I am running some tests on Oscar's Grind.

It's a pretty simple MM scheme which I believe is around 50 years old. All you do is start off at 1 unit. If you lose, you continue at 1 unit. On a win, you raise the bet by 1 unit and continue raising 1 unit on a win until you reach a 1 unit profit. You reset to a new game once you reached a 1 unit profit for that particular game. For an example, if you get to the stage where your bet is 4 units and you win and you then only need 2 units to go into a 1 unit profit, reduce the next bet from 5 to 2. Simple really.

Anyway, I don't want to test it for a million spins to see it fail. Instead, I want to see how often it can reach +50 without going to -20 just using a random bet selection. (black in this case)

Test 1.

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Hello Nick!

Yes, that's perfect. Thanks very much for your help.

Is anyone aware if there is a piece of software out there which calculates the divisor and staking for you if you put in the W/L registry.

Thanks 

Well done Atlantis 

I like this idea because it's based on common sense as the following table shows.

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Some of them must have. I  was playing roulette at a table around 18 months ago and had this real arrogant dealer saying systems don't win (referring to me sitting there with my pen and paper, lol) Anyway, he kept on and on and it really got annoying. I phoned up the manager the next day and told him that  I thought this particular dealer was very unprofessional. So to his credit, he says 'hold on, I will play back the audio and check it out' He comes back and tells me he agrees with me and will have a word with the guy.

Maybe they play them back checking for late call bets because I suppose that could be open to a bit of collusion. The cameras and what not are not just there for us guys.

Here is the way I would tackle it. There may be better ways, but I have not spent loads of time on it.

The green lines under a number come in clusters. I noticed that when these clusters do come, they usually keep hitting within 5 spins of each other.  So what I would do is try and match the numbers that could hit for a repeat in the current 13 spins with all the numbers that have had previously had a green line drawn under them.

So looking at the very last column in picture 2. The first green line is under number 23. There is a double 10 and a double 23 in the last 11 spins. So now I look at the last 12 spins and see what potential repeats can hit with numbers that have already a green line underneath them.

The last 12 numbers out are as follows......

19
10
28
23
10
0
31
2
20
30
7
23

There are a few repeat numbers in there, so I can narrow it down to......

19
10
28
23
0
31
2
20
30
7

10 numbers in total. Now if I look back and try and match these numbers with numbers that already have green lines underneath them, I come up with the following numbers to bet.

19
23
0
30
7

Only 5 numbers there to bet and the next number was 7. It's a win. If I went 5 spins without having a win, I would stop betting because I would think that I might be in store for a dry run. If they keep hitting within 5, I would keep recalculating the possible bets.

I like it because it restricts the bets to just a few numbers and it takes advantage of the hot numbers.  There was another win three spins later with the 30. These clusters of hits are where the profit is going to reside and losing 5 spins on the bounce isn't going to kill the bankroll. It may sometimes require a gentle progression if it's treading water, not sure, I will need to look more into it.

cheers

One more picture.

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Let's see what happens if I write down the numbers in order as they appear with the green line under them and how many times they hit.

Starting from the first picture.

1. 25 =1
2. 24 =1
3. 24 =2
4. 24 =3
5. 19 =1
6. 19 =2
7. 24 =4
8. 1 =1
9. 19 =3
10. 19 =4
11. 34 =1
12. 34 =2
13. 34 =3
14. 4 =1
15. 25 =2
16. 26 =1
17. 34 =4
18. 25 =3
19. 32 =1
20. 35 =1
21. 5 =1
22. 5 =2
23. 1 =2
24. 10 =1
25. 10 =2
26. 27 =1
27. 10 =3
28. 5 =3
29. 16 =1
30. 26 =2
31. 16 =2

Only 13 different numbers within those 31 recorded.

On to the second picture.

1. 27 =1
2. 27 =2
3. 16 =1
4. 23 =1
5. 27 =3
6. 7 =1
7. 0 =1
8. 3 =1
9. 19 =1
10. 16 =2
11. 8 =1
12. 26 =1
13. 17 =1
14. 26 =2
15. 30 =1
16. 22 =1
17. 13 =1
18. 17 =2
19. 26 =3
20. 17 =3
21. 6 =1
22. 8 =2
23. 16 =3
24. 16 =4
25. 1 =1
26. 21 =1
27. 1 =2
28. 24 =1
29. 16 =5
30. 23 =2
31. 23 =3
32. 7 =2
33. 30 =2

Only 17 different numbers within those 33 recorded.

In game 1, there was a triple on numbers 2,3,4.
A double on numbers 5,6.
A double on numbers 9,10.
A triple on numbers 11,12,13.
A double on numbers 21,22.
A double on numbers 24,25.

How might someone handle that??

