Quote from: Ophis on January 15, 2013, 06:00:46 PM
I think you got problems with reading mate:
"This was not posted to make profit out of it.
It was shown show all of you serious players that there is no reason to loose hope because in fact roulette can be beaten in the long run."

I got money, don't need much more of them.
And again. Read again. Did i write somewhere i don't play with it?..... iv made it for my self!


It will be calculated monthly. its not like it will count only wins...
But if someone will put settings on 10 000 drop and will have 1000 units bankroll.. that's not my problem mate.

I read perfectly Ophis, I ve known roulette is beatable for years that's hardly news. Again if youre rolling in it you don't need a penny from anyone. See if you can even give this away first.
Youll soon find out about human nature. And at least you should give all proceeds to the forum as youre so rich already.

Quote from: Ophis on January 15, 2013, 04:16:55 PM
This was not posted to make profit out of it.
It was shown show all of you serious players that there is no reason to loose hope because in fact roulette can be beaten in the long run.
All your methods are HAR Voodoo. Which work only for you. Anything that cannot be tested is not true.
it does. chart of 3million spins is from wisebaden.
Yes... old talking. No one will ever publish holy grail... grow up. Not everyone is selfish.
Already said that you can choose what sort of bankroll you have... from 100 up to ...what ever.
But numbers of bets relay on this. that's why 10 000 is recommended.
But i can setup settings on 250 units and run those 3millions if u want... it will pass them... just not much profit.

And for starters i recommend going to work.
U can't take out if you will not put in. And you defiantly won't become Bill Gates with 10euro in your pocket.

No idea what's wrong with 100 euro (10 000units) as a bankroll... i earn more pay day in my day job.
Do you really thing this should be free?
Iv already give reasons why its not free:
1. There is tons of work put into this.
2. People do not appreciate free stuff.
3. This is EPIC.


The questions is more like... should be made public?!

If it will ever be public it will be on % of winnings based anyway.
u Win u pay some % as a tribute to developers.
u don't play u don't pay.

Ophis you are missing the point. Even if you have the HG and gift wrap it and hand it to every gambler on the planet for FREE. Not even 10% of them will use it or at worst STAY WITH IT.

That's what I am saying. Now you want people to buy this off of you. Work that one out.

And again if its half as good as you claim. You will be rich in no time and not need a penny from anyone. That's always the bottom line. The person telling everyone else they have a grail but not using it themselves.

Quote from: albalaha on January 15, 2013, 03:48:43 PM
John,
It has been explained that it bets straight ups, based on certain triggers with progression. Bankroll explained already. What else u want?

Okay Lol! PROGRESSION? And you were all over me for using one. Okay enough said.

Quote from: albalaha on January 15, 2013, 03:36:29 PM
Come out of theoretical world. You can never think of what the bot is doing. Play with any trigger, progression or flat bet, u will come out as a loser in long run. We have got guts to prove this thing is a winner in long term. No method ever written in any forum has the capability to replicate this success.

The problem Albalaha is your going to go over virtually everyones head with this.

If you don't spell out what its about. How much bankroll required to work it for starters? And the ultimate scenario. Actually prove its success. With hard cash, no one can dispute that.

Instead of asking people to buy something they haven't a clue about. that's something im totally against.

Why sell this if its half as good as you claim. You should be using it yourself to make a mint as I will with my methods.

Not showing graphs of something with no clear cut rules. And asking people to part with money for it.

If its good it should stand up on the original format of roulette. THE LIVE WHEEL.

Quote from: peauke on January 15, 2013, 10:19:53 AM
Did some further testing on this but don't think the strikrate will come to the original PB.

Right now the strike rate is 1:9 (it is still up but not as high as PB 1:14 at the moment)
I am also testing another variant of PB, but will post any rules and results until it has a good strikrate (minimal 1:12)

Nice work Peauke, Im due to update PATTERN BREAKER today or tomorrow.

Quote from: wannawin on January 15, 2013, 01:33:42 AM
As far as the casino is concerned we are just crazy and casino has us in the palm of the hand.

Rest assured you will not get death threats. Not even approaches to talk about bribery.

Casinos never worry. Their confidence is built upon what they know of human nature  Everything else is just there to confuse and distract.

If enough people could be programmed to read between the lines they WOULD be in trouble. But that's never going to be the case. So it will always be a tiny minority that can beat them consistently.

While the masses pay for it all.

