Victor, thanks for the answer. Hmm, PureBasic - I should give that one a look. You never know where a true speed demon might pop up. I have no need for another parallel numerical linear parser. You can rip the heck out of an XML document if you forget about structuring it first with a traditional hierarchy based parser.

Quote from: KingsRoulette on December 14, 2012, 04:54:48 AM
A bot for testing and playing your stuff?

"Bot" can be used as a generic term or it can be specific. I'm adding the option of having the computer make the bet selection for the next spin. So the user can make the bet selections, or the charting program can make the selection before the next spin is entered into the spin entry space. In either case you have bet selection telemetry for each spin. Don't you think that the millionaires will like that? They would just click on a button to get the smartest next bet selection.

Enough about RunRev & LiveCode.

This is why I use it, if you want to see.

http://www.runrev.com/products/livecode/text-and-data-processing/

Victor, or anyone, even though I dabbled with C & C+ for a while I couldn't get past the ease of developing on this language. I once begged RunRev to add a feature. I asked them to add the higher speed parallel string parser that I was using. That's how I found out that C+ was just a little faster. Here's my question. They say that the compiled applications developed with RunRev are for the most part C & C+. I know that they have simplified making the GUI elements in a simple drag and drop system. Yet there are thousands of programming functions and attributes that still make it powerful enough for more sophisticated tasks. How are they delivering Transcript (LiveCode) in C & C+ stand alone applications? Anyone?

Victor, it was powerful enough to create a true cross-platform original and unique browser for the internet. It even had cross platform files that worked on Windows and Mac 10 operating systems. You could download an entire website, including embedded pictures, in a single file. You could download other information in the same markup language and append it to an already open website. The import process would automatically index the added pages. The user could create their own text gathering system by the use of key words or phrases associated with points of interest found in the pages of the website. Once downloaded the website can be saved as a desktop file and would run off-line. I power tested it by loading the new and old testament as a single file. It could find a single word in about two seconds. It would bring it back and create a link to the page it was on as well as several words before and after for context. The user input was even faster, and with complete reference.  I checked several languages. Only C+ was faster. RunRev blew away Visual Basic and RealBasic.

Although I've built applications in both Visual Basic and RealBasic for Mac I really liked Director and shockwave. I chalanged the owners of RunRev  to give me a full top level license if I delivered the Blowfish algorithm in native Transcript. I believe they call it liveCode now. It's easy to deploy across many platforms. That top license allowed me a workspace on many native platforms with the same license. I was able to write cross platform code that senses the platform it was on and performed platform specific tasks. This is a true write once and deploy anywhere development tool. Not like write once debug everywhere. It's amazingly easy to develop sophisticated software that compiles as opposed to enterpit as some development tools do.

Code experiments and function development for proof of concepts.

Quote from: spike on December 13, 2012, 08:21:01 PM
I've asked you in the past, Gizmo, do not equate what
you do with what I do. I let you go on and on, implying
we have some kind of connection, but from what I've
seen we have none. 98% of the time I have no idea
what you're talking about.

YOUR POINT IS WELL MADE. You clearly have no idea what I mean when I say reading randomness. So why are you so upset. You don't own any rights to my work. You share almost nothing. You keep telling people that I fail in competitions and demonstrations. That's all you have. It's not enough as far as I'm concerned.

... it will be easy for most programmers to pick up on what is happening.

It will not operate as an online bot. It will show the next bets that it selects before the next spin is entered. It also runs in practice mode with a fair internal RNG based on the real layout of either the American Wheel or the European Wheel. I might put it out there where it will only run for one day. If it works I might hire an agent to sell it to several millionaires and billionaires. If you ever get your hands on it you will be just one of a throng stampeding towards the doors of every casino on planet earth. Just for the record. Its all there in my attacking trends thread. I will still answer questions. The human brain is for more powerful than a computer that only gets to make choices from the smaller list of possibilities. The task of pattern recognition is going to be difficult. Do I teach the computer to recognize any pattern or just a limited list of possibilities? This is going to be an interesting winter. I'm going to share customized functions that I create. Some here will find it interesting. I prefer my 4th generation language that looks like commentary and yet still compiles as a stand alone application. Even though it probably won't be a scripting language or a third gen language like C++,

Spike may verywell be right. I've done everything I can think of to teach this. There's only one thing that I haven't done. I have not done a step by step explanation of each bet, as it occurs. That is also a tedious use of my time. There might be two or three people here really interested. Anyone that learns this must bring their own acquired experiences to the process. There is no other way. All the computer program is going to do is start the mad scramble. It will be like opening a gate. The yes sign will go on. After the madness the story of how it was discussed openly for years will come out. That will be real interesting.

Quote from: Bayes on December 13, 2012, 09:54:48 AM
Gizmo, good for you.  I have the same intention but keep putting it off because it's a daunting task. I'm not unsympathetic to the idea of educated guessing/reading randomness because I use a certain amount of intuition in my bet selections. But unlike Spike, I don't entirely agree that it can't be taught, or more specifically, programmed. FAR more complex "systems" have been successfully coded, models for weather prediction, for example.

For those of you that might find anything remotely interesting in this thread, I intend to make educated guessing a mechanical based computer algorithm. When I came up with the list of attributes and characteristics it was easy to see that these could be used by a computer to isolate conditions. Then I upgraded the software to easily accept bets and to display telemetry. All that is left to do is put a layer for global effect and the effectiveness layer. All this can be programmed. And to make it as truthful as possible as a validation of concept, I've built it to use entered spins from any real source. I can't wait to put my brain in a hammock and let the slave do all the work. This should be a real interesting year. I get to write my entire bet selection process into a computer program.

Quote from: spike on December 13, 2012, 06:27:40 AM
You say that like vague and ambiguous is a bad thing..

Really! I just helped spend six years being deliberately vague and ambiguous.

KR, you seem to like monumental statements. So you should love this one. I'll be dead in a few years. I still enjoy going to the casinos. That charting program that I provided to anyone at this forum is about half way to being my validation of concept. When I turn that version loose I will notify the entire world of its existence. I will also notify everyone of my four favorite Roulette forums where I handed it out on a platter to people that clearly rejected it. Once that happens the proverbial s*** will hit the fan. My computer program will prove that negative outcome casino games can easily be mastered and beaten. You are now and will be then an insignificant contribution to best wisdom and sense of my effort to make things clear.  Go ahead. Warn everyone that will listen to you. See if I care.

Quote from: KingsRoulette on December 13, 2012, 05:33:47 AM
      Can you dare to have a test-ride upon a million spins or you will keep talking of your "hidden skills" only? Come up with a well defined approach/system that can be tested as winner or failure. All of us can then learn how far your "educated guessing" work over other known methods.

Hey. I don't think there is a single person here stopping you from testing it. I've pretty much given the entire thing away. Even of those that are attempting to learn this have expressed difficulties in understanding it. I've given a brief outline of information that took me years to perfect into a method. If you can't figure it out in a few hours that is not my problem. It takes years of real playing experience with real money on the line to grasp the importance of the experience needed to execute this properly. If that's to much of a demand on you and your followers that's not my fault. I didn't have to share this. Frankly, I'm only doing to prove that almost everyone will reject it