Hello

This could be a great area where we share info on gambling related material.

My favourite game is Roulette and I have many books on the subject. So I will attempt to re-read them all and share some info.

I make an effort to try and re-invest some of my roulette winnings into books that I think look interesting. Many people do something similar in all areas of life....like taking that P.C. course to improve your skills and job prospects. So why should our gambling enterprises be any different.

One thing I am not looking for in a roulette book is the 'holy grail'. I would be constantly dissapointed if that was the case. What I am looking for is to hopefully learn one little piece of info that I can add to what I already know or maybe get an idea or two that can spark some creative thinking.

So on with the show.....

The first book I am going to review is 'Gamble to win: Roulette' by R.D. Ellison.

I just received it yesterday and I am almost finished. I have known about this book for several years and the claims by the author of a 7% edge over a 00 wheel. It has kind of had mixed reviews on the various forums.

The centrepiece of the book is the 3Q/A reverse method. I will need to explain this in my own words so as not to infringe on any copyright. Thankfully it is not a complicated method and I was surprised by the simplicity of it. I thought it might be much more complicated than what it is.

I will run some tests and come back and explain the idea with my results and we can see if it holds up to tha author's claims. I am not holding my breathe to be honest...but hey, you never know!

cheers

Quote from: Turner on November 23, 2013, 09:25:22 PM
Online casinos want to take away any advantage you may have in the casino. faster spins are a way.

Yeah, makes sense!

There were times I had just finished working out my bet when the next round of cards were coming out of the shoe.  The thing I like about dublinbet and their baccarat is you can play against a live shoe for 10 cents a game. So it's great for testing out any strategies against a live shoe. (not so great if you can't work your bet out in 15-20 seconds)

cheers

I was playing at a few casinos today and the speed of the dealing is ridiculous in some cases.

Dublinbet Punto Banco (baccarat) is around 2/3 hands a minute with no players at the table.

The roulette there seems pretty fast as well.

I notice all the Playtech casinos have around 20 second spins as well.

Does this put any of you guys off? Do you prefer playing RNG because of this?

I am curious. Somebody once said 'system' players lose more money than anybody else. So why anger them by spinning like the clappers. Is it because more online players are likely to be using a system compared to the B+M players and are a bit more savvy.

The only casino that seems to give you a bit of extra time is Smartlive with their 60 second spins.

Does it all just boil down to the fact that they are greedy and more spins per minute = more [smiley]aes/money.png[/smiley].  (probably)

Cheers Vic!

Yes of course.....there is nothing stopping us sharing ideas in our own words so as to prevent any breach of copyright.

The collective library we must have between us would probably take 2 libraries to fill up.

I just received a copy of 'Gamble to win roulette' by R.D. Ellison this morning.

That will be my first review.

He promises a 7% edge. (not sure about that however [smiley]aes/smile.png[/smiley])

  New Zealand 20  defeated England 18.

What a bruising encounter that was!

England did themselves proud putting up a very bold show. The game was decided in the last minute by England giving away a silly penalty leading to a Kiwi try.

Fair play to the Kiwis and good luck to them in the Final.

Going down the handicap route lost me a few sheckles.


I should not jinx my bet.
I should not jinx my bet.
I should not jinx my bet.
I should not jinx my bet.
I should not jinx my bet.

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I did get it back however on a quick game of live roulette!   

The action hots up today in the first Semi-Final at Wembley Stadium.

I think New Zealand have a great opportunity to book their place in the Final at the expense of England and face Australia who should beat Fiji later on with the minimum of fuss.

The Kiwis look the in-form team to me, in this comp and have superstars across the park.

Most of their players compete in the Australian NRL.

Quite a few of them (Sonny Bill-Williams, Jared Warrea-Hargreaves and Roger Tuivasa-Shek) play for the Sydney Roosters who have just won the Premiership back in October. Throw in Foran from Manly and the Bunnies hooker Isaac Luke and you are looking at a strong classy outfit.

I watched England against France in the Quarter Final last week and they dissapointed me. They looked slow and pedestrian in attack and I am not convinced they have the intensity in defence to stop the Kiwis scoring 4-5 tries.

Looking at the betting....