Quote from: Chauncy47 on January 14, 2013, 07:33:10 PM
Your right.  Patience and Discipline

Two things that few humans have.

Quote from: VLS on January 14, 2013, 06:34:13 PM
  I certainly hope it isn't the case! 

Relax Victor, human nature being what it is, not even 10 people will ever use this method faithfully. Meaning little threat to the powers that be.

Meaning no threats.

Quote from: Chauncy47 on January 14, 2013, 05:45:08 PM

Isn't that the truth!  Now all I have to do is move to Europe and I have got it made!

You could always rent an apartment Chauncy. Once you are strong enough not to have to work. Id cover your expenses.

Quote from: Bally6354 on January 14, 2013, 04:33:19 PM
Thank you Bayes 

Do you just play this on the dozens JL?

Yes they have the history because of the vast back results I have for THE ZONE.

As I said before my enthusiasm for this method and willingness to put 242 units on the line, comes from what I never saw in nearly 3,000 results. Remember I have yet to see this thing lose live.

Quote from: Bally6354 on January 14, 2013, 03:54:16 PM

ok thanks, I understand it but there is a difference between waiting for a 3 to become a 4 or a 4 to become a 5 which is what I interpreted Bayes as saying.

These things are better cleared up before anybody starts using it.

cheers.

Well number 1, the way I just explained is the right way. Number 2. No ones really going to use this except me.

That's why the game will always be safe, 242 is still too much risk. And it lost 20--30 times per million minus the zero.

I know already ths is an alltime winner especially on a live wheel. Remember I have yet to be challenged not just lose.

Random is running out of steam by the fourth 4. The vast majority of the time. I've only had 6 X 5 four gaps. In 935 games. This is when H.A.R shows its value.

Quote from: Bally6354 on January 14, 2013, 03:32:26 PM

That's where one of us has it wrong!

I think you bet for the third 4 not to appear.

Like so....

05 (1)
32 (3)
23 (2)
28 (3)
05 (1)......gap of 4.......
22 (2)
09 (1).....gap of 2......
34 (3)
12 (1).....gap of 2.......
15 (2)
08 (1).....gap of 2.......
06 (1)....gap of 1........
25 (3)
06 (1).....gap of 2......
03 (1).....gap of 1......
32 (3)
05 (1)......gap of 2.......
33 (3)
05 (1).....gap of 2......
18 (2)
23 (2)
0 (*)
09 (1).....gap of 4.......
05 (1).....gap of 1......
18 (2)
12 (1).....gap of 2.......
14 (2)
15 (2)
18 (2)
07 (1).... gap of 4....... lost here betting the 2nd and 3rd dozen.
07 (1).....gap of 1.......
20 (2)
32 (3)
06 (1)....gap of 3........
14 (2)
21 (2)
29 (3)
29 (3)......won here. **I am assuming we would bet here**
28 (3)  **Bayes is assuming we would bet here**
26 (3)
06 (1)

Hopefully JL can clear it up.

cheers.

Bally what  I think Bayes meant was you wait for a 3 and bet it doesn't become a 4. A 4 can't become a 5 because its already a 4. Do you see my point?

Quote from: Ralph on January 14, 2013, 03:08:00 PM
It would be of a great suprise if the millon spis will last winning. We know every thing can happen, but it is probably not so the casinos will close or much change the rules to play. In a infinite (which we can always just be in as a limited part of it) it can happen  JL and  all here can win using it, at the probability is as the humans will be in extinct in 100  years. ( the game of JL I think has less probability, but not impossible). After a second thougth JL may have better chance than we are here in 100 years, that's hard to digest.

Ralph you must know as everyone should know. Even if you found a HG and gift wrapped it and gave it to every gambler on the planet. The casinos will still be very safe.

Its never been the game. Its the mind of the person playing it that always breaks first. And if man is still here a 1,000,000 years from now. That will not have changed.

Quote from: Bayes on January 14, 2013, 02:47:04 PM
Bally, I think it could be wrong, but I can't see exactly what you're doing. Basically, the trigger is when you see 2 "gaps" of 4 and they don't have to be consecutive as long as any gaps in between are less than 4. If any gap between 4 and another 4 is greater than 4, then you need to start re-tracking. When you have your 2 4's you wait for another 4 and bet that it will become a 5 - ie: bet the other 2 dozens. That's it. There's no magic to the number 4, I'm sure you could use other gap lengths and the results would be similar.

Possibly Bayes. I have seen seven 5 gaps though live three times. Playing the zone.