Hello
question
I agree "your module" is winning
,but
How many wins it makes?
example
in 10,000 spins
how many Bets?
how many Wins?
how many Loss?
and these results are by using positive betting or pure bet selection?

Hello
From reading through the pages I conclude that ...
Albalaha dislikes Negative progression ....
and all of them are wrong....
so if you change direction....
We will get...
a Long Run Positive Progression ...
Maybe if someone can make ...
this kind of animal....

I agree to disagree with you ...
1000 spin not equal to 100 SPINS  x10 sessions is not equal to 50 SPINS x20  sessions

http://betselection.cc/general-discussion/how-true-1072r1077-my-results/msg39643/#msg39643

The system that always wins but little ...

http://forum.roulette30.com/index.php?topic=260.msg1949#msg1949

Quote
After reading the discussion on Johnson progression and Belgian, it was created a similar system.

The system starts from the following assumptions:
-the selection of the spin does NOT exist (but if the players think they have one, so much better and win more easily)
-it comes to exploiting a financial strategy that, necessarily, must be very sophisticated or even very complicated;
-in 100 spins on the EC, it is impossible for a player NOT win at least 22 spins;
-the yield is 4%(not very high) of strokes played.

So in a pattern of registration there will be about 100 spins, losers spins (78) CP, surely winning spins (22) CV and the winning goal (4) OV.
CP, CV and OV are linked together by a formula that indicates the bet after each spin.
So, you can imagine, every attack closes at the 22nd win into 100 spins. It could be at the 100° spin (bad luck!) Or after 22 spins if we win them all in a row (Lucky!).

BET = losers spins (CP) 78 + Objective of winning (OV) 20 (ie 4 pieces of 5 €), all divided by the winning spins (CV) 22.
The first bet will be of 5 euro (approximately in excess).
If you win the next BET is 78 + 15 (3 pieces from 5 euro), all divided by 21.
If you lose instead the BET is 77 + 25 (4 pieces of OV, plus 5 euro lost), all divided by 22 and so on.

Three suggestions for simplify things:
- Play in the differential mode, if possible;
- Do not play the system "continuously". Therefore, at each winning a piece, then starts again. The yield is still 4% of strokes played, and the games will be less time duration;
- Winning goal (OV), the formula must be ZERO! Yes, Zero, AWESOME! Why?
Explanation: it is clear that in 100 spins, the system closes as soon as you have reached the 22nd winning.
If the 22nd winning happens at the 100th spin, we will be in equal position after maybe we lost 4 hours at the table for anything, but it does not practically happen.
If the 22nd win happens to the 50th or 60th spin (very often!) or even earlier, however, we will have a win that will always be equal, ON AVERAGE, the difference between winning spins and lost spins.

I open a parenthesis, that will be useful later when you try to build your own system.
If instead of playing on simple chances,EC , you want apply such formula on dozens:
BET: CP + OG, all divided for CV and then multiplied for 2(the dozen pays 2 pieces), 11 would be multiplied if we play on triplets, 35 multiplied if we play on plein number, etc.

It is important to set the correct parameters of winning and losing spins.
In the case of Belgian system, it would used as parameters that in 200 spins i expect to win 65 spins(because i know that at least black or red will reach that level) and 135 lost spins.
CP=135    OG=0 or what you prefer   CV=65
First bet is: 135/65 = 2 euro

I hope i gave you some good idea.

[end quote]

Hello.
I may have missed the post...
Can anybody tell me what happened in The End
Blue_Angel did make all 10k SPINS
And what is the
outcome?

I Love the new TABs. Good Work.

Hello
I 've done the test with this method of betting cyclical martingales
... win win ... and then lose a lot
... could be wrong
.... formula can be mistaken
I'm not very good with excel

my STOP LOSS was 600u

numbers are from file
10K RNG spins, single zero, generated by Random.org
www.roulette30.com

p.s. I had such high hopes that this will be a profitable method

some pic

Hello
recently tested bets
by random org
the first version I tested
Series 35 x 300 spins
in the second variant tested
10,000 spins
and there is quite a difference in results

my question is
how to test ...?
and the spin to Looks like test numbers are from RNG Cassino
test 1
series 35 X300 Spins
bets around  1700
profit 260u

test2
10,000 spins
bets around 1700
profit 104u

what do you think ?
how true  аrе my results ?


p.s
excited for the first time achieve such wins

:-)
Guys, I do not know if this is the answer to my question , but thank you all...
if somebody has other ideas. please  post them ....
:-)

Thank you for your interest Vic

This's what  I think  to use for  ... Even chances Gambling bet...  RED/Black ...   or
I think to   try   PUNTO/BANCO  or BACCARAT ....

it  seems that Roulette ... Zero is after me
to hunt me down  ... and I think to try another game ...

I don't Bet every "SPIN"
each test was 300 random integers..."1" and "2"

Loookig for MM..
Looking for way to play this...
I Have done some testing...
test are from random org ... so there is no house Edge...

How to Bet On it...?

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Guys what do you think ?

I want to become Trend player
for 5 years reading great forums for Gambling and Betting
Practically only that I have not tried to find my grail ...
So how to  Trend ?
How Better WITH trend or Conversely ?
At my big question is how to determine what will be The trend ? Before we begin to bet ...