More to follow.......

Hello guys.

To be honest, I don't play much roulette anymore. Baccarat is now my preferred game. On saying that, I still like to mess around with roulette from time to time. Once it's in your  blood, it's hard to escape from the wheel. 

My last intensive study of roulette concentrated pretty much around distribution and the LOTT (law of the third) It's one of those concepts where you can just endlessly chase your tail without getting anywhere (maybe because it doesn't work very well, lol) Anyway, I did come up with something a little bit different which maybe deserves further exploration.

A lot of people researching the LOTT tend to think in terms of cycles and waiting for numbers to specifically hit 2 or 3 times + before betting them. There are times however that you won't see a number appear 3 times in a cycle (37 spins) It doesn't happen often, but it does happen. One thing can all guarantee on however is that a number will hit twice in a cycle. The odds must be hundreds of million to one to see all 37 different numbers appear one after the other.

So my focus revolved around what can be done with the second hit. One thing that I already knew was that the first repeat comes on average between spins 7-8. So I wanted to find out when the average was for the second hit to repeat and it turns out to be 13 spins.

So you might get something like this.....

1. 7
2. 23
3. 9
4. 18
5. 29
6. 11
7. 30
8. 28
9. 7 (first repeat)
10. 36
11. 2
12. 3
13. 36 (second repeat)

Of course they averages. Things tend to ebb and flow a lot in roulette which brings me to the following picture.

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I have put a green line under a number whenever a second repeat occurs within 13 spins. The first underlined number is 25 and it was the second repeat after the 9 hit twice first. Both these two numbers hit twice within the space of 9 spins.

Looking at the purple rings, you can see that we sometimes get a nice concentration of hits where 2 numbers are repeating within very close range of each other frequently. And naturally there are other times where you don't get this happening for periods of 10-20 spins.

I will delve more into this on my next post and show what I think is a pretty neat solution for attacking this. One of the problems with many LOTT strategies is that either 1) You end up betting too many numbers. 2) Hot numbers go cold and cold numbers wake up. The ideal would be to just bet a few numbers every so often for a few spins. (There is a clue in there somewhere)

cheers

Here is a live baccarat game from Sky Vegas that I recorded. It all seems fine, however  I noticed at the end of the shoe that a lady came and took the old cards away and brought the new shoe in with her. So the cards are already shuffled. I preferred the old dublinbet style where they shuffled the cards in front of the players from the live casino. I only noticed the other day that they don't stream anymore from the casino in Ireland.

This one at Sky has a minimum bet of £1 for anyone interested. They don't accept US or French players.

https://youtu.be/nklMgX3SD-8

This was always my favourite forum and Vic and all the mods (or ex-mods for that matter) do/did a great job.

Count me in for $20.

cheers

Quote from: Gizmotron on September 08, 2016, 01:27:34 AM
Interesting choices. There is no way I'm planning an Ed Thorp. Perhaps the best choice is to go on a road trip. I could connect a bunch of casinos all along the interstate and the coast.

Excellent idea!!

If you have found a winning strategy, what could be better than seeing the world, enjoying new experiences, new people, great food. You now have the freedom that a lot of people are unable to create for themself. Enjoy it. Think of all the hours you have put into studying the game. Don't you deserve some personal enjoyment as a kind of payback.

Do it this way and be successful and somewhere down the line you will be able to share it with whoever you want for no cost and that should make you feel a whole lot better than giving it away now for some arbitrary sum. A third or half of your life's work is not worth 20k or whatever. You should be thinking on a higher plane than that. (all just for the sake of argument, of course)

Another game....

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In column 1, you were looking for a 123 AP on the (1)

In column 2, you had a 123 AP win on the (2) but it wasn't a repeat. The next 123 AP in column 2 was a winner on the (1) with the repeat number 2.

In column 3, you were looking for a 135 AP on the (1)

This game turned out a 26 unit winner.

So this is how I envisage it just now....

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You would have only played the 27 and 30 here from Column C.

Here is a nice little twist on the idea.

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Take the first 6 numbers from Column A and I will call it (1)...Take the second 6 numbers from Column A and I will call it (2)

Now you can see how a successful AP was formed on the 8th number to appear from Column A. My initial thoughts are just to play the numbers that have already shown. So if you were playing for the (1)...it would actually have resulted in a loss here because I would have only played the numbers 7 and 10.

Something for me to work on well Vic is completing my LOTT module.

Thanks Nickmsi....I think a lot of people will be drawn to the VDW AP idea which yourself and Priyanka have generously shared. It's trying to find the right way to use it which is half the fun.

Stringbeanpc....The name of the book is 'The Future Gambler' by Craig Greiner. It's a pity the guy still isn't around, I have given it more plugs than a paid employee.