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#496
In the above chart you can see a swarm of the zeros. Some times the zeros are very active and other times they seem to sleep for a long time.
#497
So let's look at a new chart from my practice software Vs 3.2




| A B C | 1 2 3 |  | B  R | L  H | O  E | -- ## -- Line
|   X   |     X |  |    X | X    |    X | -- 18 --  1
| X     |     X |  | X    | X    |    X | --  6 --  2
| X     |     X |  |    X | X    |    X | -- 12 --  3
|     X | X     |  |    X |    X | X    | -- 25 --  4
| X     | X     |  |    X | X    | X    | --  7 --  5
|     X |     X |  |    X |    X |    X | -- 30 --  6
|   X   |   X   |  |    X |    X | X    | -- 23 --  7
|   X   |     X |  |    X |    X | X    | -- 21 --  8
| X     |     X |  | X    | X    |    X | --  6 --  9
|   X   |     X |  | X    | X    | X    | -- 15 -- 10
|     X | X     |  | X    |    X | X    | -- 31 -- 11
|     X | X     |  | X    |    X |    X | -- 28 -- 12
|     X | X     |  | X    |    X |    X | -- 28 -- 13
|   X   |   X   |  |    X | X    |    X | -- 14 -- 14
|     X |     X |  |    X |    X |    X | -- 36 -- 15
|   X   |   X   |  |    X | X    |    X | -- 14 -- 16
|     X |     X |  |    X |    X |    X | -- 36 -- 17
|     X |   X   |  |    X |    X |    X | -- 32 -- 18
|     X |     X |  |    X |    X |    X | -- 30 -- 19
| X     |     X |  | X    | X    |    X | --  6 -- 20
|   X   | X     |  | X    | X    | X    | -- 13 -- 21
| X     |     X |  |    X | X    | X    | --  9 -- 22
|     X |   X   |  | X    |    X | X    | -- 35 -- 23
| X     |     X |  |    X | X    | X    | --  3 -- 24
|---------------------------------------|  - 00 -- 25
|   X   | X     |  |    X | X    |    X | -- 16 -- 26
|     X |     X |  |    X |    X |    X | -- 30 -- 27
|   X   | X     |  | X    |    X |    X | -- 22 -- 28
|     X |   X   |  |    X |    X |    X | -- 32 -- 29
|---------------------------------------|  - 00 -- 30
|---------------------------------------|  -  0 -- 31
|     X |   X   |  |    X |    X |    X | -- 32 -- 32
|---------------------------------------|  - 00 -- 33
|   X   |   X   |  | X    | X    | X    | -- 17 -- 34
| X     | X     |  | X    | X    |    X | -- 10 -- 35
|   X   |   X   |  |    X |    X | X    | -- 23 -- 36
|     X |     X |  |    X |    X |    X | -- 36 -- 37
| X     |   X   |  | X    | X    | X    | -- 11 -- 38
|   X   |   X   |  | X    | X    | X    | -- 17 -- 39
|   X   | X     |  |    X |    X | X    | -- 19 -- 40
|     X | X     |  | X    |    X | X    | -- 31 -- 41
| X     |     X |  |    X | X    | X    | --  3 -- 42
|   X   | X     |  | X    | X    | X    | -- 13 -- 43
|     X |     X |  | X    |    X | X    | -- 33 -- 44
|   X   |   X   |  | X    | X    | X    | -- 17 -- 45
| X     | X     |  |    X | X    | X    | --  7 -- 46
| X     |   X   |  |    X | X    | X    | --  5 -- 47
| X     | X     |  | X    | X    |    X | -- 10 -- 48
| X     |   X   |  | X    | X    |    X | --  2 -- 49
|     X |     X |  | X    |    X | X    | -- 33 -- 50



18,6,12,25,7,30,23,21,6,15,31,28,28,14,36,14,36,32,30,6,13,9,35,3,00,16,30,22,32,00,0,32,00,17,10,23,36,11,17,19,31,3,13,33,17,7,5,10,2,33,


This list of spins can be added to my software and loaded in so that you can see it in the chart. A comma delimited list of spins can be shared in order to show examples of randomness characteristics.



