In fact, I just checked and they both have the same company registration number and address.

They are still my favourite. They have a choice of two live casinos to play at. Either the Fitzwilliam Club or the Palace Casino.

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Hello esoito,

It's called View Casino. They have the same feed as dublinbet. (In fact it would not surprise me if they are the same company.) I like the fact that View Casino don't convert my pounds into euros and then back into pounds when I withdraw.

I remember reading somewhere that it's a probably a good idea to avoid these conversions because the player always seems to lose out by a bit.

So far, so good. It's certainly a challenge because the dealers don't hang around. Playing the streets doesn't offer me the same flexibility as the splits or single numbers. However, at least I can get my bets down on time. 

Played another 56 games and this time the variance was back on my side in full force!

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I estimate that I have played around 1700 splits which is not far away from 300 e/c bets. So a 300 unit profit for +50 is not bad going so far.

Today was a real grind and ended up as a marathon session.

In total, I played 290 games taking the games played up to 322.



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There are times when it feels like you are getting nowhere fast with a flat betting approach. However variance works both ways and it's sometimes just a case of riding out the storm.

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Session 4.

25) 3 streets. WON.
26) 3 streets. LOSS.
27) 2 streets. LOSS.
28) 5 streets. WON.
29) 6 streets. WON.
30) 5 streets. WON.
31) 6 streets. WON.
32) 5 streets. LOSS.

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112 streets / 32 spins = 3.5 streets per spin. (15 wins)

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Session 3.

17) 3 streets. LOSS.
18) 3 streets. LOSS.
19) 2 streets. LOSS.
20) 4 streets. LOSS.
21) 5 streets. WON.
22) 6 streets. WON. (I put an extra chip on the winning street here by accident)
23) 5 streets. WON.
24) 4 streets. LOSS.

77 streets / 24 spins = 3.2 streets per spin. (10 wins)

This is exactly how I like to play in B+M casinos. Very short bursts looking for a couple of consecutive wins which give a profit.

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That's me done for tonight. 43 units is roughly +7 betting the equivalent of 13 e/c bets. (That's not counting the lucky extra 11 units)

cheers

Quote from: NathanDetroit on June 25, 2014, 08:47:38 PM
Then why not bet EC to begin with ?

I am not too keen on betting anything above a street like a line, dozen or e/c.

The streets, splits or single numbers are the most workable from all of my studies. Now betting any or all of these three to create an e/c can work great as well.

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Session 2.

10) 2 streets. LOSS.
11) 6 streets. LOSS.
12) 4 streets. LOSS.
13) 1 street. LOSS.
14) 2 streets. WON.
15) 1 street. WON.
16) 2 streets. WON.

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So that's 45 streets bet which equals to 7 and a half e/c bets. I have had 7 wins.

The average streets I am betting so far (45/16=roughly 3) is low. My game is based on a spin by spin analysis and so it can come in any shape or form. The trick is to be able to react accordingly. It should average out to just over 5 streets bet eventually. It will show the robustness of my strategy however. I only allowed myself the capital for 40 e/c bets.

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Here is an issue however....

I am just going to bet the streets in this challenge and nothing else.

However I don't always bet 6 streets which equals an e/c.

Here are the first few results....


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The bets were as follows....

1) 2 streets. LOSS.
2) 5 streets. WON.
3) 5 streets. LOSS.
4) 1 street. LOSS.
5) 2 streets. LOSS.
6) 3 streets. WON.
7) 2 streets. WON.
8} 5 streets. WON.
9) 2 streets. LOSS.

So I suppose the answer is to add up all the streets and divide them by 6. This will represent how many e/c bets I have placed.

I bet a total of 27 streets above which equals four and a half e/c bets and I had 4 wins. (That's actually quite confusing, lol)

ok...I am ready to go now and show how it's done. 

I was reading an interesting thread over on Rouletteforum.cc where Skakus came out ahead +150 units over 8,000 placed bets and finished with a z-score of near 5. That's impressive stuff considering he should have been down around 200 units without the en prison rule.

