record,
RNG, can't be assumed as record,
since the law of physic, itself play a part of Virtual Limit.
VL simple mean a LIMIT of an extreme...

Relax,
For many-many times,
Albalaha have pointed out that,
wagering itself will not become HG,
or win constantly,
because no wagering can overcome the beast of VIRTUAL LIMIT!

That a simple fact.
Why beating and riding the dead horse...again and again,
hoping for better result?

Open up, be humble, accept the fact we need to delearn and learn.
EVADING attitude won't get us better.
======================
Albalaha point out the TRUTH, a universal truth...

quote:
"but do they hold if we keep playing? Answer is no. Will someone dare to include the reasoning or logic to play this or that? Be it roulette or baccarat or even slots, what to play, when to play and why play that way is absolutely missing." unquote.
===========================

When I first stumbled UPON a "sharp and biting" critic, Albalaha,
I simply get agitated, and then gone berserk,
and spewed venom too, when I can't stand his criticism....
and can't answer those three simple question.

1]what to play
2]when to play and
3]why play that way

I believe many people also act that way, when they can't stand Albalaha STYLE of criticism!!!
[He was a learned Attorney, and you will understand his way, and style of DRILLING, until your OUTBURST! Your OUTBURST simply REFLECT your ignorant and personality!]
================================

1]what to play
2]when to play and
3]why play that way

They are the essence of a HG, where u win more than u lose.

Thanks for reading.
#385

Gentlemen,

Thou I not expert,
I think Albalaha is right,
when he says that...

1]Virtual Limit, is a LIMIT,
that an EXTREME can ever happen.

The prove, is 69red/200spins,
is still a RECORD.
We could fully have faith, that the next 200spins of EC will have at LEAST 69 hit.

Albalaha had stressed that u will never see 30red EC in your entire lifetime.

He had always point that if we could take advantages of this phenomena, then we could have an edge over the casino, but of course U need to think out of box.

2]RTM,

Every expert has agreed that the RTM,
will finally 'balanced' itself over the long run, but, no one see that the RTM theory and Virtual Limit, TOGETHER with simple "loss avoiding" strategy, will produce an edge over the run run.

3]Progression.
Many posting have try to search, for a progression as a HG.
But Albalaha, had always emphasized, that no progression ever, can win, in the EXTREME of random, that could happen anytime. That's why they lose.

BUT does anyone listen???


ALAS, every expert can't see those very simple facts...
#386

Gentlemen,
Lets see what Albalaha points,
to ponder...

1]what to play
2]when to play
3]why play that way

 
I try to read almost all of Albalaha posting in the net, and could see that he always stressed that...

1]Virtual limit.
2]RTM
3]Exploiting the two above to the fullest, to win.

He seldom talk about progression as he stressed the utmost importance of "when" and "why" to play...

as he view progression is just a simple tool, but "over emphasized" factor by most,

as no progression could win in the worst possible random.

and  that progression, by itself, never could be a HG!

He says HG is understand RTM and Virtual Limit, to win more than u would lose cutting lose
[ cutting loss, as random will become untamed once in a while...][?]

He always says  that VIRTUAL LIMIT, as a RANDOM behavior that has a LIMIT to extreme...[thus u ONLY see 69red/200spins as official record, but will never see 0 red/200spins in your entire lifetime!]

He hinted that if one could understand Virtual Limit and RTM,
and exploit them, then he will ....win most of the session,
and if,... if everyone knows how to exploit RTM and Virtual LIMIT, world's casinos will bankrupt.


Well, what say U???

Lets DEBATE gentlemantly...
#387

Thanks Gentlemen,
for yr replies,

The 69/200 is here, from spin 34th.
it an official record, yet to be surpassed. BUT u may win with, SURPRISE...marthy!!!

http://www.laroulette.it/risorse/permanenzimetro/hamburg-1999-1/hamburg-25-10-1999-1/permanence-table

RNG is computer generated, and u will see even 0/200.

I think we need to think out of box to fight random.
Just like farmers plant when the season is right, and fishermen  sail the sea when the weather is right, stay at home when the sea is rough...

#388
Money Management / Monte Carlo Progression Debacle?
December 12, 2014, 05:29:09 AM
The Monte Carlo
[or Breadwinner progression?]

Add +1, no matter win or lose,
bet 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,..so on...
till win and reset.

This Progression strategy I think will only win when one has a bet-selection that pick out losses and avoid it.

This is good for LONG term bet.
What U think?
Any Suggestion???
#389

Thanks Sir, for your reply.
Appreciate them.
=============
Lets DEBATE what I think Albalaha mean:

"Randomness will shuffle the wins and losses in any manner that may not suit you."

Does he mean that no progression method or strategy may win all permutation of possibilities?

=======================

"Although there is a virtual limit of it but you can not beat all probabilities that worst hit rate can offer you."

I think, he mean that....Though there is limit of possible permutation of outcome.
eg, There may, '1 red and 19 black in 20spins', BUT there will NEVER "Only 1 red/199 black in 200spins!"

You still can't bet the worst possible permutation...say 69red in 200 spins, without going overboard.
====================================


"Do not put/arrange wins/losses are per your system, otherwise you will be beating everything under the sun, in your hypothetical world. In real world, they will only disappoint you."

I think, he mean that... there  no progression available to win all possible outcome constantly.
So what the possibilities of 'random-opportunity' to be EXPLOITED, and how to utilize a 'certain progression' AND 'cut-loss', to win more than you possibly lose???

I try very hard to understand what he really mean...

Anyone dares to debate? :nod:
#390
LETS SAY,we hit
"expect average hit"

say, 7random hit in 20 spins



[LLWLWLLWLWLLWLLWLLWL]

LLWLW
LLxWx
LWxxx
Lxxxx
Lxxxx
W=====win after only 5hit.
the debacle is when the L becomes too long!
==================

how about 10in a row?

say, 7random hit in 20 spins



[LLWLWLLWLWLLWLLWLLWL]


L L W L W L L W L W
L L x W x  L L x W x
L L X X  X W L

[X=NO BET]
FAILED TO CLOSED!!

10 IN ROW ONLY FOR = OR >10HIT.
=========================

how about 7in a row?

say, 7random hit in 20 spins


[LLWLWLLWLWLLWLLWLLWL]

LLWLWLL
WLXWXLL
XWXXXLL
XXXXXWL
XXXXXXL
XXXXXXWL

[X=NO BET]
win after only 7hit.
the debacle is when the L becomes too long!
PHEW! :fight:
==============

  3 hit in 20 spins?