#498
That's brilliant. You must be chronically bored.


| 1  2  3 | A  B  C | 0  3  6 | P  S  N | -- chart designations
|       X |    X    |    X    |    X    | -- 9
| X       |       X |       X | X       | -- 6
|       X |       X | X       | X       | -- 7
| X       | X       | X       | X       | -- 1

   put "1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12," into d1 --  goes with 1
   put "13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24," into d2 --  goes with 2
   put "25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36," into d3 --  goes with 3
   put "1,4,7,10,13,16,19,22,25,28,31,34," into c1 --  goes with A
   put "2,5,8,11,14,17,20,23,26,29,32,35," into c2 --  goes with B
   put "3,6,9,12,15,18,21,24,27,30,33,36," into c3 --  goes with C
   put "38,37,1,2,9,10,13,14,25,26,27,28,35,36," into p1 --  goes with 0
   put "3,4,7,8,11,12,15,16,23,24,29,30," into p2 --  goes with 3
   put "5,6,17,18,19,20,21,22,31,32,33,34," into p3 --  goes with 6
   put "1,2,5,6,17,18,27,28,31,32,37,38," into primes --  goes with P
   put "3,4,7,8,11,12,15,16,23,24,29,30," into spokes --  goes with S
   put "9,10,13,14,19,20,21,22,25,26,33,34,35,36," into nots --  goes with N


Now you can see how close you got.
#499
Quote from: Kimo Li on August 08, 2016, 04:35:32 PM
Hi Gizmotron,

I solved your code.
Would you like me to post it?

Kimo Li


Sure, go ahead please.
#500
Interesting: "cycle of absence" = sleepers; "columns are alternating" = singles
#501
Quote from: BEAT-THE-WHEEL on August 08, 2016, 03:09:46 PM
Dear Gizmotron,
I try very hard, but can't see what you mean,
Please teach and tell , what the global effect.
Thanks in advance.

Here is the third set isolated:


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Now see if you can see the sleepers where I over wrote the chart by adding "s" that stands for sleeper, so that you can look in the right places to see the trends continuing. The global effect is sleepers continuing even when they change to different locations in the set.


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Hope that helps.
#502
Quote from: BEAT-THE-WHEEL on August 08, 2016, 02:24:25 PM
Dear Gizmotron,
With respect.

May you please teach,
What the "THREE STATE",
that must occur?

Thanks in advance.


The three states of effectiveness are:


1.) Works great. You win on every spin or almost every spin.


2.) Works badly. You lose on every spin or almost every spin.


3.) Works in-between. You win as much as you lose. It just grinds away getting nowhere.


Whatever you do you get something that leans toward one of these three states at a stretch. It can jump quickly from state to state too. You can have the very best bet selection process and it will produce these three effectiveness states no matter what you do. Perhaps that is not true for VB but Homey don't play that.



#503
Here is the seven step progression: You have a 61% or 64% chance to win the first bet. (37 or 38 numbers)


28  28  on a win the next bet is a free shot  28 / 2 = (14 & 14)

14  14  take off 6 on a win, taken so far = 6

18  18  take off 6 on a win, taken so far = 12

24  24  take off 8 on a win, taken so far = 20

32  32  take off 16 on a win, taken so far = 36

40  40  take off 40 on a win, taken so far = 76

40  40  take off 120 on a win and keep it all. Taken at the end = 196


As you can see, you collect winnings as you go. If you are in a detected trend that appears to be continuing and the effectiveness state is also favorable, and even add to that that the global effect is also working favorably, then that would be the best time to try a seven step graduated progression. You don't have to use these numbers in your progression. It's just an example of a positive progression that pays you something you can keep, as you proceed. You don't need to be locked into seven steps either. I've seen global effects that show a clear possibility if you only use three steps at a time. This all comes down to trend recognition and playing experience. That's why I created my training software.




Quote from: Gizmotron on December 10, 2012, 04:08:49 AM
Roulette Marquee 3.2 now released.

This upgrade allows you to place bets. It tracks each bet and keeps a running total.

Press spin to start. I always run out 12 spins before I ever place bets.
#504
Quote from: Albalaha on August 08, 2016, 03:45:25 AM
What fanciful complex bet selection can't help with:

4. It can't predict anything with any accuracy, in short run.

It can, at times, appear to be predicting with complete accuracy, even though we all know that it isn't actually predicting anything. There are one of three states that must occur. If you have a bet selection process it must reveal to you one of these three conditions. If you can figure out how to live with these results then you are a disciplined player.
#505
Quote from: Mike on August 08, 2016, 11:35:31 AM
... What I dispute is that there is any way of telling whether any upcoming sequence is more likely than another. And you HAVE to know this in order to make a long-term profit. There's no way around it. And the reason you can't tell what sequence is coming up is that spins are independent. Sorry to keep repeating myself but I do it because it's repeatedly ignored (the "inconvenient truth").

