Just as a general rule of thumb....


What kind of bankroll would you feel very comfortable with assuming that we are only talking in units....

1000 unit br?
5000 unit br?
10000 unit br?

Or would you want/need more?

casino chips, electronic squiggles, or however it is you choose to gamble it should not make a difference at all.....

before you get those chips or what have you.....you have to pull out the cold hard cash in order to get them

so my answer is it does not make a difference because it is one in the same

ND,

that's a long way to drive to work!



Mr.J,

They have Single 0 tables in the PA casinos, but they do not offer en prison.



Turner,

I thought I was lucky only having a 60 mile drive to my closest casino.  AC is only about 110miles from me as well

One more day until these Green Arrows are gone 

   
• ~:trigger happy: when an unintelligent feels invincible and while tracking sees another 'thing' happen and decides to play another game while waiting, usually resulting in a war against random and leaves the player mumbling unintelligent a$$ to itself, or just straying from the current game plan, we've all been there.

This needs to be added to the roulette dictionary [smiley]aes/thumb.png[/smiley]

If they were smaller and in the bottom corner or something they wouldn't be so bad.

As of now I voted "they suck" because they just get in the way and its annoying to have to read through them constantly

60 hand sample...


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Every time I read this topic and think I understand what's going I just confuse myself more.

Could you (or someone who understands) play this short 60hand sample out so I can try and get a better idea, it would be a great help.



Gizmo,
Have you found any conditions that prove to be more useful then others?

Bayes,
Thanks for that extra link. Still trying to figure it all out [smiley]aes/thinking.png[/smiley]



Gizmo,
The variance in my W/L sequence is very tight, most of the time. Its hard to determine conditional management as you put it.

For example I would consider an extremely good condition as winning on the first or second bet because that is win or break even situation, moderate would be winning between the 3nd and 6th bet, and extremely bad are the rare time over 6 losses are reached.

Even though there are extremely bad conditions, I believe they can only be extreme up to a certain point.


ND,
Maybe if its made with something better then Jack

All very good responses guys....

Bayes,
I am going to look into the link you posted to see if I can figure out what I need to do.


Bally,
My gut tells me this one is good. Flat betting shows profits!! Im going to see if I can get over 50% strike rate with 10k placed bets. I manual test so that may take a little while longer.

FLAT,
That sounds impressive. How many placed bets over those 20k spins? And is it an even chance bet?

Sam,
I am on the same page as you. Random has limits and I think if you set the conditions right you can take advantage of it.

RouletteKey,
Patience is a big part of the game. But don't about self control either

This is something that has always made me wonder.

The Van Keelen Test says that you need 55% wins flat betting over 1k placed bets.

What if you were able to hit 52-53% wins flat betting over 1k placed bets consistently? And by consistently I mean if you are able to accomplish this with at least a 60% session strike rate, 6/10 times. Would you consider that an advantage?

Although I think that it helps being at or more then 50% strike ratio, the key for me is in variance of the W/L distribution.

Now comes my next question...

How many placed bets does it take to consider the variance of your bet selection? If you have 5k placed bets and you have never seen more then 10 losses in row and it has only happened once do you consider that a good thing?

I would like some opinions on this. And I also to think it would be interesting to see what others set their bench marks at when it comes to testing requirements.

Just went and got 50 hands from random.org
Final results were 13/28 and there were 10L in a row at the end...
Is there anyway to try and avoid this variance?

1 2 2 2 1 2 1 1 2 2 2 1 2 1 1 1 1 2 2 1 2 2 2 1 2 1 2 2 1 1 2 2 1 2 2 2 1 1 1 2 2 1 2 2 1 2 2 1 1 2

I may be mistaken but the way I am understanding it these are the weak spots...


1
1
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2 O
2L
2L
1 O
1L
1L
2 O
2L
2L

and also

1
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1 S
1
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1 S
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1 S
1
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and chops

1
2
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2 O
1
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1 O
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2 O
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Am I not understanding correctly?