Nice going Spike. That was a great catch.

QuoteI was Fender1000, and the Zone was a good method that I started off with 8 years ago.

But PATTERN BREAKER is on another level. It flows with random it doesn't fight it. RANDOM CHOOSES YOUR BET SELECTION FOR YOU. It doesn't get better than that.

OK then. It's Todd and then ReTodd.

I tried posting testing data. Once that was rejected because of h&r I added hit and run to the testing software. I Even used a telemetry based validation technique. I used a 6 million spin sample. All this was rejected and I was tagged a negative personal attacker. So I can't say that I am thrilled with your idea. At least I can say that I tried to post a lucid objection based on real data. I guess my next task is to wait a year to be proven wrong.

Look at the very interesting trends in the black & reds. They are solid characteristics. There is an absence of chaos.

My Chart:
| 1 2 3 | L M H | | B  R | L  H | O  E | -- ##
|     X |   X   |  | X    |    X | X    | -- 29 --  1
|   X   | X     |  | X    | X    | X    | -- 13 --  2
|   X   |   X   |  | X    |    X |    X | -- 20 --  3
| X     | X     |  | X    | X    |    X | -- 10 --  4
| X     |     X |  |    X | X    |    X | -- 12 --  5
|     X |     X |  |    X |    X | X    | -- 27 --  6
|   X   | X     |  |    X |    X | X    | -- 19 --  7
|   X   | X     |  | X    | X    | X    | -- 13 --  8
|     X |   X   |  | X    |    X | X    | -- 29 --  9
|   X   |     X |  | X    | X    | X    | -- 15 -- 10
| X     |     X |  |    X | X    | X    | --  3 -- 11
|     X |   X   |  |    X |    X |    X | -- 32 -- 12
| X     | X     |  |    X | X    | X    | --  1 -- 13
|   X   | X     |  | X    |    X |    X | -- 22 -- 14
|   X   |     X |  |    X | X    |    X | -- 18 -- 15
|   X   | X     |  |    X | X    |    X | -- 16 -- 16
| X     |     X |  | X    | X    |    X | --  6 -- 17
| X     | X     |  |    X | X    | X    | --  7 -- 18
| X     | X     |  | X    | X    |    X | -- 10 -- 19
|     X |     X |  |    X |    X |    X | -- 36 -- 20
| X     |   X   |  | X    | X    |    X | --  2 -- 21
|   X   |     X |  |    X | X    |    X | -- 18 -- 22
| X     | X     |  |    X | X    | X    | --  1 -- 23
|     X |     X |  |    X |    X |    X | -- 30 -- 24
|     X | X     |  | X    |    X |    X | -- 28 -- 25
|   X   | X     |  | X    |    X |    X | -- 22 -- 26
|     X |   X   |  | X    |    X | X    | -- 35 -- 27
| X     |     X |  |    X | X    |    X | -- 12 -- 28
|     X |     X |  |    X |    X |    X | -- 30 -- 29
|   X   |     X |  | X    | X    | X    | -- 15 -- 30
| X     |   X   |  | X    | X    |    X | --  2 -- 31
| X     |     X |  |    X | X    | X    | --  9 -- 32
| X     |     X |  |    X | X    | X    | --  3 -- 33
| X     | X     |  |    X | X    | X    | --  1 -- 34
|   X   | X     |  | X    | X    | X    | -- 13 -- 35
|     X |   X   |  | X    |    X |    X | -- 26 -- 36
| X     |     X |  |    X | X    |    X | -- 12 -- 37
|     X |     X |  |    X |    X |    X | -- 30 -- 38
| X     |     X |  |    X | X    |    X | -- 12 -- 39
|------------------------------------| -  0 -- 40

Quote from: Bally6354 on December 03, 2012, 10:54:22 PM


finals 1, 2 and 6.

I am getting slow in my old age!!

Bingo! ... another way to say it is the last digit in each number. The current theme is visual dexterity. I'm trying to get across the different ways of seeing trends or patterns where you might normally never see them.  Next I'll try to post an example of my normal playing chart.

Now for something different. What do you see. Or in this case what do you not see:

21, 36, 12, 2, 11, 6, 32, 31, 22, 16, 21, 26, 1, 1, 26, 32,

Quote from: monaco on December 03, 2012, 11:39:57 AM
21 series in a row is about 4.58SD.

Lack of a dominant dozen, but as Subby says - 1 appearing at the end of every triple.

Yes, 21 singles in a row is highly unlikely. But this is a sequence of the absence of any single occurring. I think you will find a lower SD value.

Yes, Subby sees it. It's a perfect pattern while it occurs. These kinds of things happen. The human brain can pick patterns out of the chaos. There's no mathematical explanation for them occurring. There's no probability study that determines how long they will last. And best of all, I doubt that even few pit bosses even know they occur.

