Quote from: Mick on June 10, 2014, 09:19:04 AM
This will at least allow me to keep my original investment and attempt to make profit with the casinos money.

Wise words Mick 

In gambling, the key is to control your losses and capitalize on winning streaks. In other words, to lose as little as possible and win as much as possible.

Simply stated, keep to a low average bet while you are losing and bet more everytime you win. Most people do just the opposite, doubling up when they are losing in a foolish attempt to get their losses back fast, and restricting themselves by becoming conservative when they begin to win. It's the old story of self-preservation. Casinos are so plush and luxurious because people don't always cut their losses but they cut their winnings.

cheers

Quote from: Garnabby on June 09, 2014, 10:23:18 PM

That's it, you have to beat the random game.  Forget about the edges, etc, for the specific casino games.  But, you have to beat the random game in a way in which its "edges" can negate that of the casinos'.

You are right of course Garnabby. Anything else will not last '10 minutes'.

Interestingly enough, I also have looked into working in groups of three for the e/c games and there is a lot of promise there. It makes sense to attack Baccarat with the lower vig. The only thing that would put me off is the time sitting at a Baccarat table not betting. It's no problem sitting out spins at a roulette terminal where nobody is really paying any attention.

Anyway, thanks for a very good post. 

Here is another angle to attack this from if you have the time!

Some numbers from today.....

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Looking at the dozens, you can see that there is a high concentration of L's over a short space of time.

So the mongoose double dozens strategy would not be turning over a profit here. (at least not using the dozens)

But the good news is that a string of L's for two dozens means there is an opportunity to attack the other single dozen.

Looking down to the number 23, the missing dozen is 1.

Dozen 1 then appears (loss) and now you have alternate 2/3.

Dozen 1 appears again (loss) and now you have missing 3.

Dozen 3 appears (loss) and now you have missing 2.

So you can choose to play these single dozens or columns when you have a high concentration of L's in the L/W registry.

It's just another string to add to the bow. It's always a good idea to have several angles to attack from forming more of a strategy as opposed to a mechanical method. You can never say how things are going to pan out beforehand and it is better to be prepared for whatever you may encounter at the tables.

cheers

Hello LeapyFrog,

Raucher means smoker and nichtraucher means non-smoker. (according to my Babylon translator)

I have played this a lot over the last few months at B+M casinos with some good results.

What I like to do is monitor both the dozens and the columns and see which one is just producing single losses in the L/W registry. (There is really no need to be betting every spin) I will bet the one with the least concentration of L's.

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The above picture shows how I chart in the casino.

Looking at the dozens....

The 2nd and 3rd are showing. (Therefore the missing dozen is 1)

The 1st dozen eventually shows and the last three results are 3rd, 2nd and 1st....so now it's alternating and I would be looking for the 2nd and 3rd dozen on the next spin. The 2nd dozen appears and so I am looking for the 1st and 3rd dozen on the next spin to continue with the alternation.

It's easy once you get the hang of it.

This modified 'mongoose' progression seems to work really well with the double dozens. It throws up enough wins in clumps to forge ahead.

cheers

I noticed the site has had a bit of an update with some fancy new pictures.

Here is a direct link to the numbers.

http://www.spielbank-wiesbaden.de/index.php?id=101&L=1

Fourth 18.

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0/00 = 3. (-1)
1/2 = 5. (+1)
5/6 = 2. (-2)
7/8 = 3. (-1)
11/12 = 6. (+2)
13/14 = 2. (-2)
17/18 = 4. (0)
19/20 = 2. (-2)
23/24 = 4. (0)
25/26 = 2. (-2)
29/30 = 8. (+4)
31/32 = 1. (-3)
35/36 = 5. (+1)

4 splits above expectation.

1/2. (+1)
11/12. (+2)
29/30. (+2)
35/36. (+1)

So the 11/12 is a mainstay so far and the 29/30 was a bit of a late streaker.

I hope you get the general idea.  A lot of the splits will stay absent from the above expectation list.
Some will fizzle out like the 0/00. Some will coast along like the 11/12 and you will get some come from nowhere like the 29/30.

*You can also see how the 11/12 and 29/30 splits are next to each other on the wheel layout and starting to take shape as the dominant opposites.

A lot more study to be done and trying out different concepts for experimentation.

cheers.

Third 18.

