Here is something that has always intrigued me.

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So that's 372 spins. Probability suggests each number should appear 10 times.

However three of the numbers (9, 27 and 34) have appeared 16, 17 and 17 times respectively.

I have looked at a lot of these bar graphs and it's not uncommon to see a few numbers showing 50% + of the expected hit rate.

It seems to get more out of whack once you start going past the first few cycles.

This is where I am just going to unleash some of the ideas that come into my head from time to time regarding roulette.

Feel free to add your own. 

Corals are only going 11/4 for Trap 3 and a really stingy 10/3 for trap 5.

I didn't really explain how the results are worked out.

You take the first 14 races from each meeting and give 1 point to the winning trap.

The winner of the Trap Challenge is the dog with the most points.

Of course you can get a tie and I have had a triple dead heat once.

You just half your stake on a tie.

Example.....

You put £10 on a 4/1 selection.

Half of that is £5 going on at 4/1. Return = £25.

A triple dead heat and you would divide your stake by a third.

cheers.

Yesterday resulted in a 1 point loss.

So I am down 2 1/2 points so far.

Today the Trap Challenge is at Newcastle +Poole.

Trap 3 is 20 points clear on my ratings and I make it a strong bet.

Trap 5 is also a good few points clear of the other 4 dogs if I take out Trap 3.

So my bets for today are as follows.....

2 point win on Trap 3 which is 7/2 with William Hill.

1 point win on trap 5 which is 9/2 with William Hill.

Trap 3 will be the icing on the cake or Trap 5 will take me back to all level for this particular challenge.

I really can't see past 3 or 5 today.

cheers.

The manager in Tesco's said the burgers were not flying off the shelves like they used to.

I suggested lowering them by a few pounds. 

I will get my coat! 

Great jokes by the way!

You need to be careful of some of these guys selling software.

There is an outfit in Harrogate calling themself Brimardon Racing (horseracing) and they charge a fortune as well. We can all pick our own losers. 

There are a lot of sites on the net that can teach you how to compile your own ratings.

Well yesterday was a loss.

On to today and Trap 6 is well clear on my points tally.

The Trap Challenge today (15th February) is at Swindon + Monmore.

The price for Trap 6 with William Hill is 7/2. (3/1 with Coral's  )

My advice is a 1 point win on Trap 6 to win todays Trap Challenge.

Day 1. LOSS.  -1 1/2 points. (I am including the saver bet I suggested on Trap 3)

cheers 

Quote from: Superman on February 14, 2013, 01:07:23 PM

Dishlickers = difficult gambling

You are not wrong there Superman!

There are just so many different ways to study the form.

Some guys just stick to the same track and spend hours studying the videos.

The Sheffield dogs are as bent as a 9 bob note and you can just follow the market.

It is certainly not my forte by any stretch. I think the odds for the most part are terrible value and you could go broke quickly if you had no clue.

Now on saying all that.. this trap challenge formula seems pretty consistent. I never knew I could get the stats online and so I will give it a proper workout over the next few weeks just to see how it performs.

The bot sounds good taking all those variables into account.

Who needs roulette 

We have football, dogs, forex etc....

(only joking)

Another thing to note is that it pays to shop around at different online bookmakers.

Corals prices for Trap 3 and Trap 4 are only 5/2 and 7/2 respectively.

You can sometimes get the best of both worlds if you are dutching and use different bookmakers. Every little bit extra helps!

I have found William Hill to generally offer the better prices when it comes to the trap challenge.

Corals got taken over recently and have become a right bunch of greedy **** 

Here are the ratings for today 14/2/13.

The afternoon trap challenge is at Romford and Crayford.

My ratings for the dogs are as follows....

Trap 1) 28 points (no bonus points) = 28 points.
Trap 2) 24 points (1 bonus point) = 25 points.
Trap 3) 33 points (4 bonus points) = 37 points.
Trap 4) 30 points (4 bonus points) = 34 points.
Trap 5) 30 points (4 bonus points) = 34 points.
Trap 6) 23 points (no bonus points) = 23 points.

Here is the betting show with William Hill.

Trap 1. 9/2
Trap 2. 11/2
Trap 3. 11/4
Trap 4. 9/2
Trap 5. 11/2
Trap 6. 7/2

I can't understand why Trap 6 is second favourite considering it has the lowest points tally of all the dogs. They normally throw a bad one in at the top end of the market.

The top rated 3 is the favourite today at 11/4 and I don't like taking less than 3/1 about this particular type of bet.

