Quote from: JohnLegend on November 28, 2012, 01:14:44 PM
I've been thinking why does a company like BV let you bet pennies when another company BET365 has a minumum bet of £5 on their RNG for the outside bets.

The devils advocate in me says that you could win 6/10 even money bets playing pennies and the guy betting £5 wins 4/10. That makes it a 50/50 game.

The casino get rich and the players betting pennies think they are going to get rich and start betting £5.....you know the rest. 

Of course I could be completely wrong and hope I am.

Quote from: Ophis on November 28, 2012, 07:15:32 AM
When i was making S9 bot (this unlucky which u had so many problems with, because it was compressed by default to enchance security, and this made your antywir crazy because he didint knew what he was dealing with) this was discussed with FlukeyLuke as to authorize only people which have donated.
End result was that this bot just like a system become free for all.

I agree with you Ophis and I would not make that mistake again. Besides it doesn't cost much if a few people who are interested chip in.

10. keep changing strategies.

I think it's a good idea to stick with something and refine it as you go along.

Starting from scratch every other week with something new is not the way to go.

Imagine if you could add a couple of % improvement every so often through new knowledge and experience. This would gradually take you through the ranks as a player.

Quote from: Bayes on November 27, 2012, 09:18:58 AM
Gimme a break! At this rate, it will soon be "normal" to be mentally ill. Call me a cynic, but it seems that if you can't do maths, you're suffering from a disorder and need help from mental health professional (who charges $120 per hour).

LoL, I don't disagree with you Bayes. A lot of the guys I mentioned above completely changed their stance at one point or another to suit the flavour of the day (in other words....keep the research funds coming)

I think number 4 is a biggie!

A lot of players think they can take the casino home with them every night.

People who make money out of gambling have a more long term approach.

There was a professional gambler in the U.K by the name of Phil Bull in the 60's.

He worked on the fact that he could make 5% profit each year on his turnover.

He would need to wager 1 million in a year just to make 50k. (In today's money)


Think more longer term and try and set some kind of sensible targets or have a few goals you would like to achieve through your gambling. This can provide a bit of discipline which is needed.

You are right Sam! It needs to be played with a few other ideas.

I just checked on table 4 today at Wiesbaden and there were not many bets for it. It did finish up +8. However that is after 296 spins.

That's a good question esoito

1) Flat bets. (RWD hot number system)

2) Gentle progression. (Lanky's divisor)

3) Inside numbers. (Winkel's G.U.T)

4) Even Chance. (SPIKE's 72% method    )

I was serious for about 75% of that post. Honestly, I have never found an E.C. method I like. Some people go on about 'Marigny'. I don't know because I have never really studied it.

cheers

p.s. Lanky's divisor does not really get talked about much anymore but some clever people back in the day like 'number 6' praised it's worth compared to some of the other boom + bust progressions. I would put a link to it but you just get taken to spam adverts nowadays.

I was thinking about our struggles to beat roulette and wondered what other people would make of our almost obsessive fascination with the game....

....Then I watched this and it's kind of ironic.

These 2 guys live in the middle of nowhere (uttoxeter) and are managing a health centre and yet you would think they are in charge of the bank of england.

It's hillarious.

http://youtu.be/Y7o8FbGCR9U

100 spins from random.org.....

13
30
32
23
10
31
9
18 bet next spin streets 3,9.
6 lost -2.
2
33
7
8
33
8
5
34
33
15
4
6
10
26
16 bet next spin streets 3,9.
13 lost -2.
3
28
1
26
32
26
24
33
17
32
12
14
32
27
30
2
17
21
25
3
1
8
6
1
9
23
28
7
14
30
7
30
12
3
31
7
21
35
11
32
21
23
5
10
29
3
4
25
9 bet next spin streets 6,9.
7 lost -2. no bet next spin.
17 bet next spin streets 3,9.
12 lost -2.
8
20
32
26
18 bet next spin streets 3,9.
2 lost -2.
11
28
31
26
33
10
11
21
23
33
13
2
21
29
8
28
21
This example would have lost 8 units. LLLL.



Another 100....

1
23
31
16
34
6
5
2
22
18
17 no bet here.
2
33
28
31
23
20
22
26
3
22
2
2
29
24
4
26
2
5
1
22
14
18
25 next spin bet streets 3,6.
27 lost -2.
21
30
32
33
30
16
14
3
8
18 next spin bet streets 3,9.
22 lost -2.
7
3
30
34
7
17
24 next spin bet streets 3,9.
23 lost -2.
23
16
18 no bet here.
7 next spin bet streets 6,9.
19 lost -2.
2
5
27
25 no bet here.
19
16
17 no bet here.
32
14
10
29
22
20
10
28
16
22
23
2
5
10
20
11
31
30
17
6
26
27 no bet here.
12
28
27
30
6
4
13
10
20
7
31
22
This example would have lost 8 units. LLLL.


