Quote from: Gizmotron on December 30, 2012, 05:19:37 AM
Why does everything change when results and challenges confront you? Now the Marti is gone. This tactic is hit and run excuses.

Try all you want to make this my issues. You might want to take notice to the title to this thread.

You are no different to anyother detractor Giz. YOU ASSUME you have all the anwsers. Like everyone else is a fool if they don't DO IT YOUR WAY.

There lies true ignorance. The marti IS NEVER GONE. It is the backbone of ALL my methods. Your MISTAKE like many. Is in assuming it is my KEY reason/claim FOR SUCCESS.

NO, The KEY REASONS and ONLY REASONS I will be successful until the day I draw my last breath. Is H.A.R together with a decent BET SELECTION. And SMART MM on the more vunerable methods like PB.

On FIVE, and 7 ON 1 no human factor no MM is required. PLAYED H.A.R they simply WIN. Secure profit. To play them requires the biggest reason this game is still thought of as unbeatable. PATIENCE, PATIENCE AND MORE PATIENCE.

That is lacking in the masses. And it's a key ingredient to success with this game.

Hence why the game will ALWAYS be there for the patient and clever to use for monetary gain.
And an excuse for maths devotees to say 1+1=2 and that's all she wrote regarding your chances of being a longterm success.

Quote from: Gizmotron on December 30, 2012, 05:05:02 AM
How would you know does come to mind.

This is truly funny. A guy says his three step Marti is going to vindicate his posturing. After 200 years that Martingale progression was actually right all along. It just has to locate the magical mystery points. And these points are only known by the legendary one himself.

I don't need to have someone like you tell me its H.A.R.

How do you know?

Three step marti, get over that first.My success has nothing to do with a three-step-marti. there's your biggest mistake right there.

You think how you think and play is the only way to be successful. that's the lesson

Quote from: Gizmotron on December 30, 2012, 12:59:08 AM
Please don't forget the context. It was with regards to mother hens. I've already proven that HAR is a fallacy. At the start I wrote a sim that tested Six Million spins per test. Written into the sim was actual mindless hit & run tactics.

In every test there was no significant difference in using it or in leaving it out. It changed nothing.  I ran the tests more than 100 times. There was no significant difference. THE CLAIMS BEING MADE ON THIS FORUM REGARDING HAR BEING THE SIGNIFICANT ADVANTAGE ARE FALSE. MY CHOICE OF DESCRIPTION IS THAT THIS QUALIFIES THESE CLAIMS AS LIES. THIS CONCLUSION IS AN EARNED RESPONSE TO THE PAST DISPLAY OF CHARACTER ALREADY ESTABLISHED BY THIS CLAIMER.

If these are not intentional lies then they are the illusions of a person that has been fooling himself for many years, also his own claim.

Illusions, lies. There is no prize for guessing who these accusations are directed at.

YOU don't FOOL YOUR BANKROLL. If what I do didn't work I would have been homeless many years ago. And when I prove this by doing with a mere vunerable 200 units. What NO ONE HAS EVER DONE with verifiable proof.

You Mr Gizmotron will be the first person put on the spot. To explain how a liar, fool, charleton. Was able to produce such success. With a style of play that doesn't work.

With methods that all fail, when played continuously.

Quote from: Gizmotron on December 28, 2012, 05:22:29 PM
The very best way is to discover the truth behind my methods before everyone else discovers that truth. Of course then you let everyone know the truth. Oh, wait, that's  my plan already. Learning it after it's too late also works. Situational awareness combined with a common basic strategy is going to change the entire gambling world very soon. For the most part it's going to zero in on this dot com. My advice to all of you is to get off your butts and stop fooling around with progressions and trigger based systems. That's if you have enough playing experience to let things like that go. It's human nature to find the easy way first. This is a clear warning to all of you. There will be a time that it is too late.

Too late for what?

Quote from: albalaha on December 28, 2012, 05:10:17 PM
Thanks JL,
       It is the duty of each of us to promote this place. More members means more resources for all of us.

Yes I have a radical idea to promote the site, but it's a good 6 months off. Proven sucess will speak volumes. And will draw alot of interest. We have to remember we love a game regarded as unbeatable longterm by the masses.

Take away that feeling of hopelessness. And this forum will explode. That's my aim for the forum.

