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#692
Horse & Greyhound Racing Forum / Re: @ Bayes and Esoito
December 21, 2012, 02:51:50 PM
Bubbly Bailey finished 9th.
This one never drifted in the market and hovered around the 5/1 mark for most of the day. I don't think it was wanted today as it was beaten after about 3 furlongs never getting in a blow!
This one never drifted in the market and hovered around the 5/1 mark for most of the day. I don't think it was wanted today as it was beaten after about 3 furlongs never getting in a blow!
#693
Horse & Greyhound Racing Forum / Re: @ Bayes and Esoito
December 21, 2012, 10:55:51 AM
I thought this was an interesting thread to start because it is not really just a system as such.
The markets have always been manipulated by the big players for their own ends.
Now why go to the trouble of studying form when you can let the 'experts' do it for you.
All you then need to do is learn to read the signals.
I joined a racing forum a few years ago because they had a casino section. They wanted to burn me at the stake after I tried to explain a few of my ideas
They told me roulette was a negative expectation game!
That I could never win at the game!
So I went over to read what they had to offer! It was the biggest load of curve fitted nonsense that I had ever seen. I got banned after telling them that.
I have a book on an old hard drive which was going to be published some time ago about horseracing and how to read the markets. It was actually banned from publication. The major bookmakers in the UK took out an injunction because they did not want this information made available to the general public. It did go into great detail about the relationships between different factions in racing and spelled things out pretty clear. That PC crashed but I will take the hard drive out and see if I can retrieve the data. I will put that up here if the hard drive was not damaged and the file lost.
All gambling is not really as it appears. At least that's the way I look at it now.
Casinos and bookmakers are offering you a losing proposition if you follow the herd.
It really is a case of developing your own style and playing a different kind of game to everyone else if you want to come out on top.
cheers
The markets have always been manipulated by the big players for their own ends.
Now why go to the trouble of studying form when you can let the 'experts' do it for you.
All you then need to do is learn to read the signals.
I joined a racing forum a few years ago because they had a casino section. They wanted to burn me at the stake after I tried to explain a few of my ideas
They told me roulette was a negative expectation game!
That I could never win at the game!
So I went over to read what they had to offer! It was the biggest load of curve fitted nonsense that I had ever seen. I got banned after telling them that.
I have a book on an old hard drive which was going to be published some time ago about horseracing and how to read the markets. It was actually banned from publication. The major bookmakers in the UK took out an injunction because they did not want this information made available to the general public. It did go into great detail about the relationships between different factions in racing and spelled things out pretty clear. That PC crashed but I will take the hard drive out and see if I can retrieve the data. I will put that up here if the hard drive was not damaged and the file lost.
All gambling is not really as it appears. At least that's the way I look at it now.
Casinos and bookmakers are offering you a losing proposition if you follow the herd.
It really is a case of developing your own style and playing a different kind of game to everyone else if you want to come out on top.
cheers
#694
Horse & Greyhound Racing Forum / Re: @ Bayes and Esoito
December 21, 2012, 10:03:33 AM
The lay today is 'Bubbly Bailey' in the 13.35 at Lingfield.
#695
General Discussion / Re: Intrigued by the idea of communal testing
December 20, 2012, 06:22:44 PM
That's a good idea Wannawin
I was thinking something similar the other day. I had in mind something like 'system of the week' where it could be explained and then tested. It could then be given a rating by the testers. That would then build up a nice library of systems which had some research behind them. I suppose it would be easy enough to setup. Let the members who want to participate put their name down and then randomly pick one members name out of the hat each week. We can all learn something from each others ideas.
I was thinking something similar the other day. I had in mind something like 'system of the week' where it could be explained and then tested. It could then be given a rating by the testers. That would then build up a nice library of systems which had some research behind them. I suppose it would be easy enough to setup. Let the members who want to participate put their name down and then randomly pick one members name out of the hat each week. We can all learn something from each others ideas.
#696
General Discussion / Re: Anyone know if the end of the world is GMT?
