Interesting thinking. Now consider this. 123 123 can only happen in a streak of singles. Now consider this. How often does any first three spins duplicate in the next three spins?

Quote from: RouletteGhost on January 24, 2017, 10:46:40 PM
The idea can 100 percent be backed up

In 37 spins there will be multiple repeaters

We just don't know which

And some of those repeaters are three peaters

It's getting strange. The entire internet world of gambling forums is going GaGa for OneUps with layering. All of this is TurboGenius's fool's parade. It's very funny too. He has started one of the very best baloney festivals.

This forum is being played by people that think that 1 up on all the bets is a good idea. If it's not that then there is a harmonic convergence of ignoramuses that have zero playing experience and want to come off as informed beggars.

Quote from: Denzie on January 24, 2017, 06:12:06 PM
It's not negative. It's reality. Just as your methods are all big time losers. It is what it is.

It's difficult to tell people that a set of strict rules for bet selections will not work. Just look at how far Snowman and all his alias puppets gets him. People will not move past rule based systems until they get tired of researching them and discovering that they all fail, even if they do the very best, they still fail at the mathematical rate of the house edge. There is a phase of researching winning methods that is past trying to beat the math. Math will not tell you when a favorable coincidence will take place. So math must be left behind for coincidence. The key to winning is in exploiting the coincidences that occur everyday in casinos.

Quote from: soxfan on January 19, 2017, 09:07:03 PM
Sheesh, cats are writin books all over the joint, hey hey.

hey hey, yeah -- and not one of them has clearly shown how exactly to deal with unpredictable trends. People all over the world want to know how to deal with trends to their advantage. The trick is to have a skill and a plan on how to use that skill. They all stop at follow the trends. That's where I start. We have the hung-up-gamblers that think they have exhausted their intellect on trends and found them to be nothing worth exploiting. I'm glad too. It would be worthless to make it easy. And guess what? It isn't easy and it never will be. Just how badly do you want to be great at something? I've been great at everything. This is my intellectual boundary, --- it is presented just for the sake of "I dare you to master this too." That's the only reason that it is offered.


I don't care if the chronic forum surfers of the gambling world reject this. I'm going to bring the throngs around their turf just to show them how they didn't see it. That's my goal. I like smash mouth in your face just to see the surprise on your faces. It's all here, published for the entire world to see it. --- once they know exactly what to look for, -- hey hey!


I just want a few friends to have gotten in on it before this huge embarrassing moment takes place. Even my goal is eugenically dismissive as too being far fetched. I've made you my "sons." I'm working you. You are my tools. If you reject it, you are positioned as less than clever. If you get it, you are seen as cool with it. I rock climbed for decades. It's fun to watch people chicken out because they always have an excuse just before deciding to do it. That's why I like watching the decisions that gamblers make. They always have an excuse for losing. The internet is really fun if you know what you are looking for. My fun has been to teach skeptics how to see things that are very difficult to see. You can't imagine how it will be to be the grist mill that ground out the wheat on the threshing floor. I was made mad ten years ago. This is my retribution for it all. What better way to mess with people's minds than to tell them a truth that looks unbelievable. The book is meant to blow people's minds. You will have to take the onlookers on a great journey if you want them to love it. You guys on the forums are the fascination of a good story. People will want to know why you missed it, when it was right in front of your faces.  HEY! HEY! This is amusement 101. Thanks for playing gambler in front of the whole world to see.

This is a notice to let people here know that I will be shutting down any new students after Feb 1, 2017. The forum based school will remain open as long as any students wish to participate. Recently a few of us have been dissecting TurboGenius' so called working progression. That includes software that I wrote to test these ideas.


I'm going to publish a Roulette gambling book in about six months. There is software at the school that will only be available to the students that are there. I might create a simple charting program for the book but not an elaborate teaching version like I have for the school.


Just PM me if you want in before the deadline.


If not, I hope you like the book scheduled for summer release.

Welcome to reality. Just take it with a grain of salt. What you see is what you get. ...baseball has been berry berry good to me.

Vic, this is very cool. You can talk behind anyone's back one on one. So who can see these chat's?

Yes, I particularity like the way he writes a few more insults and then closes the thread. My favorite thing for this year will be proving the existence of the global effect to people that can't see it. I was thinking of writing a program that colors the X's so that a blind squirrel can see them.

Nice try. These bone headed headshrinkers are as pathetic as they can be, all be it total ignorance. They project their logic as a cause of problem gambling.


You don't EVER have to believe anything is due in order to use trends and patterns. There are times when following obvious trends produces absolutely dismal results and there are times when the same obvious trends produce incredible results. I know how to tell if following the trends is working for me or not. A room full of psychobabble speaking psychiatrists can be taught the difference between winning most of their bets and losing most of their bets. This is a needed requirement of their observation skills. They don't need to be put on a couch to get past this.