Another 100...

36
22
8
26 bet streets 3,6.
30 lost -2.
8
21
6
30
17
7 bet streets 6,9.
22 lost -2.
20
22
9
29
21
3
25
36
19
32
2
21
11
15
5
11
13
20
16
24
7
12
16
16 no bet here.
6
12
3
34
17
27 bet streets 3,6.
9 win +10. bet streets 6,9.
5 lost -2.
18
34
24
6
20
7
33
13
28
15
21
13
5
6
19
16
7 bet streets 6,9.
1 lost -2.
10
3
6
32
22
5
31
28
25
20
17
24
2
31
33
29
29
3
14
24
17
16 no bet here.
33
36
24
20
25
27 no bet here.
17 bet streets 3,9.
9 win +10. bet streets 6,9.
1 lost -2.
26
25 no bet here.
28
8
27 bet streets 3,6.
16 win +10. bet streets 3,9.
29 lost -2.
This example shown +18. LL W LL W L W L. (This is the sort of pattern worth following.)

Hello Subby
It can all be boiled down to the following...
If you see streets 3,6 appear consecutively... bet streets 3,9.
If you see streets 3,9 appear consecutively... bet streets 3,6.
If you see streets 6,3 appear consecutively... bet streets 6,9.
If you see streets 6,9 appear consecutively... bet streets 3,6.
If you see streets 9,3 appear consecutively... bet streets 6,9.
If you see streets 9,6 appear consecutively... bet streets 3,9.
Don't bet if you see the following..
3,3.
6,6.
9,9.
Wait for two of the 3,6 or 9 streets to alternate consecutively.
Always continue after a win following the rules as above.
Stop at as loss and wait for the bet to qualify again.
A losing bet only costs 2 units.
A winning bet returns 10 units profit with the possibility of going on a win streak.
Hope this makes sense.
cheers

Quote from: malcop on November 26, 2012, 02:39:08 PM
Are they cheating I don't know, but answer this why is it when you are blocked on playing live dealers on sites such as William Hill, they recommend you play on their RNG platforms.


They obviously think you have no long-term chance of coming out ahead playing RNG


malcop

The good thing there is that they are virtually admitting that live roulette can be beat. This news is coming from the casino and not some system scammer. That is 100% great news.

My opinion is that RNG is somehow capable of producing longer periods of randomness which is hard for a player to get to grips with. I do believe in the 'cause and effect' principle that applies to live roulette and maybe an experienced player can tune into that.

Maybe it's not so easy to tune into a bunch of RNG gobleygook 

That's my theory for now anyhow.

Quote from: dino246 on November 26, 2012, 07:22:30 AM
Interesting to note the name of those machines in the bookies.....FIXED betting terminals !!

Please ALL stay away from them if your new to this great game of roulette.

Fbt's are not roulette their Mickey Mouse.

I agree with you Dino that it's not really roulette but I don't think the machines are fixed to pay out less than the stated odds.

It is more a case of players getting sucked into them. You can't sit out spins and you can turn over your money far quicker than playing on a real wheel in a live casino.

Add that up along with insufficient capital, chasing losses etc.. and you really do have a recipe for disaster.

hello marivo

There are some days that you would not even get any bets with this playing it as a 'stand-alone' method. It is a nice trigger to have in your arsenal. Some days it is strong and other days it is weak. All I can suggest is to play it when you are not getting many losses with it in any particular session.

For example...

W LL W L W LL WW L (You can make good profit in these times) The L's are not going over 2.

LLLL W LLLLL (There is no point playing it in times like this)

So once again it is pretty subjective but most of the triggers I play are like that. At least this one is easy to track and follow.

cheers

I read a lot of the German roulette forums and a few of them were complaining about it.
So I am assuming that some of them probably play at Wiesbaden.

Quote from: TwoCatSam on November 25, 2012, 07:16:14 PM
Bally

Are you speaking specifically of the Wiesbaden wheel or all wheels in general?  I can't see how one could know this unless they were at the table.  Can you be at the table at Weisbaden?

Sam

Sam

You could be sitting there at the table playing. It's a real live casino. I am pretty certain they don't have a video feed like at Dublinbet.

All the wheels with sensors on them for recording numbers can either miss out on numbers or add the same number twice making it look like a repeater came.

I suppose Victor is right in a way saying it makes no difference because each spin is an independent event.

cheers