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#121
Straight-up / Re: One more step? 0.55555555557.
July 20, 2013, 08:18:55 AM
[smiley]aes/coffee.png[/smiley] Yes I am a heavy coffee drinker!

There are twelve streets: 1-3, 4-6, 7-9, 10-12, 13-15, 16-18, 19-21, 22-24, 25-27, 28-30, 31-33, and 34-36.
I bet only one number per street. If 17 comes first, I bet 17. If 36 comes next, I bet 17 and 36. And so forth and so on.
If any street reappears, I cross out this group; and I leave the number that I just occupied there.
If I won, it is time to go to the next level. Say retrack and bet two units on each following candidate.
If I did not win, I´ll continue betting the earliest numbers of the other streets.
AS SOON AS TWO STREETS HAVE  BEEN CROSSED OUT, I´LL GO ONE STEP DOWN AND RETRACK

There are three numbers in each street. The probability that one street comes twice without repeating its earliest number is 2/3.
The probability that TWO streets become repeats without repeating their earliest numbers: (2/3)^2 = 0,444444444444.
Now you don´t need a calculator to subtract it from 1  :applause: and see 0,555555555555555555........
                                                                                                                      Good luck!
                                                                                                                         Dane
#122
Straight-up / One more step? 0.55555555557.
July 20, 2013, 07:34:11 AM
I have mainly been playing with flat betting. Now I am using a kind of positive progression. The probability that I win (and go one step up) is 0,55555555557.
It is only a question of time, before I´ll reach the next level.  Time is still essential; and if you have the patience to continue after many  [smiley]aes/coffee.png[/smiley]breaks, this might interest you. In my test series I have chosen to end each session after winning with eight units on one number. But feel free to build a bigger ladder!
Four sessions (European roulette, rouletteRUs) resulted in 1082 units
                                                                               131    -
                                                                              -350    -
                                                                                847    -  .
As you can see, the results are very different from each other.
Today I tried the method on some lists from Spielbank Wiesbaden. The session required 270 spins  and ended with -68 units.
LEVEL   UNITS
1      X - 24
1      X - 26
1      X - 24
1      X - 22
1      X - 70 (I got a hir in spite of the negative result).
2      X   33
3      X   25
4      X   33
5      X - 26
4      X - 24
3      X - 47
2      X   27
3      X -  8
2      X   21
3      X - 34
2      X - 26
1      X   35
2      X - 43
1      x     8
2      X     2
3      X     8
4      X - 36
3      X   10
4      X - 32
3      X   23
4      X -  9
3      X   21
4      X -  8
3      X - 14
4      X - 32
3      X   26
4      X - 28 (I got a hit in spite of the negative result)
5      X   35
6      X   23
7      X   32
8      X     0.
.....................................After a [smiley]aes/coffee.png[/smiley] break I´ll tell you more.

                                                           


                                                                               
                                                                             
#123
Double-street / Re: 0.01543209876
July 19, 2013, 03:55:17 PM
Hi HarryJ. Welcome. I have been a tourist in Berlin and did not see your posts before now.  I am glad that this method suits you.
                                                 [smiley]aes/coffee.png[/smiley] Cheers
                                                                                                         Dane
#124
Double-street / Re: 123 Line Grind
July 03, 2013, 03:21:33 PM
Hi Vic
Have you ever noticed that many methods on DS or six lines can be used on straight up?
With this method  "a full cycle" could  consist of three spins WITHIN one line.
                                                              Cheers
                                                               Dane
#125
Double-street / Re: 0.01543209876
July 02, 2013, 04:02:58 PM
Time is still essential. A system should be tested for a long time. HARD WORK! But I am going to be a tourist in Berlin for a few days.
Having BUBBLE TROUBLES?  :o  Englisk proverb:
"Thousands drink themselves to death, before one dies of thirst"!
#126
Double-street / Re: 0.01543209876
July 01, 2013, 12:48:52 PM
Quote from: Priyanka on July 01, 2013, 12:39:46 PM
Thanks Dane for the prompt response! As this is the first system that I came across and this plays to my favourite which is lines, am going to use this for my first real money bet.
Good luck! Or as Bob Dylan might have said:  Love Minus Zero (No Limits) :whistle:
#127
Double-street / Re: 0.01543209876
July 01, 2013, 12:34:58 PM
Quote from: Priyanka on July 01, 2013, 11:52:49 AM
Dane,

I have tried playing 100 spins using your method. Would you be kind enough to let me know whether this is right?