Now the real test. Can you tell when you are in a losing streak or a winning streak? It does not matter how you arrive at your bet selection. Can you tell if you are having an easy winning session or a difficult losing session? I don't see expectations having anything to do with real results. Expectations of any kind are "gamblers Fallacy" and they only serve the academic community as an excuse to validate subjective arguments that impress the uninformed. You are such a person that is effected by their arguments.


It will be fun to watch you miss the point. It will be a real education for everyone here for you to have this go right over your head.


Choke on this one. There are times when I'm playing that all my guesses line up perfect and I get 20 to 30 wins in a row without a loss. Now the chances of winning the next bet still remain at only 61% on any spin, no fallacy here, yet I manage to see it for what it is and hammer the casino for seeing it. I don't care if you think it is stupid. I think you can't hear me. Perhaps someday you will see the difference. I know people can't see things all their lives. They dig in and fight back every time they are disagreed with irregardless of the truth.


The results of real live play are not an illusion based belief. They occur and should be observed. Using a trend to create a stream of results data is in fact a real existing method. Confirmation of situational awareness is the only thing that matters.


Can you see the difference?

Validation & peer review. That takes real research methods that are accepted. For me to be impressed they would need to exclude newbies and slot players. It takes at least 1,000 in the control group to be considered as a very small sample. And the Adrenalin and Endorphin levels would need to be part of the research too. Now that being said, it would be great to isolate real problem gamblers and see what it is that they really think.

Quote from: Albalaha on December 30, 2016, 01:07:20 PM
"Gamblers are more impulsive and 'see patterns' where there are none." https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/04/150429100937.htm

Very interesting experiment. Flawed research, passed off as Psychological research, does not impress me much. True psychological experiments involve much larger control groups than this to be considered valid. This BS would never pass a peer review for any credible journal. This: "In a laboratory setting, the researchers compared the betting habits of 91 habitual gamblers against 70 community members," This exhibition of proof is suspect because the researches have already decided that certain characteristics that confirm their conclusions already exists in 91 people tested. This is flawed research using confirmation bias. Perhaps the article should be about Pathological Research Psychologists that see patterns in gamblers.


I'm sure they justified their findings enough to keep getting government grants. Funny how money taints things. This is junk science. They didn't even bother to allow for chemical reactions obstructing reason. The world of headshrinkers is still not a settled science. Not by a long shot.


BTW, you are calling us habitual gamblers, Pathological Gamblers in your association with their conclusions. Here's one for you to chew on for the rest of your gambling life. A perfect pattern that reoccurs for up to 30 spins in a row is an Elegant Pattern. Keep your blinders on for that mirage.

Magic, pull somebody else's leg. Anyone can cherry pick a great win streak. You should read what I have to say about the three and now five stages of the Effectiveness States.


Do yourself a huge favor and go to a casino and really put it on the line. If it works like you say, you might want to capitalize on it before the opportunity to do so dries up.

Quote from: Albalaha on December 30, 2016, 11:25:38 AM
If you are now seeing say BBBB what can you identify seeing this? If you guess this is streak, the chance of ending the streak right here and goin one more time is equal. How can you utilize that? After the end of a session it is easier to analyse but identifying an "opportunity" at correct times could be done only with clairvoyance. Sadly I do not have clairvoyance. I work on logic only.

OK, nobody knows anything because there is no evidence showing context to go on.


What do you do with this: BBBB PPPP BBBB PPPP BBBB PPPP BBBB PPPP BBBB PPPP


Now that was a perfect example of the global effect but even a neophyte gambler can figure this out if it were just a little less than perfect. Sometimes there is context. I recommend that you ignore this when it stairs you in the face. Just keep mumbling the mantra 5% hopelessness.

This is amusing. Magician, master of magical thinking, and not ashamed to show it. Albalaha, trying to ignore opportunities by dismissing the clues people hand him.


Dismiss this: Every 300 spins there are coldest numbers that always closely produce the same statistical average number of hits. If you filter these numbers out of balanced play choices like the double dozens or the EC's, if you have the skill to identify them, if you know the nature of how cold numbers wake up and active numbers go to sleep in 300 spins, then based on that alone, without any magical math, but with plain old arithmetic, you can beat the math. It all comes down to clod number identification. If your balanced play follows the math you should be about 5% down at the end of the 300 spins. But if you filtered out the coldest numbers along the way you should be well above the even point. The needed information to do this is experience. I have it and both of you don't, by your own admission of understanding.


You've been schooled.