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#421
A PRO needs....
apart from the discipline, bla,bla,blah...
A pro needs...in the strict betting sense..

1]BET SELECTION!!!
A bet selection must not select
a LONG STREAKS OF LOSS!!!
The preferable bet selection=if u play them FLATBET,
after 100 spins, just win or lose ONLY  FEW CHIPS.
A bet selection that win huge and then lose huge , a great no-no!

2] PROGRESSION.
With a good BET SELECTION,
then any reasonanble progression will do...
No progression will survive LONG LOSING STREAKS
without huge risk and BR....




THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION=
ANY BET BETSELECTION THAT AVOID LONG LOSING STREAK???
#422
Roulette Forum / Re: Half Labby (w/65 Labby bonus)
July 18, 2014, 03:10:08 AM
Hi
Since the bet selection quite ok,...


I think the LABBY strat from one is SAFER!!!
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Below I do a LABBY start from a single 1

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1st spins. Lose

start labby as
  [1]

bet 1=lose=-1=-1
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2nd. =Lose   2nd bet

[11]
bet 2=lose=-2=-3

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4th spin. =W   [3rd bet]

[112]
bet3=win=3=0

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8th.= Win  [4th bet]

[1]
bet 1=win=1=+1 win, reset.[total win=+1]

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16th. =L [5th bet]

start labby as [1]

bet 1=lose=-1=-1

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17. L1

[11]
bet 2=lose=-2=-3

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18. L2

[112]
bet 3=lose=-3=-6

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20. L4

[1123]

bet 4=lose=-4=-10


24. W8

[11234]

bet5=win=+5=-5

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32. L16

[ 123 ]

bet 4=lose=-4=-9

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33. L1

[ 1234 ]

bet 5=-5=-14
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34. L2

[ 12345 ]

bet 6=lose=-6=-20
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36. W4

[ 123456 ]

bet 7=win=+7=-13

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40. L8

[  2345  ]

bet 7=lose=-7=-20

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48. W16

[  23457  ]

bet 9=win=+9=-11

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49. W1

[   345   ]

bet 8=win=+8=-3

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50. W2

[    4    ]

bet 4=win=+4=+1  reset. total=win=2
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52. W4[count as4

[1]
bet 1=win=+1.  reset. total=win=3


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56. L8

[1]
bet 1=lose=-1=-1

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64. W[16]

[11]
bet2=win=+2=+1.  reset. total=win=4

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65. L1

[1]
bet 1=lose=-1=-1

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66. W2

[11]
bet2=win=+2=+1.  reset. total=win=5

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68. L4

[1]
bet 1=lose=-1=-1
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72. L8

[11]
bet 2=lose=-2=-3

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80. W16

[112]
bet 3=lose=-4=-7

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81. L1

[1123]
bet 4=lose=-4=-11

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82. L2
[11234]

bet 5=lose=-5=-16

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84. L4

[112345]
bet 6=lose=-6=--22
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88. L8

[1123456]

bet 7=lose=-7=-29

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96. L16

[11234567]
bet 8=lose=-8=-37

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97. L1

[112345678]
bet 9=lose=-9=-46

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98. W2

[1123456789]
bet 10=win=10=-36


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100. W4

[ 12345678 ]
bet 9=win=9=-27

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104. L8

[  234567  ]
bet 9=lose=-9=-36

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112. L16

[  2345679  ]
bet 11=lose=-11=-47


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113. W1

[  2345679,11  ]
bet 13=win=13=-34
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114. W2

[  345679  ]

  bet 12==win=12=-22

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116. L4

[   4567   ]
  bet 11=lose=-11=-33


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120. W8

[   4567,11   ]

bet 15==win=15=-18



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128. L16

[    567    ]

   bet 12=lose=-12=-30



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129. L1

[ 567,12]

   bet 17=lose=-17=-47

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130. L2

[ 567,12,17]

bet 22=lose=-22=-69
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132. L4

[ 567,12,17,22]

bet 27=lose=-27=-96

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136. W8

[ 567,12,17,22,27]

bet32=win=-64

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144.L16

[  6,7,12,17,22, ]

bet28=lose=-92

and so on....
#423
Roulette Forum / Re: Half Labby (w/65 Labby bonus)
July 17, 2014, 11:41:56 AM
Quote from: maestro on July 17, 2014, 09:48:01 AM
see attached excel..with your numbers betting high..you can change formulas depend on what EC betting and how many spin so you can get count of <w> and <l>  right..hope it helps...it is not reverse eng...
Hi Maestro,
Since I am spreadsheet illiterate,
may u please tell,
how is the averages, of
say, 1000spins of any EC result.

