Tom...don't get the wrong idea, I am not saying you are affiliated with these guys.

This is probably the oldest trick in the book!

Take the second video as an example.

I can log on to supercasino and get a 500 fun balance and do that all day until I get a good hit on a number.

There is nothing to see here....same goes for the first video.

If these guys were for real...

The video would show them depositing money into the account and playing and then withdrawing the winnings. Now this IMO would be the right way to do it....and if they showed 3-6 months of constant winnings....you might actually think they have something. However anybody that could do that really wouldn't want to be posting videos up on youtube.

cheers

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Detailed-notes-on-the-2009-James-Grosjean-book-Beyond-Counting-Exhibit-CAA-/290922970307?pt=US_Nonfiction_Book&hash=item43bc5c3cc3

I have been reading about this book over the last few days and supposedly it's hard to get hold of and goes for around 1k-2k a pop.

Anyway...this guy is offering all the pertinent notes from the book.

He explains in a short youtube video at the bottom of the page.

cheers


p.s. And just in case anyone has a copy....I always help little old ladies across the street and I am a devout Christian....honest!!

One important thing to consider in all of this is the psychcological aspect of playing just a few numbers.

These kind of things don't get discussed so often but I can tell you from experience that it takes a lot of patience playing this way. The days will come where you swear the wheel is out to get you when you hit the next door neighbour for the umpteenth time.

Of course there is always a trade off between risk and reward....but you need to feel comfortable with a playing style and this way is not for everyone. A few near misses and you can go from having a strategy to no strategy within minutes. Never a good thing at the tables.

cheers

Quote from: Mr J on November 12, 2013, 04:23:20 AM

Oh, oh......got a live one. The "you can't win" crew is back. (lol)


Ken

Hey Ken,

I think it's more a case of these guys are devoid of any original thinking and lack a good work ethic to find a winning bet, lol.

So they come on here now and then and use the 'good cop, bad cop' routine looking for a freebie.

You can spot them because they contribute nothing and make statements like.....

'I might share some stuff in the future'     We shouldn't hold out much hope for that,lol.

The good news is the casino still pays out the winners regardless. 

Quote from: TwoCatSam on November 05, 2013, 11:20:01 PM
The CWB is like the Loch Ness monster. 

LoL....

The time to start getting worried is when a new poster called 'Big Foot' turns up with some clues!

Funny enough....the name Vermeer rings a bell....but not from the forums.

He might have posted in some of the Q+A pages on the CEH pages.

Don't ask!! I have a long memory.

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I edited my last few posts because frankly speaking......it's a load of nonsense! [smiley]aes/wink.png[/smiley]

Common sense and a bit of critical thinking regarding the clues in this thread will tell you why no such bet ever existed.


.....and for that reason!  I'm out.

6th sense, I personally think you are out of order advertising nicksmi's bot with the same method that Normy created.

This is a roulette community.....not the cut and thrust of the business world.

It doesn't exactly foster the idea of sharing your work.

I sincerely hope anybody who decides to pay for the bot goes to the original creator (Normy) and orders the bot from him considering that's what the guy does.

Sheesh!! [smiley]aes/pirate.png[/smiley]

Ahhh!!

I thought this was going to be a serious thread as well.

It's just your razor sharp wit! 

Quote from: esoito on October 30, 2013, 10:49:11 PM


It's been noted several times elsewhere that demos use a different software algorithm to the software used for playing for money.

In other words, players have noted they win easily (if that's the right word) when in demo mode, but the minute they switch to real money mode the wheels start to fall off.

So many have observed this phenomenon that it can't just be pooh-poohed and written off as coincidence.

The 64k question:  is BV into that sort of duplicity?

It may be that BV throw out what could be considered 'user-friendly' numbers in demo mode.

Now who is to say they can't throw out 'unfriendly' strings of 60 spins which will defeat a lot of the 'garden variety' types of progressions out there.

The randomness control can work perfectly....but that does not mean it is still not just a fancy gimmick.

These online casinos have been operating for years. Who is to say they have not done research into producing what you could define as psuedo random numbers which can adapt to certain playing styles.

Ken, I play single numbers myself and I find a lot of the wins come pretty close together in clusters.

Yesterday was an extraordinary day at the B+M casino because they were hitting within a frequency of less than 10 spins apart for a good while. So obviously this is easy to take advantage of.

I will pull my horns in if I don't get a hit within 20 spins. There are also times now that I may not even bet if I go a few 15-20 spin cycles without a hit.

What I never see is a hit coming every 37 spins, lol. So it's not really that difficult to make decisions regarding MM in my opinion betting one number.

It's either working or it's not working as 'gizmo' would say.

If you are winning long term betting single numbers, you will definately get a feel for when things are going your way or not.

cheers

How often are the hits coming?

Do you believe you actually have an edge? / have you taken into account your 'risk of ruin' ?

(the risk of ruin is the chance that the standard deviation will wipe out your bankroll before you have had a chance to win an amout which corerelates with your advantage)

I am not trying to be funny....but you can't expect concrete answers if you ask vague questions with little information to go on.

But one thing for sure! No good player IMO would be reducing his bets when he is winning (assuming he has an edge in bet selection which is the only way you are going to win long term.)

cheers

Here is RWD's summary of 566 sessions.

He suggested to play 3 strings on a wheel and then quit if no winner.

So 1 means a win on the first string on spin 1.

LL1 means the first two strings lost and the third string won on spin 1.

These figures look almost too good to be true and old Roy may have been cooking the books 

But what I can say is that it was a popular foil for many savvy blackjack players down the years.

cheers

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RWD has a chart in his book with betting scales and plateaus that you can use going up and down depending on the success you are having.

Here it is. It's in old money but can be easily converted.

The RWD way is betting for 9 spins. I noticed Mike McBain's suggestion is to go for 13.

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I like the odd game for low stakes to see if I can hit something!

It will pay for a few drinks. [smiley]aes/wine.png[/smiley]

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.....and now the Man Utd fightback!

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