Here: Try to read randomness.




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|       X | X       |       X | P | -- 31
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|    X    | X       |       X | P | -- 22
| X       | X       |    X    |   | -- 7
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| X       |    X    |    X    |   | -- 2
| X       |    X    |    X    | P | -- 11
|    X    |       X | X       |   | -- 15
| X       |       X |    X    |   | -- 12
|-------------------| X       | P | -- 37
|       X | X       |       X | P | -- 34
| X       |       X |       X | P | -- 9
|       X | X       |       X | P | -- 34
| X       | X       |    X    |   | -- 4
|       X | X       |       X | P | -- 34
| X       |    X    |    X    |   | -- 2
| X       |       X |       X | P | -- 6
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|    X    |    X    |       X | P | -- 17
|    X    |    X    |       X | P | -- 17
|    X    |       X |    X    | P | -- 21
| X       | X       | X       | P | -- 10
|       X |    X    | X       | P | -- 32
|       X |       X |    X    |   | -- 36
| X       |       X |       X | P | -- 6
| X       |       X |       X | P | -- 9
|    X    |    X    |    X    |   | -- 20
| X       | X       |    X    |   | -- 4
| X       |    X    |    X    |   | -- 2
| X       |    X    |    X    |   | -- 2
| X       |    X    |    X    | P | -- 11
|    X    | X       |       X | P | -- 22
|       X |    X    | X       |   | -- 35
|       X |       X |       X |   | -- 27
| X       |    X    | X       | P | -- 5
|    X    |    X    |       X |   | -- 14
| X       | X       | X       | P | -- 10
|       X | X       |       X |   | -- 25
|    X    | X       | X       |   | -- 16
| X       | X       |    X    |   | -- 4
| X       |       X |       X | P | -- 9
|    X    |    X    |       X |   | -- 14
|       X |       X |    X    |   | -- 30
| X       |       X |    X    |   | -- 12
| X       |       X |       X | P | -- 9
| X       |       X | X       |   | -- 3
| X       | X       | X       | P | -- 10
|       X |       X |    X    |   | -- 30
|       X |    X    |       X |   | -- 29
| X       | X       |    X    |   | -- 4
|    X    |    X    |    X    |   | -- 20
|    X    |    X    |       X |   | -- 14
| X       | X       |    X    |   | -- 4
|    X    | X       |       X | P | -- 22
|       X |    X    | X       | P | -- 26
| X       |    X    | X       | P | -- 5
|       X | X       |       X | P | -- 34
|       X |    X    | X       | P | -- 32
| X       |    X    | X       | P | -- 5
|       X |       X |    X    |   | -- 36
|    X    |       X |       X |   | -- 18
| X       |       X |       X | P | -- 9
| X       |    X    |    X    | P | -- 11
|    X    |    X    |    X    |   | -- 20
|       X |    X    |       X |   | -- 29
|       X |       X |       X |   | -- 27
|    X    |    X    |       X |   | -- 14
|    X    | X       |       X |   | -- 13
| X       |       X |       X | P | -- 6
|       X |    X    |       X |   | -- 29
| X       | X       |    X    | P | -- 1
|       X |       X |    X    |   | -- 36
|    X    |    X    |       X | P | -- 17
|    X    |       X |       X |   | -- 18
|       X | X       |    X    | P | -- 28
| X       |       X | X       |   | -- 3
|    X    |       X | X       |   | -- 24
| X       |    X    | X       |   | -- 8
|    X    |    X    | X       | P | -- 23
|       X |       X |       X |   | -- 27
|       X |       X |       X |   | -- 27
| X       |    X    | X       |   | -- 8
|    X    |       X |    X    | P | -- 21
| X       |    X    | X       |   | -- 8
|       X |       X |    X    |   | -- 30
|       X | X       |       X | P | -- 31
| X       |       X |    X    |   | -- 12
|    X    |    X    | X       | P | -- 23
|       X |       X |    X    |   | -- 33
|       X |       X |       X |   | -- 27
|-------------------| X       | P | -- 37