1]worst win/lose ratio ever encountered.
2]longest losing streaks count.
3]longest winning streaks count.

if the win/lose ratio is good, and the losing streaks very short,
then this bet selection good.
thanks in advance.
#424
Roulette Forum / Re: Half Labby (w/65 Labby bonus)
July 17, 2014, 06:45:04 AM
The theory of this type of betting is, bet every increasing increment, to avoiding long losing streaks,
...since   win and lose, will always at nearly 50/50 chance.
After a long spins, the profit /loss, result will always near equilibrium, meaning if u play FLATBET, u either lose or win only a few chips!
Given this kind of result, any labby strategy will win, as the   WIN/lose ratio will always more than 1/3.

quote:
[just bet spin 1,2,4,8,16 when you go to spin 16 start count again 1,2,4,8,16 and so on ... till the end....you should get "w"235/"l"265 it should work for any sequence]

Bet spin number 1, then bet spin number 2, then 4, then 8, then 16, so on till positive, and RESTART!....Bet NEXT spin AS number 1, then bet spin number 2, then 4, then 8, then 16, so on till positive, and RESTART!

Thus u avoid being trapped in the long losing streaks, and since the probability= near 50/50, then the result will always nearly equilibrium, win alittle or lose a little and with a godly progression, this betselection a good choice.


#425
This system is good only for the bet selection as it produce near equilibrium after a long FLAT-bet!
The million dollar grail lies in the PROGRESSION.
Any bet selection that produce nearly equal profit loss, after..., say 100 spins, is always a good bet selection, and throw in a godly PROGRESSION,  and it will be a constant winner!!!
#426
Double-street / Re: TRIGGER FOR DS
July 14, 2014, 10:26:12 AM
Quote from: wannawin on July 14, 2014, 03:37:23 AM
Must we use this once every 6 sets or look at the last 5 sets continually to play according to what comes out each hand? Is there any strategy for this? For example entering the game after a loss. Thank you very much.

   Hi, its look back at the last 5spins.

I am programming illiterate, hope any kind soul ,may do a thousand real data test,  of ,say, percentage wise,
how many ...

1]"only 4ds hit in six spins",
2] "only 3 ds hit in 6spins",
3]"only 2ds hit in 6 spins",
4] "only 1ds hit in 6 spins''
5] "only 5 ds hit in 6spins


Thus the simple strategy trigger=
1]"only 4ds hit in six spins",

At 5th spin, only 4ds hit, then bet the 4ds.

2] "only 3 ds hit in 6spins",

At 5th spin, only 3ds hit, then bet the OTHER
3ds that not being hit.

3]"only 2ds hit in 6 spins",


At 5th spin, only 2ds hit, then bet the OTHER
4ds that not being hit.

4] "only 1ds hit in 6 spins''
At 5th spin, only 1ds hit, then bet the OTHER
5ds that not being hit.


5] "only 5 ds in 6spins
At 5th spin, only 5ds hit, then bet the 
5ds that   being hit.

ZERO kills.

May some kind soul please
post the progression need and the RISK!

Thanks in advance.


#427
Roulette Forum / Re: Half Labby (w/65 Labby bonus)
July 14, 2014, 04:33:58 AM
 Hi Law,
U have any idea to solved this?  I can't as the staking out of my preferences.

[double  dozen bet, bet every spin] start with 1unit for both dozen.
LLLLLWLLLLLWLLLLLWLLLLLWLLLWLLLWLLLWLLWLWLWWWWWWWWWWW
#428
Roulette Forum / Re: Half Labby (w/65 Labby bonus)
July 14, 2014, 04:26:22 AM
 Thanks Law,
Unfortunately as u can't show step by step, its hard for me to understand.
Thanks anyway.
BTW, do u have any progression, or strategy, that good to win the double dozen bet???[Labby,Lanky or anything that  win mostly in, the average bet selection]
Thanks in advance.




#429
Roulette Forum / Re: Half Labby (w/65 Labby bonus)
July 14, 2014, 03:32:42 AM
Hi Law.,
Very interesting strategy, but can't understand,
May u please make a step by step example of betting below.

The 69 red in 200 spin is still the record.[ not 65win, in 200.]
The HP.Johnson and 1/65 LANKY DIVISOR,can beat , but alas not on BM casino as, the staking too complex.

HAMBURG 25/10/1999 TABLE TISH 1.
THE WORST EVER RECORDED OF 'RED' APPEAR ONLY 69 OUT OF 200 SPINS...
200 SPINS, START FROM SPIN NO 37..TO 237..BUT RECORDED BY ME AS NO. OF
SERIES.
RED APPEAR AT SPIN OF...3RD,5TH,7,10,12,16,21,23,
29,31,32,35,36,37,38,42,45,46,
52,55,58,62,65,68,69,71,75,77,80,90,92,95,97,101,102,104,114,
117,119,122,128,129,130,131,134,138,140,143,145,146,147,149,
150,154,155,158,163,164,168,171,172,174,175,180,184,187,192,
193,196..
ZERO=14,105,153,186,190,199.
IF U CAN FIND A SYSTEM TO WIN THESE SERIES, U MAY WIN AT CASINO.

69red appear in  worst roulette 200 spins ever recorded.
ZERO=14,105,153,186,190,199.


please show step to step how to beat this
spin =1th to 200th spin,x=red hit.