December 20, 2012, 05:47:36 PM
I hope you are right AMK
#697
General Discussion / Anyone know if the end of the world is GMT?
December 20, 2012, 05:23:31 PM
It's well into the 21st down under and they are still all there!
#698
Horse & Greyhound Racing Forum / Re: @ Bayes and Esoito
December 20, 2012, 02:05:41 PM
I think it's fair to say that was a definate non-trier.
Drifted from 13/2 out to 10/1 a few minutes before the race and it finished nowhere.
Laddies knew about that one.
Drifted from 13/2 out to 10/1 a few minutes before the race and it finished nowhere.
Laddies knew about that one.
#699
General Discussion / Re: Bet progressions vs Bet placements
December 20, 2012, 01:02:10 PM
Hello guys
I have added Stetson's book to my dropbox account just in case any of you are wondering what the fuss is about.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zmwixa1giyo9rsm/Stetson%20Bailey.pdf?m
Ignore the Craps title. This can be applied to most things!
I have added Stetson's book to my dropbox account just in case any of you are wondering what the fuss is about.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zmwixa1giyo9rsm/Stetson%20Bailey.pdf?m
Ignore the Craps title. This can be applied to most things!
#700
Horse & Greyhound Racing Forum / Re: @ Bayes and Esoito
December 20, 2012, 11:39:44 AM
It would appear that Ertikaan is not going to be very busy in the 14.00 at Lingfield this afternoon. I will be laying it to win a few pounds.
#701
General Discussion / Re: Bet progressions vs Bet placements
December 19, 2012, 11:42:58 PM
One of my favourite gambling authors Stetson Bailey says you have to accept the fact that you are going to have more losing bets than winning bets. He then goes on to say that you will need to find a way to have more money on the winning bets to make up for the higher percentage of losing bets. So you would have to use some kind of progressive betting if old Stetson is correct.
One thing I have learned through experience is that there is never really a right or wrong way. (Or maybe a better way of putting that is that it does not pay to have too much of an extreme view one way or the other when it comes to gambling. ie.. bet selection vs progressions) The truth normally is somewhere in the middle. It would be beneficial to understand the benefits of both bet selection and good MM. They can both be used to good effect.
Welcome to the forum HoneyBooBoo.
One thing I have learned through experience is that there is never really a right or wrong way. (Or maybe a better way of putting that is that it does not pay to have too much of an extreme view one way or the other when it comes to gambling. ie.. bet selection vs progressions) The truth normally is somewhere in the middle. It would be beneficial to understand the benefits of both bet selection and good MM. They can both be used to good effect.
Welcome to the forum HoneyBooBoo.
#702
Horse & Greyhound Racing Forum / @ Bayes and Esoito
December 19, 2012, 04:46:14 PM
This is a very interesting thread regarding Ladbrokes and Bet365 trying to discourage the arbers. It is proving profitable to follow.
http://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29510953/365-and-laddies-stoop-to-new-caped-crusader-low?pg=1
http://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29510953/365-and-laddies-stoop-to-new-caped-crusader-low?pg=1
#703
General Discussion / Re: 10
December 18, 2012, 08:45:28 PM
I will put you all out of your misery!
Number 10 is the only number on the single zero roulette wheel which has a number of both lower value and higher value on either side!
Oh well! Looks like I get to keep the prize!
Number 10 is the only number on the single zero roulette wheel which has a number of both lower value and higher value on either side!
Oh well! Looks like I get to keep the prize!
#704
General Discussion / Re: 10
December 18, 2012, 05:39:26 PM
Good answers guys
But not correct! (although you could argue they are both correct)
That was funny soggett
Sorry soggett! I should have said it's a wheel layout puzzle. Does that give the game away?
But not correct! (although you could argue they are both correct)
That was funny soggett
Sorry soggett! I should have said it's a wheel layout puzzle. Does that give the game away?
#705
General Discussion / 10
December 18, 2012, 03:48:29 PM
Why is the number 10 on a single zero roulette wheel different to all the other numbers?
The first person with the correct answer wins a prize!
The first person with the correct answer wins a prize!