I have read many times next ...
and like everything else works sometimes. What can I do to make it work better ... ?

and can not find ""AC Butch's Money Management Plan""

This even chance bet selection method is a tweak on my favorite e.c. trend catcher method.
I usually play FTL (follow the last).
If I get RBR I play for the single chops to continue.
If I get BRRBB I play for the double chops to continue.
Something I've noticed is that very often we get RRRBRRRRRBRRR. So we have a streak of R's
interrupted by a B every now and then. So, anytime we are betting a trend RRRR and we get a chop
RRRRB, instead of immediately switching to B, we assume that B is an interrupt and continue to
play for R's. If we do get RRRRBR we continue to play for the R trend to continue.
If it were to go to RRRRBB we would assume the B's are trending.
But if we get RRRRBBR now we have a good indication that doubles are trending so we bet for the
doubles to continue.
If we are playing RBRBR (chops) and we get RBRBRR this second R is assumed to be an interrupt
so we bet this RBRBRRB. We ignore the 2nd R and play for the chop.
If we get RBRBRRR, we have a clear indication that R is trending and bet accordingly.
If we have RBBRRBB and we get a B, we treat it like an interrupt and our next bet is for RR like
this: RBBRRBBBR.
If we get another B we have a difinite B trend so bet accordinly.
Those are the basic patterns and interrupts I play for.
I try to switch back and forth between the interrupt method and the non-interrupt method depending
on which would be doing the better. This knowing when to switch is not a science. It's a personal
decision based on experience playing the bet selection methods.
The ability to do this with enough expertise to make a difference falls under the heading of knowing
your system like the back of your hand.
All I can say is this is learned by comparing the results of a series of spins against interrupt vs noninterrupt
enough so you can tell which would be winning the best. We're assuming, of course, that
the current trend will continue long enough for you to identify a tendency on one side or the other
and it will last long enough for you to profit from it.
Often it doesn't. But all you have to do is win a few more spins every now and then by switching vs
just playing one method blindly. 3 or 4 extra wins per hour can make a big difference in your
bottom line.
GLC
_______________________________________
As some of you may know I have been testing/playing a merge with my bet selection method and
GLC's Interrupt method.
But first a recap of the basic method looking back three hands:
AAA bet A
ABA Bet B
ABB Bet B
AAB Bet B
Killer sequence is ABBABBABBABBA I have seen this pattern continue for up to eleven spins!
Now this is how I play for the killer sequence 3 or 4 basic method losses in a row bet for the killer
sequence, you have two ways of doing that, you could try and bet for the pattern to continue
ABBABBA and keep betting for the pattern until a break in the pattern, or as I mainly do just bet on
the B side so in the following sequence BBABBABBA I would get WWLWWLWWL, this is how I
play the killer pattern most of the time but sometimes I will try and go for the whole killer pattern
and go for the A part of the pattern, to get WWWWWWWWW, it's a matter of choice and how you
feel your session is going, what I found though a lot of the time the AABAABAA is broken by
going into AABAABAA-A so that is why most of the time I just stick to betting on the B side of the
killer pattern.
Now the above is based on basic method and when I talk about going for the Killer pattern after 3/4
losses it is based on if you had just played the basic bet selection method straight.
Right now you have read the thread you should understand about GLC's interrupt tweak.
I have also introduced a play for the 22 pattern,
ABBAA bet B for the chop to continue.
+AAABBAAB bet B for the chop to continue.
I played three sessions this morning on slingshot roulette, they ended +18, +13, +4 = +35
The +4 session ended after 13 spins due to problems on the site, it stopped updating the the results
and would not allow me to place any bets, so I just called it a day, after all I had already made +35
units for less than a few hours work.
I have attached my blank Roulette/Baccarat scorecards they aver very easy to use when you are
playing all you have to do is just place you unit bet size under the # column, so if in the next round
you wanted to place a three unit bet for red just enter 3 and once the round is over you enter an X in
the cell that won, based on where you entered your bet value and X the spreadsheet will know if
your bet won or not and will update you balance for you accordingly, if you are using the roulette
score card and a zero comes up just enter a Z for both R & B and the spreadsheet will know your
bet lost and update your balance for you also.
When you look at the two sessions I posted you will sometimes see and I in the blank colulmn that
means I have placed a Interrupt bet as per GLC's thread, and if you see a K that means I have had
three basic method losses in a row and I'm playing for the killer sequence.
If you are interested in the progression I used I have attached that for to look at, I'm sure most of
you have seen AC Butch's Money Management Plan before, it has been around for a long time and
is freely available on the net.
One thing the CLB column is the Current Loss Balance since my last session high, in Butch's
progression it states that if you have two wins in a row you then increas you bets so
2W2W3W3W4W4W ect, well if my CLB is bellow 0 then I will just place my bets based on the "If
you are down x" part of the document and if I do get the CLB back to z or better and on a winning
streak , will bet 3 units for a win ect. you will see examples of that in my two posted sessions, also
once I get to +14 I will never place a bet that will take my CLB bellow -5, I use the CLB as a
trailing stop-loss.
Also on my scorecards I have a Stage column if you use a progression that changes based on how
many units you are up or down you can track that in the stage column, you start of at stage 1 and
say you are down -6 and your progression calls for an increase just enter 2 in the stage column and
it will reset the stage to zero so you can track your wins losses for that stage.
If you use virtual betting in your method just enter V in the blank column next the the W/L column
and it will reset the bet value to zero but still track if you would have won or lost, so enter what unit
value you would have placed and enter V in the blank column, the spreadsheet will take care of the
rest.
malcop

Some test ...   from  random  org

what you mean ? are WE confident in the balance ?
if red and black are in balance ...  we are  to get a  some balance of wins / losses

Hello little rookie Questions
How much Bank should have  for a 1 chip bet?
How big bets (units) do you make  in these big drops ...
When do you decide that the bet has become too high???
and stop playing... accept the loss
and announce the " session lost"

P.s. 
Only once I played a negative progression and it was terrible ...
I lost everything ... what a surprise and now I'm afraid ...