I deleted Kattilla too. I don't mind topical discussion. I've never come up with a way to use progressions with the characteristics of randomness being used for bet selections. Now that would be on topic. In that case it might be a good idea to ask for it to be split off.

This thread is to teach. It's not for debating if it works. That comes later, in another thread, after this extensive craft is completely related.

Quote from: MarignyGrilleau on December 03, 2012, 07:46:23 PM
I have to ask, Gizmotron did you delete my previous post? I would swear i did post something else here.

I don't have the ability to split a topic. Two of you took this thread so off topic, and cluttered it with huge posts that the vacuum cleaner was in order. If you want a topic on your favorite progression and endless strings of mind numbing spins then please start another thread. Please.

So do you have any use for what I'm teaching in this thread. Do you have a method where opportunities let you make from 1 to 10 bets that perform as if you knew what was coming? Even though everyone knows that it is just speculation. I'm teaching how to take advantage of opportune moments. I will also teach how to deal with it when it doesn't work very well.

Quote from: MarignyGrilleau on December 03, 2012, 10:51:05 AM
From my own experience it is less volatile to watch formations and speculate on the principles of distribution of series than on individual outcomes.
These principles of distribution dictate that the observable behavior of the distribution is independent of the window size of events analyzed. It does not matter if it is 60 spins or 1000 spins or even 10.000.
Also, as i mentioned somewhere else, the same principles are valid to observe any random distribution, independently of its provenience or time frame. With this i mean that one can observe for instance the first 3 spins of one table and then the next 3 spins from another table, etc...


Cheers

 YOU GOT IT!  NICE GOING. I would have seen it by the fifth time that it occurred. That would have left seven more chances to treat this example of a sequence to an absolute killing. I know because I've done it. If you are not prepared to take advantage of rare moments then you have no chance of taking advantage of them. It's very simple.

Regarding the rest. If you want to always look at randomness as an opportunity to speculate on correction and / or the natural inclination for trends to end then go for it. It must at times turn out to be significantly practical. You see, most techniques in roulette turn out to give you three kinds of results.

With regards to following a dominance. All perfect dominance conditions degrade either quickly or slowly eventually. Sometimes they can be part of a huge occurring global state. I've seen a global state occur on four different tables over a four and a half hours one evening. The same 12 numbers took an almost perfect 41/2 hour nap. Of course I bet against it. That was my first experience with seeing something in randomness.

Quote from: subby on December 03, 2012, 10:03:06 AM
I've enjoyed reading this thread but surely in that last example with the 3 number series of numbers with the 1 always at the third number...Surely the odds of that continuing are slim, I'd bet against it myself.

IMO you can't tell if something is correcting...as the example in page 1, the original poster said that "red went on another streak when black tried to correct" or words to that effect. It looks easier to follow after the numbers have already been spun.
http://betselection.cc/meta-selection/the-simple-explanation-attacking-trends/?action=dlattach;attach=566;image
Again the Is there really a way to see if Black was to become dominant? How can you say that red won't go again on another long run....that image could just be part of an even BIGGER picture in terms of numbers spun...and red being dominant yet again might be the result of correcting a huge black dominance in 1000 spins? You just don't know...still interesting to read though. I like the chat, even if I'm a bit dubious about being able to use it

Quote from: subby on December 03, 2012, 09:41:43 AM
what? By betting for the single dozen to keep going or bet against it keeping going (i.e. bet 2nd and 3rd columns)?

By betting for it to continue. The bet is explained further down. You use a multi faceted positive progression that uses let-it-ride with each facet being pulled at different steps of success. So in this example of seven in a row, you begin the attack after seeing the first three in a row. It would be stupid to begin an attack after seven in a row. The horse had already left the barn.

Quote from: topcat888 on December 03, 2012, 07:14:24 AM
A load of numbers..? I've got just one question for you, after reading the whole of your thread, could you just clarify what BS stands for, BetSelection or nonsense..?

Global Effect, oh come on..! You are simply and unequivocally guessing, nothing more, nothing less, smoke and mirrors comes to mind.

It's no guess that you consider your opinion as more informed than mine. I couldn't be happier that some people have a need to be seen as superior. A snarky remark, a almost indifference pose, you act like I ripped you off. Please keep searching for that elusive progression that will make you a success. Of course it's a guess. Did you think I was going to teach you a magic trick. Nobody knows or is able to predict the future.

2,3,1,1,2,1,3,2,1,3,3,1,2,2,1,0,2,1,3,1,1,2,2,1,3,3,1,3,2,1,2,3,1,2,0,1,3,2,

2,3,1, 1,2,1, 3,2,1, 3,3,1, 2,2,1, 0,2,1, 3,1,1, 2,2,1, 3,3,1, 3,2,1, 2,3,1, 2,0,1, 3,2,

Now what do you see?