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#91
General Discussion / Re: @SPUTNIK
June 27, 2018, 04:29:41 PM
Say, we bet only red, for 1spins,
Then the worst are a  black and a green.

If bet 2spins,
Then the worst are 2green, and 2 black, and black green or green black.

If 3spins ,
Then, 3green and 3black permutations,

The more hit you bet, then the permutation grow exponentially,
If unlucky, then bad, and worst permutation hit, and we lose our underwear...
The greatest problem, is we can't predict what permutation will hit in next 10, 20, 50, or 100spins,
Thus we try to filter them to avoid bad or extreme permutation, by waiting for bad permutation to appeared, then
hoping it won't happen back to back.

An example is,
Waiting for all six double streets to hit, in 6spins,
then bet all six won't hit in next six spins.
As back to back six in six spins, extremely rare.
#92
General Discussion / Re: @SPUTNIK
June 27, 2018, 04:13:32 PM
Dear Giz,
The next EC bet is 50%, albeit green,
But as a sequence, say next 10bet, bet only red,
Then there will be best and worst,

Lets forget about the green for a moment,

Then the best will be RRRRRRRRRR ten red in row,
And the worst will be BBBBBBBBBB ten black in row.

Second best will be a single black anywhere in the 10spins sequence,
So if we flatbet all to end of all PERMUTATION, IT still 50% win lose.

Thrown in the zero, it may appear anywhere, once twice thrice, or even 10zeros in row,
(the mathboys say so!)
Thus the house has better standing.

Your global which you milked the streaks of hit, the streaks also a permutation out of millions permutations.
Thus after a streaks of unhit, there may streaks of hit, or streaks of unhit,  depending on your luck.
We can't know what permutation will hit, in next say , next 50spins, AFTER a streaks of 50hits of double dozens,
that's why you can't always win.

Thus we need a filter, (if it exist), to have permutation, that hit within math expectation.
Say, dozen , single dz  to hit around 30%,
or double dz to hit around 60%, hoping for streaks to hit somewhere.

That why you and I, still can't win constantly, because our strategy always
hit A LOSING PERMUTATION, no matter what last past 50spins permutation had formed before.

Thus we need filter to have closer hit  to the math expectation permutation.
Filter may worked, by betting when a past strategic  pattern, hoping next hit to hit as close to expected %.
Then expecting within math permutations to hit, and win with progression.
If we go by the mathboys, then ALL STRATEGY,  systems,  method, are useless, we only depend on luck to bet.
#93
General Discussion / Re: @SPUTNIK
June 27, 2018, 02:36:34 PM
Dear Gizmotron,
With due respect,
The series single already researched to death since casino open a stall.

What they found is , they behaved as math expected, after very long run,
They may not, balanced, but always near rtm. As you see, we could wait for a streak to hit, then EXPECT THE OTHER SIDE TO HIT WITHIN MATH EXPECTATION,
Not expect the other to catch up.
likewise your global, which always hit within expectation, after a streak.
#94
General Discussion / Re: @SPUTNIK
June 27, 2018, 02:27:30 PM
Interesting to note that,  series vs single also happen in DOZENS of baccarat.
There series of same dozen,
And singles of a  dozen.

say, ABC = dozen 123.

AA, BBB, CCC =SERIES.(any repeat of dz)
ABABACABCA=LONG STREAK OF SINGLE.(no dozen repeat)
AAABCCC=SERIES, SINGLE, SERIES,

in long term also rtm to math expectation,
But we need to filter them, to expectation,  to avoid long snowballing of progression.


33% single
66% series, with green thrown in.
#95
General Discussion / Re: @SPUTNIK
June 27, 2018, 02:16:07 PM
When we have faith, that a strategy may always around50%.
(I said, MAY ALWAYS AROUND 50%)

Then....
a progression, that less deadly then the almighty Martingale,
Is 123456789....to positive, then stop.

The other less deadly then above, is..

112233445566778899...to positive, stop.
#96
General Discussion / Re: @SPUTNIK
June 27, 2018, 02:07:25 PM
BT ITSELF,
The series/single, may not ALWAYS NEAR balanced, but it is interesting to see that after....
1) after many SERIES of series, with little single, then the rest series single may near expectations

I said the REST.

if we see tens of series happened, with little single,
  then the REST tens of series single will always TEND to around 50%

The reversed also happened,
If we see long  tens  of single, with little SERIES, 
Then the REST of series vs single, TENDS to around 50%.

