Three different dz in three spins,


223
(123)...a single
233...

That a single of a permutation, among , (only two dz in three spins matrix)


Say,
123...follow by another three different dz in next three spins=33% minus green.

eg
123,
213....as a SERIES,  of TWO...(of three different dz matrix)

321,
123
231....=series of three

231,
321,
213,
231..=series of four.

And you will see series of five, six, seven  ...too!

Probability 33% for single..
66%..for series (of 2 and more)

Thus when you see a single, you may bet, it may go to series, or becoming a single...

eg..

You see..
123....bet next matrix may three different dz ....=33% chances. minus green


You see..
123...bet next matrix= only two, or only one dz..=66%....minus green

If you see..
111, follow by...
222, do you think that...it be follow by...
333...?

We can bet the highly unlikely coincidence,  though the probability remain the same...

Say,
If you see a repeat of matrix,

123, then..
123 again,
After a while,
123  hit, will the next three spin be...
123 again?


Or,
123, follow by..
111....
Then after a while...
123 hit, will the next three spins be...
111....again?

Thanks Stringbeanpc.



Say, what the probability , if

123, then 123 hit again,

thus 123, 123..
And then, other permutations hit for next tens of spins,

Now 123 hit again....will next three spins, be 123?again?


123
123....
×××
×××
×××
×××
123...now, will 123 hit again?...
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Other example...
Say,

312,then...
111.....
Xxx
Xxx...
312  hit,again,... (will 111 hit again, after 312 hit, repeating the previous 312, 111? Back to back?

Sputnik,
Wait for the extreme variance to pass, as your idea, that...wait  for 6losses, then a  fictive win, and start bet...

We could only bet the third spin, after the first and 2nd spin produced 2 different dozens.

eg.
1st =dz 1, 2nd=dz2, then we bet the 3rd spin=dz3.
Thus the probability= 33%, minus HE.


The reverse also true,
If we bet there only 2 different dozens in 3spins, =66%...minus HE.

The bad news is , extreme variance,  and it may not rtm in short run.  Though it quite STABLE  in 300+- spins, imho.

33%, minus HE.....as in pinwheel.

[quote author=Lugi link=topic=9954.msg64468#msg64468 date=1534111629


aiming for a 45~50% strike rate in the short term, than all you would have to do is wrap a mild negative progression around whatever it is, much more realistic
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100% agreed!
(This what I trying to say for so long,  but my poor english...sigh)

That selection, dd, a quite stable bet in long run, because, it not static, 66% minus HE, and always jumping around,  and mathboys can't dispute,
It always try to rtm, and with long variance occurance,  which the chart line move southeast in a  wave, thus 300 will result in 10+- losses, and 10000, 300+- losses flatbet...


We will see very long hits, an d long line of losses streaks, which  I believe this what GIZTMOTRON   found long ago...

The programmer savvy please do a few long testing chart, and we may see, since I a dummy here.
Thanks.

Gentlemen, my 1cent,

In double dozens bet,
Bet last dozen and next dz to the right,
Eg,
Last =dz1, then bet dz1&2,
Last =dz2, bet dz2&3,
Last =dz 3, brt dz3&1, zero disregard, and unfortunate losses...


When you make a long history bet as a long 300spins, you will see long sequence of streaks,
The double hit will be as long as 20 to 30 hit continuos hit, or 30spin  with only few losses in between,
We can't predict, but we can see after long streaks of dd hit, then , the other side will hit too, thus after 300 ispins, the flatbet result, mostly always within math HE EXPECTATION. ...Try it, you may like it...

Forget the marthy....it's a miscalculation!

But , ,....

The first vdw 256hit,  and...., lose 256
Thus it like betting 256black vs 256red balls in a bag....

Where u take out a ball and cast aside....

If it truly 256win  vs 256lose...
Then it's a ....grail?


Hope so....
Any ideas?

Mathwise, as Nickmsi said, it must surely hit as 1 plus 1 equal 2,

Thus assume that  no commision HE,
we bet 9hands for 512, then the marthy will surely win.

Any ideas?

512 times 9=4608 hands.

What if we bet with grand marthy?



W – 256 times....1u
L – 48 times
LW – 104 times 13 =6-4=2
LL – 32 times
LLW – 36 times 137=14-11=3
LLL – 16 times
LLLW – 10 times 137, 15=30-26=4
LLLL – 10 times  137, 15, 31=-57 times 10=-570u

Without 0(yes even if there is no house edge), just consider only R and B as an example. There are 512 combinations of 9 spin sets possible. Out of this 512 combinations, 406 combinations will give you a win and the rest will give you a loss. Sure a high win ratio inching towards 80%. But, the risk of losses will outweigh the impact of wins. See the following possibilities out of 512 combinations.

W – 256 times
L – 48 times
LW – 104 times
LL – 32 times
LLW – 36 times
LLL – 16 times
LLLW – 10 times
LLLL – 10 times
(Quote from Priyanka's)

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If we bet vdw with martingale, assumed that it will happen as Nickmsi said it must (?).



W – 256 times(win256u)
L – 48 times
LW – 104 times(win 104u)
LL – 32 times
LLW – 36 times(win36u)
LLL – 16 times
LLLW – 10 times((win10u)
LLLL – 10 times(LOSE 1248=15×10=-150UNITS!)

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OR we bet marty, after a first virtual lose...




W – 256 times(no bet)
L – 48 times(no bet)
LW – 104 times....win 104u
LL – 32 times
LLW – 36 times...win36u
LLL – 16 times
LLLW – 10 times...win 10u
LLLL – 10 times....Lose 124=7×10=-70units.

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Or after 2 losses.




W – 256 times
L – 48 times
LW – 104 times
LL – 32 times  no bet
LLW – 36 times...win 36u
LLL – 16 times
LLLW – 10 times...win 10u
LLLL – 10 times....lose 12=3×10=-30unit.

The above are correct IF ALL 512X9 HIT AS IT SOULD AS CLAIMED!
WITHOUT HE ZERO, OR COMMISSION THROWN IN....

Hi Nickmsi,
Thanks for your posts.

Imho, a very stable bet selection, is utmost,

if in every 1000spins/hand, session...

If we can have at least,  worst=-3%, on or before the 1000th,

then it very easy to profit.