In many countries, they even run casinos (specially illegal ones),



I was......uh,better shut up Flat.

Quote from: Albalaha on March 12, 2013, 04:41:52 PM
Flat must have experienced that casinos in Macau even allow using cameras and video cameras openly. Where is Steve's hidden roulette computer? He should shift to Macau.

I openly used photo/video camera there/except in Lynn they didn't allow/
  Have a look debate between Steve and McMacao in thread 'roulette is beatable'
over on roulette forum,on that matter.

Quote from: Ralph on March 12, 2013, 12:53:57 PM



It is harder in USA, two zeros and banning if you win. It is not so in Europe. I have seen computers in casinos openly. The casinos trust they will make profit, and takes a HE from 1.3 on EC. You are allowed to win as long the play is fair.

--Here in my local casino I brought a tablet/but asked previously if could/on the table
and had original excel spreadsheet in front of me.There is lack of players around cause
of present recession WW and some casino are desperate to nail players.

Quote from: Sputnik on March 11, 2013, 03:43:20 PM
Do you believe you can flat betting and win consistently ?

Cheers

NO

I am confident of one thing:  If I reported that this system won, posted screen shots of the thousands it made and gave exact instructions on how to do it----very few would even listen let alone try it.  So if it's the "Holy Grail", the casinos are still safe.



TwoCat



Right on the nail,Sam.

Quote from: Marshall Bing Bell on March 11, 2013, 08:41:43 AM
It didn't as yet live playing.We play this throughout night session of about 350 spins,
swapping the tables after any plus,therefore its pure RvR approach,as when we hit the
new table, the bet is followed with the last 9 splits from the previous playing table.
Have you ever though of such approach,mr.Marshall?? Try it you may find it very interesting.


Yes I have mr. flatman and I take my hat off to you for trying this. Not many would have the guts to carry over the current state of their game to a new table. I have been playing systems that jump tables mid game for a while now. I don't know for sure if it improves thing, but it sure won't hurt over the long run, in my opinion.

Playing lvf9 like this will give you a kind of RvR game as long as you keep winning and table jumping, but there will be times when the game catches up and the RvR will be gone.--True,but the final/monthly,
yearly/score counts.There isn't ever winning method.

Is TCS playing like this online?--I suggest it....he tweaked it some....72/81 I think.I never play on line
as don't believe em.

What about when you go home after a day at the casino, do you come back tomorrow, or next week and start the new session with yesterday's or last week's last 9 splits?... always start new night session,and playing last 9 from previous table,even with smoke and coffee breaks,so it comes
to pure RvR......O yes there is to expect losing sessions.....we shall soon see it with Malta trip.

Quote from: Marshall Bing Bell on March 11, 2013, 12:50:05 AM
The system is a good attempt to lower variance, and perhaps break even for a while with some up and down fluctuation, but in the end it will lose at the house edge or above, sorry.

It didn't as yet live playing.We play this throughout night session of about 350 spins,
swapping the tables after any plus,therefore its pure RvR approach,as when we hit the
new table, the bet is followed with the last 9 splits from the previous playing table.
Have you ever though of such approach,mr.Marshall?? Try it you may find it very interesting.

Last 9 splits versus further 9 splits.......staying on lasts until change
then continue on furtest.....very simple,chops versus rides,and mostly
rides prevail on flat bet basis.Tested in hundreds of Wiesbaden sessions,
played for real in Wien and Wiesbaden recently with large stakes and been
successful.that's LvF 9.

Quote from: spike on March 10, 2013, 08:43:57 PM
Doing this? Its what you said you played om Feb 27th:

"There's no bet selection here,its just random against[size=78%] [/size]
random with a progression.

And its one of the most successful way of playing
LvF 9 splits that 2CAT Sam is presently exploring
and playing,is proving it.

I can talk about myself and some other todays and ex pro players.
As far as I'm concerned when going on the play trip anywhere,am not
going there without,at least 30 k.aiming winning 5-10% on nightly basis.
Sometimes I come/last week 2 nights in Znojmo/look,have a dinner,and
go to hotel without playing at all,comming back home with about 500 euros
minus for fuel and hotel.I met and seen many players around EU on regular
basis,especially Italians.The logical guestion here is;If these ppl.weren't winners
how come they are around for years.O yes they are losers....remember Niko Toša
The guy that took million and 3oo pounds in London few years back.Last I heard
from him was few years back from Australia,lost all and nobody ever heard from
him since.In other words VB play is a history with today wheels and balls.
Also remembered my trip to Macao few years back.....Almost 2 weeks there,such
long travel,without putting a chip on roulette table......this my friends are and should
be right signs of pro player.Close visual control of tables before you start playing/
I suggest you get the magnet detector/patience,self control and sufficient BR.and
ofcourse a method/s you know as well as yourself.

Quote from: Chrisbis on March 06, 2013, 08:06:29 AM
Totally agree with Bayes comment..........to be playing at single unit level, then u need a factor of at least 1000/u to give decent BR
So, for penny machines (0.01) - that's £$E100.00 , but if the base bet size is 1.00 u need a good deal more to cope with progression.


The payback on EC is so low..........your always rescuing the progression
Im now wondering if Johns idea on Matrix can be applied to Streets or even Lines?? hmmm 


[revealB] Making random repeat sequences ....
An EC has only a movement of one...there are only two options in a EC outcome.
A Street event has 12 outcomes And a Line has 6 outcomes.
Maybe random could be tamed here? [/revealB]Right on the nail,Chrisbis,even though those math
philosophers will tell you it is the same thing.

You lost a great man.Hopping everything goes well in Venezuela next days.

Long time no hear.Welcome back old boy.

Sputnik,
You can read all roulette experts/maths especially/there are, and you will learn NOTHING.
You know why???---All so far written theories about roulette game are only tales, of mostly
unexperienced/roulette playing/guys,lecturing ppl.maths.......and with such approach roulette
is UNBEATABLE.There are other ways to do that,but you can not do it with talking, but only with
real playing.Without enough munition you can not fight the war,and those maths guys wana win
the war without munition at all.The only way.All other is illusion.

Everything you said Vic stays.It is exactly how I behave while playing,and also trying to explain to
ppl./but haven't way to do so with words/how to beat the game mostly.The only problem I see here,
only few are really playing real live/all online/and everyone prefer doing it from his home sofa,preferably
with bot,but not probably aware they are throwing their money away thatway,as you can not win there.As if you do few times you are ban...so what's the point playing there.
It beats me how did internet prostituded this game of roulette into ww cheating bussines,and how
naive and stupid are ppl.playing there.