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0/00 = 3. (0)
1/2 = 2. (-1)
5/6 = 1. (-2)
7/8 = 2. (-1)
11/12 = 4. (+1)
13/14 = 2. (-1)
17/18 = 4. (+1)
19/20 = 2. (-1)
23/24 = 2. (-1)
25/26 = 2. (-1)
29/30 = 6. (+3) a streaker!
31/32 = 1. (-2)
35/36 = 3. (0)

Now there are 3 splits above expectation.

11/12. (+1)
17/18. (+1)
29/30. (+3)

Second 18.

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0/00 = 3. (+1)
1/2 = 1. (-1)
5/6 = 1. (-1)
7/8 = 1. (-1)
11/12 = 4. (+2)
13/14 = 1. (-1)
17/18 = 3. (+1)
19/20 = 0. (-2)
23/24 = 2. (0)
25/26 = 1. (-1)
29/30 = 2. (0)
31/32 = 0. (-2)
35/36 = 2. (0)

Now there are 3 splits above expectation.

0/00. (+1)
11/12. (+2)
17/18. (+1)

Just as a quick experiment, I will grab 18 spins at a time and see how things pan out.

First 18.

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Now let's see how many times the 13 splits have appeared. The average of course should be 1.

0/00 = 3. (+2)
1/2 = 0. (-1)
5/6 = 1. (0)
7/8 = 1. (0)
11/12 = 2. (+1)
13/14 = 0. (-1)
17/18 = 2. (+1)
19/20 = 0. (-1)
23/24 = 2. (+1)
25/26 = 1. (0)
29/30 = 2. (+1)
31/32 = 0. (-1)
35/36 = 0. (-1)

There are 5 splits that are above expectation.

0/00. (+2)
11/12. (+1)
17/18. (+1)
23/24. (+1)
29/30. (+1)

Thank you Wheelwatcher,

It's ok, I have a copy of that. I will dig it out and have another look at it.

It's interesting what you say Wheelwatcher because another thing that I frequently noticed was how these spikes frequently migrated just a fraction from day to day.

So for example on the Monday.....

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....and then go back on the Tuesday.

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So the spikes have just slightly moved.

I don't know why this happens because I have not really studied it. But is it something to do with air pressure that changes or maybe along those lines which causes the migration? 

It is certainly interesting. 

The American 00 wheel is fascinating having compared it to the European single 0 wheel.

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What I particularly like about it is how 13 of the split bets are practically the opposite of each other on the wheel layout.

You have the following.....

0/00
1/2
5/6
7/8
11/12
13/14
17/18
19/20
23/24
25/26
29/30
31/32
35/36

Now something I have noticed over many years of play is how quite often you can get very distinct spikes showing hot numbers more or less directly opposite of each other.

So using the splits as shown above on the American 00 wheel may present opportunities to construct a bet where you can keep the outlay low.

Here is a 200 spin example I just created.....

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200 spins / 18 = 11.11. So a split should have appeared on average 11 times.

So looking at the above picture, I am looking for any of my splits that have appeared over 11 times.

0/00 = 15 times.
11/12 = 16 times.
23/24 = 12 times.
25/26 = 13 times.

So 4 of the 13 splits have performed above expectation.

I will do some further research on this because it looks promising.

cheers

Hello Number Six,

I was just making the comment that you have more leverage on the dozens/columns as opposed to the E/C's.

Suppose you were playing a 3 step parlay on the E/C's for 7/1. You are risking the profit and original stake on step 2.

With the dozens/columns, a 2 step parlay and you can take back your original stake if you win the first step and at least guarantee a break even situation. But of course the possibility to still come out with a 6 unit total profit. So less of a grind than some E/C bets.

cheers.

Quote from: Number Six on February 26, 2014, 12:52:48 AM

Achieving a mathematical edge is almost impossible, I have never seen anything on any forum that would even come close. In the event, however, we'd be lucky to get 3-5% long term. Even with that, flat betting would not suffice, the risk of ruin is simply still too high.

A bit of creativity may help things.

I like to group things together instead of betting for just single decisions.

So for even chances... BBB, BBR, BRR, BRB, RRR, RRB, RBB, RBR.  A 7/1 payout.


but even better in my opinion are the dozens/columns.

1-1, 1-2, 1-3, 2-1, 2-2, 2-3, 3-1, 3-2, 3-3. An 8/1 payout, but with a lot more leverage for all kinds of MM techniques.

So it all becomes less of a grind compared to the up 1, down 1 (going nowhere fast) routine.