2) the
series/series/series,
Series/single/series,
Series/single/single,...
As expoused by Sputnik,
also very interesting to note, as filter to 50%.

3) follow the last,
series or single, to happen again , also very interesting.
After a series break, expect the next to series,
After a single break, expect the next to single...
expect a STREAK of series, or streak of single hit, after a long CHOPS hit.
(Series/single/series/single........)


We need virtual lose, and after a virtual win, expecting the rest will rtm in short term.
#97
General Discussion / Re: @SPUTNIK
June 27, 2018, 01:29:41 PM
Series/single already researched, to death, by many before, since first casino open shop,
By itself, it a filter to expected rtm, we need another filter, to filter the filtered , so to attain a better ratio
WITHIN MATH EXPECTATION, around 50%,
(I said AROUND 50%.)

We not looking for POSITIVE RESULT,
THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE, in long run.
we looking for a VERY STABLE METHOD, that always LOSE, if flatbet,
within the math expectation. slightly below 50%.

I said, FLATBET RESULT, that LOSE, as expected, within the math calculation.
The  newbie , google *MATH EXPECTATION, * for baccarat and roulette
#98
General Discussion / @SPUTNIK
June 27, 2018, 01:20:36 PM
Hi Sputnik aka Ego,
We all know you a respected expert in the SERIES/SINGLE  systems.

There a million dollar question, regarding the betting EC, as series/single bet,
as you see, they always tend to RTM, after long ecart,
But that long ecart is the real problem, when progression, even with very mild , and variance avoidance strategy,
tend to snowball to unmanageable level.

Do you have any idea how to manipulate , or filter them, so in short term, or very short term,( say 30 to 50 bet risked,   or taken),
the result very near to 50/50 win/lose ratio.


If we can have a strategy that always near 50/50, then we could outwait the short variance, after virtual win, and bet the rest with mild progression.


(With due respect, those without knowledge of series/single, may read previous thread of them, and refrain talking  rubbish here.)
#99
Using random to beat random

Will using random, to select a bet produce hit within the negative math expectation(flatbet lose1/37)?

Say, if we bet only red, then the risk is streaks of tens Black in row, or the worst ever recorded 69hit/200spins.

By using random, we may say, bet after every five spin, thus if streaks of 30blacks hit,
We  only bet at 1st, 7th, 13th, 19th, 25th, 31st spins,
And lose five spins instead of 30spins,
And if we go on, betting after every  5spins,
Will we hit streaks of ten losses, or we hit within expectation, flatbet?

The major and only purpose, is to hit within the negative math expectation, (which the erudite  mathboys keep nodding approval nods)

say,  every 100bets taken, only lose a few chips flatbet.
#100
Thanks Albalaha,
Albalaha's  idea, in his other threads,
Of stop betting when particular amount of variance hit is one of best strategy I ever learned.
#101
Thanks Alrelax,
Repetitive betting will stumbled upon deadly permutation, thus we need random to beat random, to produce hit within acceptable negative expectation.

Thanks Gizmotron,
Your idea of "awareness reading",
Filtering out the possible deadly permutation,  and take advantage of streaks.
And as you said earlier,  in another thread, non-streak, also a STREAK, (in its own right, and criss cross chopping alternate with another  visible Streak!)
#102
If we just, say , bet red, for next100spin,
We will also hit by permutations,
THAT have deadly and  marvelous STREAKS.

THUS, we must have a betselection, that seized the streaking to the hilt!

1) betselection that hit within math expectation.
2) betselection that seized the streaks to the hilt.

There are some permutations that won't RTM.
say after 100spins, the blacks will have more hit than thd red

Thus we must
3) have betselection that follow the leader.

The progression must mild, that take advantage of  STREAKY ...

Say, bet 1u for 50spins  ,then 2u for next 50spins...
Thus if the 100 spins has streaky, then will produce profit, if not the losses won't severe.


1u for 50spins,
2u for 50spins,
4u...
8u....martingale, stretcheeeed...


Trillion dollar question again,
Do you have a betselection, that always hit within the negative  mathexpectation, flatbet.

4) mild progression, to avoid huge losses.
#103
General Discussion / Using RANDOM to BEAT RANDOM!
June 18, 2018, 02:00:08 PM
Since variance kills the br,
Thus we need a betselection, to beat random,
to produce an end result THAT HIT WITHIN MATH EXPECTATION!

