Quote from: TwoCatSam on May 24, 2013, 02:08:24 PM
It is not 12 straight.  It goes up and down, but more up than down.

Sam

I think I know what's happening. But only you will be able to validate it.


1. Your stop loss is 10. Believe most of the cases you might not be getting to the line bet at all.  As you will hit your stop loss before that.  May be changing it to 18 might help getting even more winning sessions. 

2. Is there way you could cheat alembert in your bot.  If it is not straight losses and it is more wins against losses, it might be possible that because the progression is not restarting at a new bank roll high and the deviation is amplified because of he unit size and takes you deeper.   What do you think?

Cross fire bet selection is a dead give away I guess. Aber rest ist nicht korrect.  To claim the prize you need to tell me the exact progression used, what is the basis behind choosing the dozen and column being played. 

I shall post another free clue soon.  Till then get cracking. 

One free clue. Its got nothing to do with 123 framework

This is my video on my race to 50 units in 12 mins, manual play on BVNZ table. Whoever guesses the framework right will get my winnings.

Yes, it's a challenge. Whoever cracks the challenge is going to get a nice framework which I have played and my winnings from this session isn't it sweet? Get cracking.
Race to 50

I will probably post some more clues if there is interest. But with every clue, the prize money will decrease by 20%

Quote from: TwoCatSam on May 24, 2013, 10:44:14 AM
Any suggestions on how to keep from going this deep?
I don't like it either, but what do you do?
Sam

Sam! Is it 12 straight losses or is it building up slowly. The answer will depend on that. If its not 12 straight losses, then we could try cheating D'alembert by restarting progression on a new high, or on a win, going down by 2 steps instead of 1 step.

Gramps

Quote from: marvin on May 24, 2013, 08:01:23 AM
now i am trying to do a reverse of this framework if its more profitable simply because the hit rate will increase.
say you will
1. start with a double street.
2. on 3 loss increase unit move to dozen/column, move step 1 on new high
3. on 3 loss increase unit move to EC on a 3 step marty , move step 1 on new high

I have tried a number of ways to make it work this way. It is not as efficient in terms of the bank roll as the straight forward one, or atleast I was not able to get there. Good luck Marvin! If you figure something out, please let us know as well. Will be very interested to see the approach.

Quote from: Turner on May 24, 2013, 08:37:25 AM
Oh...i can see where it can bust don't worry. I just think it's a "nice to have"idea for your arsenal.....if you can catch the wave.....and technically....its not a naive bet. Its randomness has merits.

Very true. I have seen two things working nicely here. One is a rolling atila on the last two finales stopping and continuing from where it was left every 11 or 12 spins without restarting the progression and the other thing getting into an "up and pull" progression for the last 3 finales to repeat. Will post details as part of the Finale countdown along with my test results.

Wanted to ask you for 6 years now.  Do you have two cats?

Try an Atilla progression, it will work very sweet. However, whenever I play I figured out that there will be a long lull which will last 20 spins or more. My strategy has been to play 10 spins and wait virtually until another repeater comes along. Then you will get another wave of repeaters. I have seen two continuous lulls so far. Not more than that.

Continue on dozens

Quote from: Superman on May 23, 2013, 03:50:54 PM
Like I said, I used to build trackers and wait for deviations etc, but the losses would always come so to my mind MM was/is key to survival.

This is a top learning! This summarizes my years of experience in roulette play! There is no real or only marginal advantage in bet selection. MM is the key to survival. Master it and then you cannot let the wheel master you. Easy to say, but very very difficult to implement!

http://www.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=47.0

How to read test data? How do you make sense out of it? How do we use it as a base for further variations?
Chapter 6 Do you have it in you

Trending lines. Do they hold the key? When do you know you have a holy grail?
We will get to standard deviation a little later as its complex. Lets see simple things first.

Chapter 5 Do you have it in you

Quote from: Drazen on May 23, 2013, 02:58:57 PM
I was saying all the time, everyone has to find its own way. I am of an opinion that there is no only one strategy or way of play that can be be successful.

Drazen,
Well said! I have started a thread where we all can pool in ideas on how to develop a strategy that works for an individual. Will be great to see some contribution from you based on this experience of yours. Cheers!