|    X    | X       | X       |   | -- 19
| X       |       X |    X    |   | -- 12
| X       | X       |    X    | P | -- 1
|       X |    X    | X       | P | -- 32
| X       |    X    | X       | P | -- 5
|    X    | X       | X       |   | -- 19
| X       | X       |    X    | P | -- 1
| X       | X       |    X    | P | -- 1
|       X |       X |    X    |   | -- 36
|    X    |       X |    X    | P | -- 21
|       X |    X    | X       |   | -- 35
|       X | X       |    X    | P | -- 28
|    X    |    X    |       X |   | -- 14
|    X    | X       | X       |   | -- 19
| X       |       X |       X | P | -- 6
| X       |       X | X       |   | -- 3
|       X | X       |       X | P | -- 31
| X       |    X    |    X    |   | -- 2
| X       |    X    | X       |   | -- 8
| X       |    X    |    X    | P | -- 11
|    X    | X       | X       |   | -- 16
|    X    |    X    | X       | P | -- 23
|    X    |       X | X       |   | -- 24
|       X |       X |    X    |   | -- 36
|       X |       X |       X |   | -- 27
|       X |    X    | X       | P | -- 32
|       X |    X    |       X |   | -- 29
|    X    |    X    |    X    |   | -- 20
| X       | X       | X       | P | -- 10
|       X |       X |       X |   | -- 27
|    X    |    X    |    X    |   | -- 20
| X       |       X |       X | P | -- 9
| X       |       X |       X | P | -- 9
|    X    | X       | X       |   | -- 19
|    X    |    X    |       X |   | -- 14
|       X | X       |    X    | P | -- 28
|    X    |    X    |       X | P | -- 17
|    X    |    X    |       X | P | -- 17
|    X    |    X    |       X |   | -- 14
| X       | X       | X       | P | -- 10
|    X    |       X | X       |   | -- 24
|    X    |       X | X       |   | -- 24
|    X    |    X    |    X    |   | -- 20
|    X    | X       | X       |   | -- 19
| X       |    X    | X       |   | -- 8
|       X | X       |       X |   | -- 25
|       X | X       |    X    | P | -- 28
|       X |       X |    X    |   | -- 30
| X       | X       |    X    |   | -- 4
|    X    |       X |    X    | P | -- 21
| X       |       X |    X    |   | -- 12
|-------------------| X       | P | -- 37
|       X |    X    | X       |   | -- 35
|       X | X       |       X | P | -- 31
|       X |       X |    X    |   | -- 30
|       X | X       |       X | P | -- 31
| X       |       X |       X | P | -- 9
|       X |       X |    X    |   | -- 33
| X       |       X |       X | P | -- 9
|    X    |    X    |       X | P | -- 17
|       X | X       |    X    | P | -- 28
| X       |    X    | X       | P | -- 5
|    X    |       X | X       |   | -- 24
|    X    | X       | X       |   | -- 16
| X       |       X |    X    |   | -- 12
| X       |       X | X       |   | -- 3
| X       |       X | X       |   | -- 3
|       X | X       |       X | P | -- 31
|       X |    X    |       X |   | -- 29
|       X |       X |       X |   | -- 27
| X       |       X |       X | P | -- 6
| X       |    X    | X       |   | -- 8
| X       |    X    | X       |   | -- 8
|    X    | X       | X       |   | -- 16
|       X | X       |       X | P | -- 34
|    X    |       X | X       |   | -- 24
| X       | X       |    X    |   | -- 4
|       X |       X |    X    |   | -- 33
|-------------------| X       | P | -- 37
|       X | X       |    X    | P | -- 28
| X       | X       |    X    | P | -- 1
|    X    |    X    | X       | P | -- 23
|    X    |       X |       X |   | -- 18
| X       | X       |    X    | P | -- 1
| X       |       X |       X | P | -- 6
|       X | X       |       X | P | -- 31
|       X |       X |    X    |   | -- 30
|       X |    X    | X       | P | -- 32
|       X | X       |       X | P | -- 31
| X       |       X |       X | P | -- 9
| X       |    X    |    X    | P | -- 11
|    X    |    X    | X       | P | -- 23
|       X | X       |       X |   | -- 25
|    X    |       X | X       |   | -- 15