If we choose to bet, say, only RED, for 100spins,
the worst would be 100BLACKS in row, with zero in between...
(well, the mathboys said that possible, then we don't argue with them, lest...)
And the best will 100 RED in row, (well...)

100reds, and 100blacks in row, are two possible PERMUTATION, out of millions of possible permutations,
And many permutation, if flatbet , will cause huge losses, losses, and little losses, if we flatbet all 100spin, red only...

Thus if 100blacks appeared, then we lose 100units , flatbet,
And if 100reds appeared, then plus100 units profit....
But we never know what permutation, will appeared, in next 100spins.
We need a betselection , that will always hit within math expectation, in every next100spins!

Math expectation=36/37 eu wheel...edge=negative1/37...
(See? The mathboys nodding their heads, can't shriek their lung out...)
Thus expect 3, 4, 5, 6 or more units loss, in every 100spins, flatbet...
(Mathboys nodding again...)


The trillion dollars question,
If we could found a bet selection, that always hit only a few units losses, in every 100spins,
and compounded them with mild progression, virtual losses,  variance avoidance, and simple stoplosss....
Boy oh boy...!!!
#104
After reading thousands of threads debating why we lose...I THINK...
we lose because our methods , strategies, systems, voodoo,  guts, bla, bla, blah...
can't win over certain permutations...
There always one, two, three, or certain percentage of permutations,  that kill our br.

Lest the newbie can't understand. !,,
Here few easy example..

Say , we want to bet martingale for 10bets, in baccarat,  in no commission type...super6.
The  permutations will kill you.

1) Six, that pays half, ruin your br
2) 10 losing streaks....kills you.

In roulette, 10steps martingale.
only 10 losses in row kills,
But with pesky green zero thrown in, there will many permutations that kills

Say , you bet RED, MARTHY...
THE outcomes. ?.
1) 10BLACKS IN ROW.
2) 9BLACKS WITH A GREEN..
3) 8BLACKS WITH 2 GREEN.
4) 7 BLACK S WITH 3 GREEN...(an so on...till 10greens in row..oops! Not me, the mathboys say it possible mathwise!)

And in Labby,
Any rows with less than 33%, will soon take away your upperwear, and underwear....


And.." follow the last", lose when chopping goes on....

Follow second last, lose when the losing permutation hit...

Betting single dozen , flatbet, lose when less than 33% permutations hit
Double dozens, lose, when less than 66% hit...

Thus with whatever method, you devised, there will be certain permutation s that cause losses.

So how to win .?!?!

#105
My half cent...
The HE is for the casino versus the gamblers as ONE ENTITY.
Then..
Why people lose after many session?
Because their strategy or whatever system can't overcome certain PERMUTATIONS!

eg.
Martingale can't stand ONLY ONE streak of loss..eg, 10losses in row.
Labby can't overcome permutation that less than 33%.hits...
Flatbet can't stand less than 50% hit, no matter how long.

Every system or method or strategy you can think out, there WILL BE CERTAIN PERMUTATIONS
THAT KILL YOUR BR.

eg,
Lest you can't understand what I mean.

"Bet only once, red only."
There will  ONLY... three PERMUTATIONS
1) red....win.
2) black ....lose.
3) green...lose.

"BET BACCARAT,MARTINGALE, only enough br FOR 10bets..."
the PERMUTATION, that wipes out your br,
Ten losses in row.
But for roulette, there hundreds of permutation,
As the pesky green create losing permutation too.
eg..

LLLLLGLLLL as an example..

Thus Albalaha is right, its not the EDGE,
BUT LOSING PERMUTATION, THAT CAUSED THE LOSSE$!

Then the trillion dollar question, and the answer that cause
the demise of casino...

How to win by bypassing the losing permutation?

Albalaha already providing the answers, in his threads, but people just brushed it off...

1) avoidance , by waiting the losing permutation to hit first.
2) stop betting, when another losing permutation hit. To avoid more losing.
3) having a filtering system, that always producing hit within
losing math expectation.. (  yes..., losing,.. losing WITHIN MATH
EXPECTATION, or else, the math boys shrieking their lung out! Hehehe )say, next 1000bet flatbet,
Losing 30 to 40unit most of the time.

4) having mild progression, that will profit when STREAKS OF HIT HAPPEN....!
YES, streaks of hit very important, or else,  no progression
can produce profit.