Trap 4 looks better at 9/2 and represents a bit of value. It has the same points tally as Trap 5 however I notice there are a lot more quick starters in the 4 box over the 5.

My advice today would be a 1 point win bet on Trap 4 to win the trap challenge with maybe a small saver bet on trap 3 just to recoup the stakes should that win.

cheers. 

Hello Sputnik

Here we go....


First of all, the main roulette system you get is NOT his own. The exact system is actually already documented in the 1983 book 'Roulette voor iedereen' from Paul Hasard (who also takes no credit for the system itself, so it has probably been out there even longer). So actually Ken Larsen is selling you a system which has already been developed and charging for it.

I'll therefore use the book 'Roulette voor iedereen' to explain the system (which is EXACTLY the same as Ken 'Vegasdude' Larsen).

1) Play the last number that showed up, then play the second last two numbers, and so on, up to 12 last numbers.

2) This is the progression you need

first 7 spins: 1 chip each on last 7 numbers
8 and 9 th spin: 2 chips on last 9 numbers
10 the spin: 3 chips on last 10 numbers
11 th spin: 4 chips on last 11 numbers
12 th spin: 5 chips on last 12 numbers

Now for the system itself:

- as you can see you need a large bankroll
- playing it is still no better than random bets
- if you lose playing this system (say your numbers didn't reappear in the last 12 spins), recovering will take a long time

CONCLUSION: the system doesn't work in the long run.........


cheers

Another thing to add....

There are times when there is only a point or two between the first and second best on ratings.

Let's say trap 3 has 36 points and trap 6 has 35 points.

Trap 3 may be 7/2 and trap 6 may be 6/1.

I often go for the larger price. You could back one and have a small saver on the other if you liked or just dutch the two of them.

It also seems to perform better in the winter months.

My mates theory is the quicker starting dogs have a decided edge over the slower dogs at some of the tracks with shorter distances. It takes some of them time to warm up and this inevitably leads to them finding trouble in running and the winner has already flown.

cheers. 

Here goes!

You first need a copy of the Racing Post.

I know they have an online version of it. I am not 100% sure if it is in the same format as what they put up on the walls in the bookmakers.

But anyway....

They nominate 2 greyhound meetings during the day as the 'Trap Challenge'.

The Racing Post form guide give 3 selections in each race for Tri-cast purposes.

So you need to give 3 points to each dog who they select to finish 1st.

2 points to each dog who they select to finish 2nd.

1 point to the dog who they select to finish 3rd.

Now they also have sectional times for the dogs and tell you what position the dog is in at each bend of the race.

All we are are interested in is the dogs position at the first bend. This is a crucial bit of information because you would be surprised how many dogs win who get the early lead and avoid any trouble in running which happens frequently.

Give any dog that you have gave points to an additional 1 point if it was 1st at the first bend in its last race.

Now you will normally find a clear selection on points after going through the card.

I have had times when a trap selection is 15-20 points clear of the next trap.

This to me is like a strong favourite in any particular race. But the great thing about it is that we are not going to get the same skinny price.

I had 2 last week that won at 4/1 and 9/2.

I will give an example sometime over the next few days of exactly how I arrive at my figures and show the betting forecast.

cheers.

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And at roulette everything is always different, no two sessions are the same.

It is true that the stream of numbers are always changing.

Therefore sticking with the same system will not produce consistent results.

We can all see this when graphs are posted up of spectacular highs and lows.

So it does not pay to walk into a casino with a preconcieved plan of action. We don't know what the 'weather' is going to be like yet and it could be one of those days where our plan is going to sink without trace.

Now that's not necessarily bad news because that means that there is going to be a consistency in the results. (The bad news will be if we continue to fight against whatever it is that is happening) I think human nature dictates that we like to be proven right. Unfortunately that can cost money in a gambling environment.

An open minded approach is required to be able to adapt to whatever is happening presently and to be prepared to change tack and go with the flow.

There is no worse feeling than walking out of a casino feeling like a stubborn old fool.

System players have lost for hundreds of years. Things are not about to change anytime soon.

cheers.

 
Any good concept needs to have consistency as one of the key principles behind it.

I was thinking today that the casino could paint whatever they wanted on the slots instead of the numbers. It would make no real difference really.

A good concept to investigate and study would be different kinds of averages which produce consistency and forget about guessing what the next number is going to be on the wheel.

The wheel and table layout are just eye candy. We all need to dig a bit deeper than that.


cheers.