Don't get me wrong. I have read posts where people have been ahead after 1/2 a million spins. But how many attempts did it take and was it repeatable. So it will be interesting to see how long it takes me to get to +150. I don't think it will take me as long as Skakus. Playing 6 streets as an e/c opposed to either red/black etc offers a lot more room for manoeuvre IMO.

Nothing is going to happen quick. I will probably be able to fit in around 40/50 placed bets a night. Dublinbet spin too quick during the day unless there are a few players are at the table.

Quote from: Mike on June 22, 2014, 12:18:35 PM
Bally,


I appreciate the gesture, and looking forward to your results.


I'd like to volunteer to be that someone. 

Cheers and no problem. I would trust you to report the facts. 

When it all boils down to it, the only way to keep the naysayers quiet (for a little while at least) is to prove you can win.

The only way to do that is in a fashion that they can understand and can't really dispute.

The answer lies in statistics. There is a concept in statistics called ''Chance of Randomness'' (COR). This is an exact statistical measurement of how 'lucky' a series of events are.

The COR figure is derived by computing the Standard Deviation of an event. The Standard Deviation measures how much better the results are compared to random.

A +4.0 Standard Deviation represents a COR of 31,574. There is almost no question that skill was involved if someone performs at that level. Especially on their first attempt.

Myself and a few others it seems were quite happy to take the test on the in-house game on the other forum before it vanished. So I will challenge myself against the live wheel at Dublinbet and post up the results.

My play will comprise of an even money bet. However that's not playing the outside E/C bets. I said above that I don't believe you can win consistently playing those.

My idea of an E/C bet is a combination of Streets, Splits and Single numbers which will comprise of no more than an E/C bet. (sometimes less)

I will start on Monday and dedicate a few hours each day to playing. My play is in short bursts because of the taxing nature of tracking and analysing the permanence looking for bets to place. I will achieve the minimum COR requirement of +4.0 standard deviations as mentioned above.

Naturally, I don't mind someone checking my account when I have finished to make sure everything was above board.

cheers

Quote from: esoito on June 20, 2014, 11:38:03 PM
Definitions of System

(We all need to be singing from the same sheet!)

   
• A group of independent but interrelated elements comprising a unified whole
• A complex of methods or rules governing behaviour
• A procedure or process for obtaining an objective

Sounds good to me!   

I was just watching France dismantle Switzerland 5-2 and they looked good.

That's 8 goals so far in their 2 group games. They are 4/1 to finish as the top European team.

Germany are the 1/1 favourites. That price looks skinny compared to the 4/1 for the French.

Here is a good analogy,

Many years ago, I was at Catterick racecourse and a friend of mine introduced me to Mary Reveley who was one of the better trainers at that particular time.  We had a 5 minute chat and I will always remember her telling me that I wouldn't find many of her winners in the formbook.

It was a good lesson to learn early on my gambling life. You need to apply filters to sort out the wheat from the chaff and roulette is not that much different in my opinion.

I agree with XXXV about looking under the surface to see what you can find. In fact, there are quite often more 'elegant patterns' than you can shake a stick at going on. But you won't be aware of them if you limit your approach to just one particular type of bet.

There are many games going on within games depending on how you look at things. Some of those games will be throwing up an unequal level of distribution which can be taken advantage of in short bursts.

We can't change the odds, but we can decide when to bet, where to bet and how much to bet. It's important to think positive and look for different angles that can deliver a quick knockout punch and not get bogged down in the 'long run'.

cheers

I voted no.

It is possible to have a consistent winning Roulette system.

I will list some of my thoughts.

•   You can't win betting every spin. (You need to be able to identify when the permanence is going against everything you bet)
•   You can't win just betting the E/C bets. (A winning system needs to be varied in the approach)
•   You can't increase your stake after a losing bet. (It makes no logical sense to increase your stakes when your predictions are wrong)

The great thing about Roulette in my opinion is the odds on offer for the streets, splits and single numbers. Unlike Baccarat where you can only win at 1/1 or BJ where you may get lucky hitting a few splits, roulette offers the opportunity to win big in just a few spins if you are correct with your predictions.



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