[reveal=100 spins]
[csv=,]
Spin,Bank roll,Notes
36,100,Repeater bet
36,105,
28,104,
13,103,
31,102,
28,101,
29,106,"Two hits. Aim for sleepers 1-2-4"
21,109,"Aim for sleepers 1-2"
2,113,Aim for sleepers 2
35,112,
27,111,
33,110,
25,109,
20,108,
5,107,
36,106,
32,105,Third double hit start re-tracking
9,105,Repeater bets
0,104,
33,103,
5,102,
22,101,
25,100,
33,99,
6,98,
26,97,
16,96,All six appeared. Retrack
3,96,Repeater bets
3,101,
6,106,"Second double hit. start on sleepers"
18,107,
15,103,third double hit. Start retracking
33,103,Repeater bets
17,102,
2,101,
18,100,
30,99,
1,98,
28,97,
15,96,
32,95,
33,100,
29,99,
8,98,
8,103,"Second hit. go for sleepers."
21,108,All six appeared. Retrack
28,108,
21,107,
25,106,
31,105,
25,104,
35,103,
30,102,
17,101,
14,106,
32,105,
24,104,
36,103,
20,102,
20,107,Second hit. Go for sleepers
14,105,
24,103,
13,101,
11,105,
31,104,
10,103,
35,102,
17,101,
32,100,
4,105,All six appeared. Retrack
16,105,Repeater bets
20,104,
20,109,
27,108,
36,107,
7,106,
2,105,All six appeared. Rettrack
30,105,Repeater bets
26,110,
8,109,
8,114,Go for sleepers
5,116,
8,113,
33,116,
16,120,
19,125,All six appeared. Retrack.
17,125,Repeater bets
9,124,
24,123,
27,122,
7,121,
29,120,
0,119,
27,124,
28,129,Second hit. Go for sleepers
13,127,
32,131,
11,130,
23,129,
1,134,All six appeared. Retrack.

[/csv]
[/reveal]
Congratulations, Priyanka! You have played  in accordance with the :cheer: PRIMORDIAL :cheer: version!
#128
Double-street / Re: 0.01543209876
July 01, 2013, 12:20:54 PM
Quote from: Rouletta on July 01, 2013, 10:19:15 AM
Hi Dane
Thanks for replying; Another clarification if the two hits is in the same double
street; Do u still count it as two hits...., or it has to be in two different DS...?

During testing on live wheel I have frequently seen the two hits come one after the
other or three hits come very quickly; Would you quit as you have
achieved the three hit; and start a new game afterwards.....; or would
you continue.... To try to get more hits.....?  For ex:

5 Bet DS 1
5 Win – rebet DS 1
34 Loss – Bet DS 1 and 6
6 Win – Bet Ds 1 and 6
31 Win – The 3 wins are achieved quickly, What would you do next.....??

Regarding your question what I meant by "normal DS progression" is if my BR
is lower, I increase bet size by 1 after a win (Plus coup progression).

Thanks


Cheers

R
Hi R
Two hits are two hits; you can count on that! In the beginning I bet on THE LATEST DS ONLY; and I  hope to win twice in this way, before all six have turned up. If you want to, you may choose another number of hits. It should be clear by now, however, that I have chosen TWO. After that I bet the DS that have not come yet.
5   BET DS 1
5   BET DS 1. Notice: This is my first hit.
34  BET DS 6, only DS 6 and nothing but DS 6!
6  BET DS 1
31 BET DS 6
33......Notice: This is  my  SECOND HIT! Now I stop betting the latest DS and turn to the skiving  DS.
BET DS 2, DS 3, DS 4, and DS 5
25 Leave DS 5. BET DS 2, DS 3, DS 4
13 Leave DS 3. BET DS 2 and DS 4
15. END OF SESSION. The latest  DS reappeared.  No more bets, please! :forbidden:
                                 Cheers
                                   Dane
               
                             
#129
Double-street / Re: 0.01543209876
July 01, 2013, 06:20:32 AM
Quote from: Rouletta on June 30, 2013, 08:31:03 PM

Hi Dane

Thanks for replying ; I have tested it on live wheel with very good results so far.
However, I have a couple of questions in relation to the above example: When
the number 26 came, do u still keep on betting on DS 5…..?

In the above example, after 2 hits you bet on DS 1 and DS 3; However, for how about many
spins will u bet on them…..? Would you give up after say 3 or 6 LLLLLL's if they suddenly become
sleepers......? Would you use normal DS progression......?  thanks.

