ok... well I tested the same bet today in fun mode and had no problem with it!

Strange! Maybe it was just a glitch on that particular game I played.

I will edit my first post in this thread.

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A quick run.....

3 1C
13 2A  (3B).......so now the 3 and B are equal furthest back.........
11 1B  (3).........the B appeared here now leaving the 3 on it's own.........
30 3C  (2A).....the 3 appeared and now 2 and A are equal furthest back........
11 1B  (2A).......2A is still the equal furthest back................
24 2C  (A).....the 2 appeared here now leaving the A on it's own........
34 3A  (1B)......the A appeared and now 1 and B are the equal furthest back......
3 1C  (B).......the 1 appeared here now leaving B on it's own......
31 3A  (B).....the B is still the furthest back..........

Now if I add the O (opposite) and S (same) to the mix.

3 1C
13 2A  (3B).......so now the 3 and B are equal furthest back.........
11 1B  (3)  O.........the B appeared here now leaving the 3 on it's own.........
30 3C  (2A)  O.....the 3 appeared and now 2 and A are equal furthest back........
11 1B  (2A)  S.......2A is still the equal furthest back................
24 2C  (A)  O.....the 2 appeared here now leaving the A on it's own........
34 3A  (1B)  O......the A appeared and now 1 and B are the equal furthest back......
3 1C  (B)  O.......the 1 appeared here now leaving B on it's own......
31 3A  (B)  S.....the B is still the furthest back..........

You can see the run of three O's and then it went to S.

You would just back for the B to remain absent leaving you to bet columns A + C.

That worked out nicely! I just downloaded them from random.org 

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Sam

33 3C (1) S............the C is the furthest back here...........
14 2B (1) S
4 1A (3C) O
20 2B (3C) S
22 2A (3C) S
26 3B (C) O............the 3 appeared here. So I take the 3 out from 3C leaving C........


The 1 is not the furthest back if you look at the number 4.

33 3C (1) S
14 2B (1) S
4 1A (3C) O ..........the 1 appeared here.............
20 2B (3C) S
22 2A (3C) S
26 3B (C) O

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Hello Sam

I can't really answer your questions. I suppose Bayes, Superman or Ralph would have a better technical knowledge of the randomness control feature and could give a good explanation.

I just play there to test my ideas and get comfortable playing them because I can take as long as I want. It is as close to a real casino experience I can get apart from dublinbet I suppose.

It kind of reminds me of that old story where the father says to his son about betting against a playing card squirting water in his eye (or something along those lines, lol)

Nothing would surprise me!

You would think however that it would be impossible for them to let you win like some of the other casinos do in play mode IF this randomness control feature is genuine. It should play out just the same in play mode or for real. Systems win and systems lose. I can still picture in my mind some of the charts that members used to post up on Gamblers Glen where a system had a line going up to the sky only to come crashing back down again and then plummet to the bottom of the ocean. (I always wonder why guys just don't reverse the bet in this case or is that too simple an answer)

I am bloviating Sam! no idea mate. You can't beat a real wheel!

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No worries Sam.

I got the first three spins for free and then it took it on the fourth spin.

Merry xmas Betvoyager 

It appeared that I had could not play some of the different types of mutually exclusive bets to generate a number.

This now appears as though it was some kind of glitch because I have had no problems since that particular game.

Please ignore the 'alert' warning!

cheers.

I will swap 5 holy grails for one of your daughters Superman! 

This is an interesting topic because you can genuinely have an edge on your competitors depending on the skill and experience you have.

I know several people from the Betfair forum who are 'experts' in their chosen field.

The thing is however they are not just betting before the match/event.

They 'trade' throughout the match. This offers them a lot more scope because they can keep evaluating the situation.

It's a little bit like 'situational play' in roulette. Someone might decide to go to the casino and bet on number 5 all day long. However we all know it's possible that number 5 may not appear for hundreds of spins. The situational player might see number 8 getting hot and decide to switch over.

So you can see that a trader needs to put in the hours because he is constantly monitoring whatever event he is involved in. I believe this is the best way to go with sports betting.

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Merry christmas to everyone on here and I hope 2013 brings you all that you wish for!

That's funny Gizmo because he (Saliu) had the cheek to say others ripped off his work later down the line.

Thanks for the link. 

Albalaha was talking about Ion Saliu on another thread and it got me thinking about shills who deliberately put out false/misleading information on the internet to muddy the waters.

They come in all different guises and I can't ever remember reading a thread on the subject. I suppose we have to be careful what we say but there is nothing to stop us posting our general thoughts without naming names.


Regarding Ion. He is certainly an interesting character! 

One thing I notice is that he is attacked from a lot of different quarters within the gambling community. Now this could be a good thing meaning he is on the right track and people who think they might have something to lose will bash him.

I was watching a short video the other day of one guy in a vegas casino showing how to play all the games. No doubt this guys books are in all the casino book stores as well.

Now one of the questions you have to ask yourself is would the casinos let Stanford Wong shoot a video in their casino explaining the subtleties of shuffle tracking? NOT ON YOUR LIFE!

It would be like me letting the guy who broke into my house give demonstrations in my living room to wannabe crooks how he did it! 

So what should newbies be looking out for and what are the tell tale signs that give the game away?

I was just playing around with your software Gizmo loading some numbers from some of my files. The even chances added to the dozens and columns can give some nice wins for a low outlay. I had a situation where the 1A RED +EVEN were missing. That just leaves 15, 17, 29, 33, 35. A nice win streak ensued. What I particularly like about this is the opportunity to use some kind of positive progression. You can afford to go up a level after every winning bet and still retain a lot of the profit.

Look at your example AMK

XX,XX,XX
XX,XX,XX
XX,XX,XX
XX,XX,XX
-- -- --
XX,14,15
XX,17,18
XX,20,21
XX,23,24
-- -- --
XX,26,27
XX,29,30
XX,32,33
XX,35,36

You had 1A, 1A. (assuming these are missing)

So I have crossed them out. That leaves 16 numbers you can cover with 8 splits.

Now let's look at it again and also assume RED is cold.

XX,XX,XX
XX,XX,XX
XX,XX,XX
XX,XX,XX
-- -- --
XX,XX,15
XX,17,XX
XX,20,XX
XX,XX,24
-- -- --
XX,26,XX
XX,29,XX
XX,XX,33
XX,35,XX

You now have 8 numbers left. 15, 17, 20, 24, 26, 29, 33, 35.

Of course this is just one example and the possibilities are endless of the type of bets you could look for.

This IMO is one of the areas where we should be looking to win at the game of roulette.

Gizmo

I never really looked at it with the B/R, E/O, H/L angle before.

That opens up more than a few possibilities. Thanks.

Hello AMK.

These are from my files. I just pasted this batch.

I am a big fan of this sort of play.

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