The spins: 9,17,18,13,1,29,22,9,8,15,31,18,22,7,35,2,11,15,12,37,34,9,34,4,34,2,6,27,16,21,35,25,33,17,
17,21,10,32,36,6,9,20,4,2,2,11,22,35,27,5,14,10,25,16,4,9,14,30,12,9,3,10,30,29,4,20,14,4,22,26,5,34,32,
5,36,18,9,11,20,29,27,14,13,6,29,1,36,17,18,28,3,24,8,23,27,27,8,21,8,30,31,12,23,33,27,37,19,12,1,32,5,
19,1,1,36,21,35,28,14,19,6,3,31,2,8,11,16,23,24,36,27,32,29,20,10,27,20,9,9,19,14,28,17,17,14,10,24,24,20,
19,8,25,28,30,4,21,12,37,35,31,30,31,9,33,9,17,28,5,24,16,12,3,3,31,29,27,6,8,8,16,34,24,4,33,37,28,1,23,18,
1,6,31,30,32,31,9,11,23,25,15,

Quote from: Albalaha on December 13, 2016, 01:11:09 AM
It is only as good as saying in 100 spins you should get 48/49 blacks and reds and rest 0. What should happen averagely may not happen while you play. It could go better or worse.

I'm saying that almost every time I sit down to play there are almost always continuous opportunities, and am willing to prove it to you right here. I track 12 sets of dozens that make up 4 individual groupings. Most people know what the dozens/columns are. That's two groups easily known. If there is a total absence of opportunities from the sleepers or the singles then that too is knowledge. The flow of randomness is always telling you something, if you can read the language. Now I too must read the variance, or handle it as you say. But I'm never at the mercy of long term statistical arithmetic. It is far better to exist in the here-and-now of what randomness is currently offering up. For that matter it is the here-and-now of the variance too.

Quote from: Albalaha on December 10, 2016, 11:31:51 PM
Mild progression works best but even that is not enough by itself to handle all varieties of variance. Gizmo's claim of identifying opportunities is a bit vague. In my humble opinion we can not identify any opportunities. By seeing WWWW, we can't say if it will go any further or end right there. Both are equally likely and house edge/house fees is still there to worsen things.

Here is how to look at it. In a 200 spin session you will see more than 50 six in a rows, 10 eight in a rows, and 2 fifteen in a rows of singles or sleeper opportunities. It takes a first win on double dozens to help average out the balance point of placing double dozen bets that balance two out of three times to make up a 50/50 outcome, by flat betting. By winning that first bet at twice the value of your second bets and beyond you change the dynamic of the balance point. This is done at a 64% chance of doing it too. At that point you are hunting for possible starting points that are completely unknowable.


You must admit at some point to yourself that gambling is a risk and reward activity. I risk first bets at twice the value of my other flat bets in an activity that rewards me for finding opportunities that would go unrewarded if I didn't set out to discover them in the first place. All the rewards became apparent when the Global Effect for sleepers or singles kicks in. It changes to a situation that these opportunities swarm together all at once and continuously.


A person that wants to exploit opportunities must know that if opportunities can swarm together all at once, then they can also disappear at times like a stretch of no opportunities all swarmed together. Situational awareness is the key to knowing when to go for it and when not to. You can't walk into a casino and expect favoritism to bid you good fortune just because you have arrived. You must see what the wheel is currently dealing out in the stream of randomness. Is there a Global effect or is there not? Is there an active pattern of phases or are there no identifiable phases? Are there a swarm of doubles and triples while there are no singles? These phenomenon are so common that it is unbelievable to me that anyone would knowingly ignore them.


People wait for an advantage in the game of 21 and then they strike. I wait for a swarm of consistency of any kind and then I strike. If you know how to be good at taking those first bets down, then you know how to position yourself properly to take advantage of the almost always present opportunities. You just have to keep track of enough data so as to see the spread out opportunities.


I wonder why you don't see the opportunities. I spent years learning to see them and to properly take risks on them. I've tried to share just how to go about it. But my basics are imprinted upon my playing style. I can't make a person recognize situations that are the beginnings of favorable stretches. To make money you have to know how to live with risking money.


I don't keep digging if I'm not getting anywhere. I use dynamite when I'm on the Gold. You can't prevent yourself from seeing a working Global Effect once you have been trained to recognize one while it's happening. If you walk away from a working Global Effect then I'm not sure that gambling will ever be a worth while pass-time for any person that would do that.