Ladbrokes are going 10/11 giving England a 6 point start. (This equals a converted try)

Alternatively.....you can get 4/9 on a Kiwi Win in 80 minutes.

I am going down the handicap route.

This IMO is one of those 5* betting opportunities that does not come around too often.

As they say in the trade......Fill yer boots! 

cheers

How about a section on Roulette books?

There are 500 members, and we have likely read everything out there between us all.

A thread could discuss a book and also suggest improvements that have been made along the way.

It would be good to have it all in one section as a reference point.

cheers

Definately the best book I have read on Roulette in 2013!

A lot of good stats in the book and he covers most aspects of the game.

The Kindle version is a lot cheaper than the hard copy for anybody interested.

cheers

Hello esoito,

Yes! It works out at about another £30 on top of the book price + postage. (total £160)

I had never noticed the import charges myself until I had a second look the other day.

Still think it's a bargain considering what some guys are paying for the actual book itself if they can get hold of it.

The guys that have shelled out 1k-2k for a copy on the AP forums all say it was money well spent and have recouped the price of the book and then some more on top.

It seems some of the games where you can get an edge are on the various side bets you can make at certain card games. These type of bets are popping up all over the place in the UK now.

There was a recent games convention in London showcasing a lot of new games that could end up on the gaming floor.

Now one bit of info I got reading between the lines of the book review is that it is possible to transfer over some of these AP techniques to different games or at least have an idea of how to go about it.

So there could be an opportunity in the UK with all these new types of bets. Who knows?

So I consider buying the book a bit of an educated gamble.

cheers

Tom...don't get the wrong idea, I am not saying you are affiliated with these guys.

This is probably the oldest trick in the book!

Take the second video as an example.

I can log on to supercasino and get a 500 fun balance and do that all day until I get a good hit on a number.

There is nothing to see here....same goes for the first video.

If these guys were for real...

The video would show them depositing money into the account and playing and then withdrawing the winnings. Now this IMO would be the right way to do it....and if they showed 3-6 months of constant winnings....you might actually think they have something. However anybody that could do that really wouldn't want to be posting videos up on youtube.

cheers

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Detailed-notes-on-the-2009-James-Grosjean-book-Beyond-Counting-Exhibit-CAA-/290922970307?pt=US_Nonfiction_Book&hash=item43bc5c3cc3

I have been reading about this book over the last few days and supposedly it's hard to get hold of and goes for around 1k-2k a pop.

Anyway...this guy is offering all the pertinent notes from the book.

He explains in a short youtube video at the bottom of the page.

cheers


p.s. And just in case anyone has a copy....I always help little old ladies across the street and I am a devout Christian....honest!!

One important thing to consider in all of this is the psychcological aspect of playing just a few numbers.

These kind of things don't get discussed so often but I can tell you from experience that it takes a lot of patience playing this way. The days will come where you swear the wheel is out to get you when you hit the next door neighbour for the umpteenth time.

Of course there is always a trade off between risk and reward....but you need to feel comfortable with a playing style and this way is not for everyone. A few near misses and you can go from having a strategy to no strategy within minutes. Never a good thing at the tables.

cheers

Quote from: Mr J on November 12, 2013, 04:23:20 AM

Oh, oh......got a live one. The "you can't win" crew is back. (lol)


Ken

Hey Ken,

I think it's more a case of these guys are devoid of any original thinking and lack a good work ethic to find a winning bet, lol.

So they come on here now and then and use the 'good cop, bad cop' routine looking for a freebie.

You can spot them because they contribute nothing and make statements like.....

'I might share some stuff in the future'     We shouldn't hold out much hope for that,lol.

The good news is the casino still pays out the winners regardless. 

Quote from: TwoCatSam on November 05, 2013, 11:20:01 PM
The CWB is like the Loch Ness monster. 

LoL....

The time to start getting worried is when a new poster called 'Big Foot' turns up with some clues!

Funny enough....the name Vermeer rings a bell....but not from the forums.

He might have posted in some of the Q+A pages on the CEH pages.

Don't ask!! I have a long memory.

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I edited my last few posts because frankly speaking......it's a load of nonsense! [smiley]aes/wink.png[/smiley]

Common sense and a bit of critical thinking regarding the clues in this thread will tell you why no such bet ever existed.


.....and for that reason!  I'm out.