3x

5x
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#430
Double-street / TRIGGER FOR DS
July 12, 2014, 02:56:36 AM
Here some strategy as old as the roulette itself!
Nevertheless I post them here for some debate
and maybe new ideas from all members and guests.
Please post your opinion.,

DOUBLE STREET BET.

TRIGGER for DS bet
always wait for 5th spins:
Bet only on the 6th spin!



1]5 different ds hit after 5spins[bet that won't be 6/6].
Bet at 6th spin, bet all the previous 5DS.


2]4 ds hit after 5spins[bet that won't be 5/6].
Bet at 6th spin, bet all the previous 4DS.


3]only 3ds hit after 5spins.[bet that won't be 3/6].
Bet at 6th spin, bet  the OTHER 3 un-hit DS.

4] only 2ds hit after 5spins[bet that won't be 2/6].
Bet at 6th spin, bet  the OTHER 4 un-hit DS.


5]only 1ds hit after 5spins [bet that won't be 1/6].
Bet at 6th spin, bet  the OTHER 5 un-hit DS.






THANKS
#431
Quote from: TheLaw on July 11, 2014, 05:26:52 PM
Hey,


Not enough betting opportunities for my taste, but yes you could easily use a 3 or 4 loss streak as trigger. You would probably be looking at 2-3 bets per hour average (using both dozens and columns) :)


Law,[smiley]aes/joking.png[/smiley]
many people can't even win EVEN ONE UNIT PERDAY! !![smiley]aes/lol.png[/smiley]

IF  a system can win 1unit/day/365, and that unit=100, or 1000 dollar, what are we complaining about???[smiley]aes/love.png[/smiley]

We are looking for a slow but surely, not xciting but sorely ...!!! [smiley]aes/cry.png[/smiley]
Please make a test and share how its going...
THANKS.[smiley]aes/kiss.png[/smiley]
#433
(most losses I've witnessed is 4) :)

Hi Law,
Then wait for 2 or 3 losses streaks, as 'trigger', then bet the loss streak will not over 4. with your labby or hp, or marthy, but of course place a stop-loss!!!
Only 'trigger play' may overcome the "edge", and 'long losing streaks'.
Waiting for trigger may boring, but hey!, we not rushing to lose money..

Please make a test, and share the result...
thanks....
#434
QUOTE:[Finally, if you play long enough, eventually the math will always catch up with you. The goal is to profit long term, not win every game or session]

SINCE u have faith there many wins, [smiley]aes/wine.png[/smiley]long term, then this progression is better,  methink...[smiley]aes/pizza.png[/smiley]

llwlwlwlwww

monte carlo=1234678... so on till positive

1l=-2=-2
2l=-4=-6
3w=+3=-3
4l=-8=-11
5w=+5=-6
6l=-12=-18
7w=+7=-11
8l=-16=-27
9w=+9=-18
10w=+10=-8
11w=+11=+3

methink, this less suicidal, but of course, there are many better progressions out there.
Anyone kind enough  to show??[smiley]aes/vicious.png[/smiley][smiley]aes/wine.png[/smiley][smiley]aes/wink.png[/smiley][smiley]aes/tongue.png[/smiley]?

Your bet selection is good as it avoid suffering long losing streaks, but the your labby/HP progression very dangerous as it will deplete yr bankroll very fast!!![smiley]aes/vampire.png[/smiley]
With good progression, you will win long term, methink...[smiley]aes/wine.png[/smiley]

Thanks!


#435
let say l=lose, w=win
how to labby [HP.Johnson]the wl below
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l.l.l.wwwwww
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bet1/1=-2
l
l
l  lose of [l].l.l.wwwwww
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bet 1/1=-2=-4
l
ll
ll lose of [l].[l].l.wwwwww
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  bet 1/1=-2=-6

l   
lll
lll lose of [l].[l].[l].wwwwww
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bet 1/1=+1=-5


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llll win of [l].[l].[l].[w]wwwww
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bet 4/4=+4=-1
llll 
llll    win of [l].[l].[l].[w][w]wwww
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bet 4/4=+4=+3

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win of [l].[l].[l].[w][w][w]www
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how about llwlwlwlwww

bet 1/1=lose=-2
l
l
l
=lose=-2 [l]lwlwlwlwww
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bet 1/1=-2=lose
l
ll
ll
lose=-2=-4, [l][l]wlwlwlwww
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bet 2/2=+2
ll
ll
lll
win=+2=-2, [l][l][w]lwlwlwww
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bet 2/2=lose-4
ll
lll
lose=-4=-6, [l][l][w][l]wlwlwww
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bet 4/4=+4win
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lllll

win=+4=-2, [l][l][w][l][w]lwlwww
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bet 5/5=-10lose
lllll
lose=-10=-12,[l][l][w][l][w][l]wlwww
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bet 15/15=win=+15

lllll,llllllllll
win=15=+3net  ,[l][l][w][l][w][l][w]lwww
this is very dangerous as Mr Marthy kicks in when losing streaks!!!