Quote from: alrelax on December 09, 2016, 08:32:05 AM
The other night he buys in for $200.  Up and down.  Hit a few and presses aggressively.  Had $10.00 out on the Fortune 7 and hit for $400.  Stack it up in the next couple of wagers and lost it.  Hits another Fortune 7 in 5 hands after the first for another $400.  Wagers between $100 and $300 a hand and hits probably 7 or 8 out of the next 10.  Then about another 6 hands or so after doing well on the B's or P's having at least $2,000 in winnings, more than he normally ever wins, he hits another Fortune 7 for another $400 which now it is around hand 50 or so.  He plays real aggressive and has that aura about himself that he is bulletproof.  He lost it all by the end of the shoe.

If you don't know that all win streaks come to an end then you don't know much about gambling.

Quote from: Albalaha on December 08, 2016, 11:41:22 PM

Unless one can handle different varieties of variance with one well defined approach, he is bound to lose.
...
   All talks of old school ideas are mere wastage of time.

Actually you know what I think. Variance is a living, breathing, and constantly changing thing. It causes your bet selection technique and your money management to adapt to it or to be eliminated by a mismatch of consequences. Luckily, you can control your playing dynamics to compensate for these changes.


"Fortune rewards the prepared mind."

It's happening again:
".Update November 21 at 5:45 PM EST

C20 experienced an issue with its memory. Some boards are being moved to a different server (also a new one), to make sure this does not happen again.
I am very sorry for the continued troubles. Tentative ETA to have it all resolved will be 9 days (when all boards are moved to the new server location). This does NOT mean that things will be down for 9 days, but  slowness and occasional outages can be expected during the 9 day period.
Once we're all in the new location those problems should be no more."

I use a checklist like a pilot does a preflight walk around.

1.) The roulette table marquee is wrong most of the time. It misses spins or reports them wrong many times during a session
A. So I keep my own spin results in my index card charts. It takes about ten to fifteen spins to get to see real trends that are currently occurring.
B. I also keep a wL list once I start placing trend following bets.

2.) My first 10 to 15 bets are table minimum bets on one of the even chance options of the table. I do this so I can see the trends in the double dozen bets.
A. I make virtual bets in my mind and put the results in the wL list even though not actually placing those bets. Those are trial double dozen bets.

3.) My playing experience tells me to act on what I'm seeing. After thousands of playing sessions its easy to tell what phase or condition the bets are flowing in.
A. It is important to not place bets during a deep slide downward.
B. I practice at home with my charting program before going to a casino. I want to remind myself to follow the checklist.

4.) I wait to attack the win streaks that are dominate in the wL list. You can make money during a soft dominating upturn in the win side of a wL list of bets.
A. It is easy to see a win streak in the wL list. That's when it is best to bet big.
B. The wL list tells you when to bet big and when to bet small.
C. Playing experience is what gives me playing patience. The good times will come if you can just stay close to even money and just wait for it to come.

5.) Never expect more than two big win streaks in a long session. Most of the time there is only one.
A. Make it count and get out if you are tired.

If you follow this simple plan, you should run at a better win rate of two to one than at a losing rate.

Once you have hundreds of effective practice sessions using the practice charting program you should have these skills down to the point as to effectively protect yourself at a casino. Your focus is on winning two bets for every lost bet. You must win two bets at least when betting big. If you can get a streak going at the big level then it will typically continue until the first loss. That first loss can be an indicator that a change has started. You must pull back in almost all situations on a loss. There is only one situation where you should not pull back and that is in a dominating global effect. If you have studied the information available to you at this forum then you should know what that all means. If you don't understand what I said then feel free to go find that information that is already here.

We are back up and running. It looks like all the posts are still there fine.

QuoteMark,
Haven't been able to access the School Forum for several days. Are you, or did you, close it down ?

I have been monitoring it for days. At support for the entire forum system many individual forums are down just like ours. They are working on it. They are redoing the entire system. I just hope that all of our posts are still there when it comes back up.


Mark

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Quote from: greenguy on October 14, 2016, 07:30:00 AM
For me, that would entirely depend on your comfort zones, and any personal win stop settings.

