Yet guys like John Patrick and the 'computer salesman' do just fine! 

Maybe the casino are not too worried about those two!


This is a true story what happened to a good friend of mine back in the 90's.

He was a professional shuffle tracker at the game of blackjack.

He went to greece thinking it would be some easy money and the casinos would not catch on to what he was doing.

So he won a large sum of money equivalent to about 20,000 euros.

He went out and had a meal and did not return to his hotel room immediately.

He was in for a surprise when he did get back. The room had been completely trashed and some of his papers went missing.

coincidence or not?

Maybe it was a good job he was not in the room at the time!


On the other side of the coin.......

I know several people who work within the industry. They all say that they are not concerned about anyone who wins money at roulette unless they are cheating.
They know it's a game of luck and that is true.

cheers.

I have cleaned up this thread a bit!

It's not about selling so-called holy grails.

Anybody with a holy grail could be out playing it or entrusting colleagues to play it for them and get slowly rich. They would not be on here talking about it.

Thank you!

Hello Sam

I ordered the book last night and will put up some of his progression twists once it arrives.

His book was recommended to me by several people. My goal for 2013 is to learn as much about MM as I can.

p.s. The fibonacci sequence is 1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21 34 55 89.

I think your example is using the D'alembert.

esoito

I just hope a few of you get some enjoyment from reading the book and that it maybe helps some of you with your betting. Roulette is my main focus and most of my energy goes in that direction at the moment. I don't really have time for anything else.

cheers 

Thanks esoito 

I will send away for a copy. (used of course)

It is basically the following......


Go up one step after each loss and down one step after a win and start over after back-to-back wins or 2-out-of-3 wins.

He wrote a book in 1995 titled 'Beat the casino'. This is one of the many ideas he shared.

cheers

p.s. It would be nice if somebody had a copy of that book. 

Quote from: Bally6354 on December 21, 2012, 10:55:51 AM

I have a book on an old hard drive which was going to be published some time ago about horseracing and how to read the markets. It was actually banned from publication. The major bookmakers in the UK took out an injunction because they did not want this information made available to the general public. It did go into great detail about the relationships between different factions in racing and spelled things out pretty clear. That PC crashed but I will take the hard drive out and see if I can retrieve the data. I will put that up here if the hard drive was not damaged and the file lost.

The guy was open this morning and did manage to save some of my old stuff! 

Here it is.....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/c6xyftzkim1j2r1/Isiris%20Unveiled.pdf

I will get it next week and write it up on here.

What I liked about it was that there was nearly always a selection which was a clear pick over the rest of the traps. This in an individual race would normally mean a skinny price however the prices for the trap challenge normally start around the 7/2 mark. I have had a few nice 5/1 and 11/2 winners with it!

Quote from: esoito on December 31, 2012, 11:40:32 PM
Just a thought:  I wonder if we're all working from a shared meaning of the word "consistent".

The whole poll hangs on that specific word, doesn't it?

That's true. So consistent has to mean you can overcome the 2.70% or 5.40% disadvantage. Otherwise you are not really winning!

[Edit:  I've added this to the first post so voters are sharing the same meaning of the word. ]

A friend of mine that lives down in London is a big dogs fan! He has regularly visited the London tracks for the last 40 years and is no mug!

He has a method which seems to win more often than not. We have something here in the U.K called 'The trap challenge'.

3 pts for a win.
2 pts for second place.
1 pt for third place.

The dog with the most points wins the challenge. You do sometimes get dead heats.

He has told me his selection criteria oodles of times and I keep forgetting it! 

I am going down to see him next week and I will write it down this time.

cheers

Bravo Ralph! 

Happy new year to everyone!

May 2013 bring you all you wish for! 

Great work Ralph!

Imagine a run like that in a casino with $5 chips!

Nearly 15k 

Norman Leigh and his team could have done just as well playing this way!

I voted yes and one of my reasons for doing so was because of the Pelayos family who attacked the wheels looking for bias.

I have to admit that I originally thought that the whole story could have just been a load of casino propaganda (I can be very cynical) However it appears that Pelayos took several casinos to court because they banned him from playing. So I am pretty sure the whole story is legit. I think they are still probably wheels out there today that could be taken advantage of if someone knew what they were looking for.

Of course it is possible that there are other methods out there as well which nobody has ever mentioned on the internet.

I got a surprise on a recent trip abroad to see the single 0 wheel have a 00 right next door to it on some of the wheels.

cheers

A new member called Squeezebox wrote a very insightful post on the following thread.

http://betselection.cc/newcomers-lounge/read-this-the-best-advice-you'll-ever-get-!!/msg5699/#new

Here is a quote...

''I know that there are bucket-loads of mathematicians out there who state categorically that mathematically-based systems cannot defeat the wheel - but, again, I am not one of them.  Maybe my view is based on the romantic notion that "there is more under the sky that has not been discovered ... yada yada etc." but I am convinced that it can be done.  Further, I believe that it HAS been done'' - sqzbox

So I am running this poll to see what the general concensus is like.

What interested me recently was a number of posters on several forums claiming that they had accounts closed from some of the Live Dealer internet casinos. (They were still allowed to play the RNG version!)

All views are welcome as long as they remain on topic.

cheers 

NB: The word Consistent for this poll means: You can overcome the 2.70% or 5.40% disadvantage.