Every framework I play, every method I use in the table, I plan for four different types of progressions. I call them as "The Kill", "The edge", "Bread and butter", "The Cocoon". In other words, they are Super aggressive, aggressive, conservative and super conservative plays. I start with conservative method of playing and depending on whether am winning or losing get into aggressive or super conservative plays. When I have reached my target for the session and am on a winning streak, I deploy the super aggressive play.  This is my style of play. But I have seen people being static and going completely aggressive or completely conservative as well. This bet selection is no different and I will try describing my suggestions on progressions for all these styles of play. The progressions cover the best of negative progressions, parachuting and attilla.

Turner,
Before I add my two cents on the progression, I should really praise you on this novel bet selection, which comprises of
• out of the box thinking to group sets of 3 streets
• practical application to bet wakers or sleepers
• simplicity in tracking

These are key elements of any winning BS framework.

Now have a look at the thread in http://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=8713.0. One of the topics that I liked the most in the sister forum. But unfortunately, instead of encouragement and ways of improving his method, Ironsteel was beaten to death and that remained his only topic in the forum. The drawbacks of his method were long tracking cycles and "persisting" progressions. It might be a good read with some suggestions floating there! I still refer him as "one method wonder". I wish he had the same support in line with the current positive atmosphere in this forum.

@Atlantis, am very happy to see increasingly there is a thought process to think outside the traditional way of negative/positive progressions.

@ Turner, if you think my suggestions on progressions are going to make this even better, I will be a very happy person. While providing suggestions for progressions, you have given me an opportunity to share a little more on what I know about progressions. Hope you don't mind me getting a bit wordy.

Quote from: Chrisbis on June 12, 2013, 10:25:22 PM
I wondered, why we don't always chase the position of the last spin, and expect the result to come back to where we have already moved to!

The simple answer is "It doesn't matter". The key in this framework is the money management across two 1:3 paying positions and ride on the position which is trending for your bet selection.

Want to know the reason behind the simple answer. Attached is an excel with randomly generated dozen bets. Try changing the yellow cell with different values to see different values getting generated and the % wins for each strategy. It varies for different sets of randomly generated numbers and there is no clear winner for the bet selection strategy. You can ofcourse, add as many bet selection strategies as possible to this excel, you will not find it consistently having higher "W" percentage than any other bet selection.

However, if you note, under each bet selection strategy, there will be clusters of "W". This is what we are trying to ride on by doubling our bets on the trending playing position. Also, you will figure out that the "W" percentage  is consistently below 33.33% for any bet selection method. Your bet selection strategy has to win more than 33.33% to win using flat bets.

Chris, hope I answered your question.

Chrisbis,




The whole idea was published as two books a few years back under the name maximum advantage roulette. Search for Maximum advantage roulette PDF download in google and you will get it.

Very well said Sam. Either you continuously win or continuously lose or alternate.  One who gambles should make every attempt to read this pattern in order to stay up. That's why tracking patterns of your bets is as important as tracking patterns on the table. 

Quote from: Chrisbis on June 15, 2013, 02:39:17 PM
Looks just like the Matrix Wallpaper............from the film! lol


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Lol......

Quote from: Atlantis on June 15, 2013, 02:32:41 PM
R u playing STREETS or DOUBLESTREETS here?
A.

I am playing DS to avoid the deep drawdowns offered by a selection of only quarter of the layout and a better hit ratio when compared to streets.

this can be made more effective and long drawdowns can be voided if you use 2 instead of one. sometimes when the 2 merge on a hot streak, u can pretty much end  your play fr the day

Quote from: Chrisbis on June 15, 2013, 01:49:14 PM
Can U show us the "Knit one, Pearl one, Drop one" routine then GreatGramps?
Be interested in your experience on it.
cheers

will post my adaptation later on.



Attached is the play as described by Walter. 75 spins, +32u

Quote from: pda on June 15, 2013, 12:21:59 PM
Can anyone explain me why is it that no one answered this post?


what's the foop?


This actually seems to work...

May be because Walter did not pitch it properly. yes, it's a wonderful system that works. only. the progression can hve a helping hand with ideas from the forum. it's a little diff t urbo123 in the fact that it effectively stitches together active doz n sleeping DS.

WoW! what a productive discussion. Gizmo, why don't you explain with numbers spike gves you one by one so that we can make it a meaningful discussion and do justice to your great first post in the thread

Quote from: Chrisbis on June 13, 2013, 04:02:42 PM



It looks like it's a Million Spins maybe!?!
its very long!
profit after several hundred spins by the look of it, after a bit of a DD. 

Yes Chris.  U r right. This is the million spins from bayes.  I think it was going souTh until spin number 359 and ended 266k units upwards at the end of 1 mn spins. All flat betting.  Clues are there in header names to get the method used

. Nice going there Paul.

Who is Paul

Try talking to Nathan. This has to be played like action numbers and he is the master!

Quote from: Turner on June 13, 2013, 05:14:40 PM
Keep trying....but forget static unchanging bet selections.

According to me, there is no harm in using static unchanging bet selections. You just need to use virtual bets to wait for the trend on the table to catch your selection, especially when you are covering most of the table.

On long run, both static and unstatic selections will have the same hit ratio, when the coverage is huge.