My comfort zone is to not need a stop point. I need those super wins to break the math. If my bread and butter comes from 8 to 10 consecutive wins in a row, and that these kinds of short lived wins keep me in the black, then I want those super wins for my long termed profit. I have seen a 16 in a row almost every time I play for 200 spins. Every year I see some kind of 30 in a row and I'm always seeing joined 10's in the global effect. It is advisable to never quite a profitable global effect. Quit when the global effect quits. I just use the idea that a good win is a good place to quit. But I can understand if you don't agree with my comfort zone.

BTW, yes

Quote from: Mike on October 13, 2016, 07:26:00 PM
Gizmo,

At first reading your explanation sounds quite plausible, even insightful. How can anyone argue against moving if indeed the odds are 4-1 in your favor?

But wait. What you're implying is that the "state" you have just abandoned (in the hope of finding greener pastures elsewhere) will continue, or at least "tend" to continue (in other words, more often than not it will continue). However, this in turn implies that outcomes are not independent. A state you deem as "terrible" might be fleeting, or persist for dozens of spins. You just don't know. But you're claiming there IS a way of telling, based on past spins, which puts you firmly back in the gambler's fallacy camp I'm afraid. So there isn't really any compelling reason to not stick it out at tough table after all.

You almost have it all. When you go to another table you don't know what you will get. It doesn't matter. It's like prospecting for gold. You dig a while and see what you get. They are called test holes. That's exactly how you mine for opportunities in randomness too. You can stay because you don't no if the state will continue. If you do move you don't dig somewhere else because of fallacy. You do it because one of the tables might be in a state of winning. Now just make one more interesting leap here. What if you were a group of experts like myself and you could do what they did in the movie "21?" A randomness gambling team could kill a casino with several tables.


Do you get it? You or I don't know where and when the opportunities occur. You just have to find them. People don't know how to not get killed while they are looking. It doesn't take a genius to figure that one out though.That's the holy grail that you have been waiting for. It's not about prediction, and it never was.

Quote from: Mike on October 13, 2016, 11:13:02 AM
True. But the question is, will it increase the chances of whatever he's chasing showing up? That's the important question. If it doesn't, he may as well stay where he is.

The odds haven't changed by merely moving to a different table.

Nothing personal but your obsession, fundamentalism, or fascination with changing the odds in order to make a claim of winning is confining and controlling to me. Can't you see that it's possible, by timing alone, that claiming a winning method has nothing to do with any odds or probability?


I completely agree that by moving to a different table the odds don't change one bit. But the odds of finding randomness in a different state are higher if you move. There are five states or phases of conditions that define current possible conditions. If you leave a table in one state you have a four to one chance of finding a different state at another table. You like odds, -- explain that. Probability odds are not dogmatic enough to tell anyone when and how much the states of randomness will happen. Nobody knows what they will find if they move to another table. Not even the finest dramatizations of a controlling personality. Please try to grow from all this.

Greenguy

That was brilliant. You completely get it. The secret to success in this game is to seek out and destroy the enemy. Only the enemy is us. We must decide how and when to strike. We must decide how much of the killer sequence is going to whittle us down. When I go to a casino near me I must drive for five hours just to get there. It almost always has only one table operating out of two tables offered. On weekends it gets busy enough to open the second table. So I have become an expert at waiting for the when to strike. When it comes to randomness you can never depend on wishful thinking to carry you through. You will get killed if you depend on that.

So the discussion of how to seek out the opportunities is about to begin online. It's not enough just to see the useful characteristics. The software that was created for this thread teaches the user to see some of the characteristics of randomness. How those changes come and go are the important lesson to be learned. Having those lessons learned are the tools of the trade for anyone expecting to beat Roulette and other games of chance. My school is about one thing only. I teach all about the opportunities and give the students lessons in how and when to exploit them.

Anyone can figure this stuff out on their own. I know because I did. It's just a craft, nothing more. Once the tools are basic nature to you then you get to the important stuff. You get to the when to attack stage. That's what greenguy is talking about. When and how to attack, and how much of your bankroll to use are the important questions and answers here.

I have decided that this information should be handed out slowly and quietly. So I have made it available at the price of a book. It comes with software that teaches the tools. It also teaches the student how to get good at waiting for the opportunities. You can figure all this out on your own. It's mostly common sense. It took me decades to figure out. You can really understand a thing once you stand outside of it and look at it from a bigger perspective. Greenguy is talking about the big picture. Great post greenguy.