Cheers

R



Hi R
In the beginning I simply bet on the latest group. After TWO hits I bet only the skiving groups.
And I stop betting a skiving group as soon as it comes.
I do not know what you mean by "normal DS progression". But here I do not use any progression at all.
I prefer "masse égale" or flat betting.
                                                                    Cheers
                                                                     Dane
#130
Double-street / Re: 0.01543209876
June 30, 2013, 02:45:47 PM
Oh no! I start betting right after the first spin (area 1-36). The first spin (from the 5th of January 2010): 35.
I bet DS 6. The next spin: 27. I bet BS 5 and win, when 26 comes.
After two hits I stop betting the latest group and start betting the unhit group(s). I leave them as they come.
But, as I tried to explain, I end the session if the latest group repeats (that would have been the 3RD hit had I not left betting the latest group).
In some sessions all six groups come (that also ends the session).
I hope that it is clear now.    Cheers
                                          Dane
#131
Double-street / Re: 0.01543209876
June 30, 2013, 01:18:18 PM
Quote from: Sputnik on June 30, 2013, 12:33:49 PM

I don't understand how you play. But i understand that a dice has 98,5% hitting at least one repeat during one cycle of 6 throws/trails.
1.5% that is will show each side once during one cycle of 6 throws.

I also know that 98,5% of all sequential windows have imbalance where at least one side sleep for 789 10 11 12 up to 30 times.
So feel free to elaborate more about how you play.

Cheers
Some old professor or math in a television show once said that at least one side of a dice can sleep 100 times!  Anyway:
                                                          1 =  1-6
                                                          2 =  7-12
                                                          3 = 13-18
                                                          4 = 19-24
                                                          5 = 25-30
                                                          6 = 31-36.
05.02.2010, table 3

35  bet 6.
27   -   5.
26   -   5.  (notice:  FIRST HIT)
11   -   2.
20   -   4.
34   -   6.
21   -   4.
25   -   5.
20   -   4.
20............NOTICE: SECOND HIT! I expect exactly TWO hits in this way, before all six groups come. In other words:
               It is time to bet the remaining (missing, sleeping or skiving) groups.
         BET DS 1 AND 3.
1    BET DS 3.
3 END OF SESSION! The latest group repeated. I hope it´s all clear now.
#132
Double-street / 0.01543209876
June 30, 2013, 12:24:41 PM
0.01543209876.  Fascinating result! It´s the result of 5/6 X 4/6 X 3/6 X 2/6 X 1/6.  The probability that DS 1-6, 7-12, 13-18, 19-24, 25-30 and 31-36 all come in six spins (zero is ignored).
In most cases it takes more than ten spins for all six groups to come. So in the beginning of the session I simply bet (flat bet) the latest group.
In many cases I´ll get TWO hits in this way.  As a matter of fact  I hope to get EXACTLY TWO hits, before all  six have come. Right after the two hits I "switch over" and only bet the groups that have not come.  I then leave a group after a hit there.
The session ends if all six groups turn up. It also ends if the latest group comes again (after the initial two hits). As any experienced gambler knows, one DS may skive for a long time.
My first 25 sessions (from the 25 first days of 2010, table 3, Spielbank Wiesbaden) resulted in +40 units.
                                                                                                                                              Good luck!
                                                                                                                                                 Dane
#133
 Warning:I thought I had been very cautious. The session from 28.02.2010, however, turned out to be fatal.
The system in its present form is not good enough. I have some ideas for other versions; one of them might occur in a new topic later. After testing, that is.

                                                                      Dane
#134
Off-topic / Re: Concentration beyond comprehension!
June 23, 2013, 08:57:10 AM
Bravo! Almost as exciting as the movie House of Daggers!
#135
26
34
3
13
21
2...START betting 1 (see 1, 2, 3)
26
10...Add 16 to your betting (see 10, 13, 16)
31...  -   28 -    -      -       (see 28, 31, 34)
25...  - 27&23 (see 25, 26, 27 and 25, 23, 21)
18...Add 14 to your betting (see 10, 14, 18)
6...  -     9  -     -      -     (see 3, 6, 9)
35... -    36  -     -      -     (see 34, 35, 36)
36... HIT! LEAVE block 28-36 immidiately!
0
35
4... Add 5 (see 4, 5, 6)
9...HIT! See 3, 6, 9 and LEAVE block 1-9!
20...Add 19 (see 19, 20, 21)
22.. NOW there are five numbers in block 19-27.
As you know, I don´t tolerate more than five numbers in a block. So I LEAVE block 19-27.
I have left three of the four blocks. So the session ends here and now!
No more bets, thank you. :forbidden: STOP!

TIME is still important.
And trying to leave in time is most important.
                                                                 Dane