I don't have to know what's coming up. I just have to stay close to even while waiting for the randomness to act like it is running some kind of trend characteristic. We both agree that it is not actually lining up because of any knowable cause. So in that regard you have always been right. But, as my chart example clearly shows, a very common example of the global effect is in full view. I know how to far surpass staying close to even while waiting for this kind of an opportunity. The human brain can recognize patterns very easily. I would know that a possible pattern of continuing sleepers was possibly forming. I would have seen the global, over all trend characteristic, effect by half way through the third occurrence of the continuing effect. That would mean that I could have easily exploited my seven step progression. In fact I would reach the table maximum for each straight up bet and stayed there until the global effect subsided. This is what I do. I attack the continuing pattern, being it sleepers or singles or actual pattern formations like hit hit not-hit. You can see pattern shapes in my charts if you try to see them. They continue also.

Your problem is that you think I can't predict when they will occur with enough degree of accuracy to make up for any losses. When you wrap your head around winning first and second bets, that waging a war against the casino based on just staying close to even is the primary strategy, then you will perhaps come to realize that the streaks of singles and sleepers are just icing on the cake for the taking. I'm not taken out by equivalent down trends. I avoid them. Perhaps you might recall your recognition of the three states?
#506
Quote from: from100 on August 08, 2016, 09:38:33 AM
Are X's written in Matrix way, or in columns?

Columns running down. At a casino I use index cards with the same columns. It only takes a few seconds to add the X's and to add what the actual number hit was.

There are 4 sets. The first two sets from the left have 12 numbers in each position. Set one is the dozens, 1 to 12, 13 to 24, and 25 to 36. Set two is the columns. Set three and four have 12, 12, and 14 respectively where the zero and double zero are also included.
#507
Quote from: from100 on August 08, 2016, 08:26:58 AM
I think that I understand the meaning of your chart now - it is one 180 spins session of following dozens as they come!
Maybe few more words about what is the meaning of few separate parts (were there zeroes?) and numbers?

Thanks

That chart has the ten possible "Finale" results included at the end of each line. This chart was based on the double zero American wheels. Two of my sets are based on pet sets of dozens based on positions in the wheel, like Kimo Li style only my own configurations. I'm showing the chart so that you can learn to see the trends the way that I see them. If you chart your own sets of spins you can learn to see all kinds of trends. If you want to beat the casino all you have to do is find a trend that continues and milk it for all that it is worth.
#508
Quote from: Mike on August 08, 2016, 07:50:42 AM
Yes there is meaning in the sense that one of the states must manifest at different times for any given bet selection (although your "states" are to some extent artificial and arbitrary). However, bet selections are meaningless in that they entirely fail in their intended aim, which is to (a) produce more wins than are dictated by expectation (call this the "strong" form) or (b) reduce variance (call this the "weak" form).

Of course you disagree, but let's see...

I guess you like being wrong. These observations are "artificial and arbitrary," and that is true. Because all spins results are independent, these forms of identification are all imaginative forms of structure. There is no cause for them to take the semblance of form. I could care less if they can't predict the future or that they exist because of meaningless observation. The point is that they exist, if only in my imagination. The point is, they are exploitable. That's the part that troubles you. You think that I can't take advantage of perfect sequences. The real issue here for you is, do perfect sequences exist? I say they do. I know this because I search for them. What's funny to me is you search for them too. You know that perfect sequences kill progressions no matter how elaborate they are constructed. So you accept a perfect sequence if it defeats a progression but you fail to accept a perfect sequence if it comes in the form of a perfect repeating trend. Put that in your math pipe and smoke it.
#509
Quote from: from100 on August 08, 2016, 07:40:51 AM
Does it mean that the same structure appears regularly?

A structure like that appears at least once a day or two in every active casino in the world. The global effect has many types. I guess I had better go into what the global effect looks like in its many forms.  It does it for sleepers, for patterns, for singles, and for the effectiveness trend. What it is in its basic form is that it's a trend of a specific characteristic of randomness. In a way it's a "tell" like a very bad poker face. Randomness goes into sequences of repetition that flows like a current in a stream or river. You easily accept that a perfect sequence happening, that kills the most unlikely combination of events that it would take to kill a progression, occurs often enough to prove that the house advantage always prevails. This same randomness produces perfect sequences that appear to act as a tell.

"If you don't know who the patsy is, you are the patsy."
#510
Quote from: Mike on August 08, 2016, 07:15:55 AM
I'm not suggesting that life is meaningless, only that bet selections in the game of roulette are.

These bet selections must be especially meaningless when they appear to produce the three possible states of effectiveness. And if you are too afraid to look I will make it easy for you. Any bet selection, no matter how derived at, must produce a form of the three states. And that my dear boy is meaning.