Quote from: albalaha on December 28, 2012, 04:52:02 PM
I have some suggestions:
1.Invitation by existing members to others to join here
2. facebook page of the site and all members join there
3. link exchange with prominent traffic providers
4. youtube video creating awareness about this place
5. Put Victor's framework to test ideas and play as a bot at the earliest.
6. Make strategic tie-ups with online casinos to have free chips for members of this place.
7. Call experts and authors (like Kimo Li)

All excellent sugestions by Albahala. Especially the youtube and facebook ones.

Quote from: Chauncy47 on December 28, 2012, 01:39:36 PM
that's way too funny!!  They can always fly over here and join me for the Rose Bowl as my team the Badgers are playing in it this year!  I'll also be cheering for Sam's Sooners in the Cotton Bowl.   Although I will NOT be betting on either as I like my chances being better with PB.   
I'll post my results for December and get you that tweaked version of PB I have been playing. I know I have mentioned this many times before, but discipline and good money management is critical to success in this game.  It takes discipline to set and follow a strict betting strategy and it takes even more discipline to play a method that seems boring (PB is one of those slower moving methods) and requires patience when your just dying to just make a bet, but the results are solid.

I've got some exciting  stuff in the pipeline Chauncy. And still want to see your latest idea for PB.

Yeah fly over, that would require some effort. And flight expense. After July it won't matter anymore.

Quote from: Chauncy47 on December 28, 2012, 01:15:15 PM
Hi JL ... just getting back after the Xmas Holiday's.  How is you game(s) coming along?   Look forward to catching up with the forum.  I was reading through some of the older posts this morning and one of yours mentions that some think we are one in the same person?  LOL ... I have had plenty of good laughs this holiday season but none quite as good as that one...so thank you for that!!! LOL

Hi Chauncy, welcome back. Yes well its more to do with the other forum. They think you are me or my shill or something.

Nevermind, they have the shock of a lifetime on its way. 2013 is the year no forum that catches hold of what happens on this forum will ever forget. When the word spreads in the summertime. current online records will be blown out of the water.

No quitting Lady K, by the summer of next year I hope to have inspired many more people. When they see my methods turn a modest bank into life changing numbers.

Stay on the merry go round. This is a great forum, its got some exciting stuff going on. With areas I know little about. Like card games and sports betting. I want this to go down as the forum that history was made on.

Victor has THEE roulette forum. There will be none greater.

Early days Samnl. 13 games is nothing. I've lost 5 times in 20. Its when you start hitting those 15 plus streaks. You see how things balance out. Not to mention MM. Look at how Subby is doing.

And he is using no money management. Play on...

Quote from: Lady K on December 27, 2012, 05:31:29 PM

Advice on multiple bets anyone? 


I was wondering... Do you feel it is better to play only one particular bet method at a time, or mulitple bet methods at once?

Lady K, I often play two or three methods at the same time as some take longer to mature (qualify) than others.

This makes sense, so im not sitting around waiting for my trigger. My fastest method can qualify in just a few spins. My slowest can take more than a hundred, so there's usually no chance they cross qualify. If the faster one which is more vunerable to loss, loses. The slower one which has yet to lose will help to recover some of the loss within the same session.

And when they're all performing well it's a good session. 

Quote from: SamNL on December 27, 2012, 02:05:30 PM
I have to say John that it feels safer with only High/Low. Will play some more games later and then I will post the results on here.

Its possible to win longer with HIGH LOW Sam. But you still get losses. I won 41 games in a row. Then lost two in a row.

But overall it's a good thing H.A.R

Quote from: SamNL on December 27, 2012, 12:30:27 AM
RESULTS UPDATE FOR PATTERN BREAKER 26/12/12

TOTAL GAMES PLAYED 7

TOTAL GAMES WON 7

TOTAL GAMES LOST 0

STRIKERATE 7/0

DOUBLE LOSSES ZERO

LONGEST WINNING STREAK (CURRENT) 7--HIGH-LOW

Playing on High/Low only. At the moment just testing and not playing with real money.

Good work Samnl, like the 100% copy layout of my results.

Quote from: Clint on December 24, 2012, 05:07:41 PM
Hi John, are you still playing any of the other systems or just pushing PB now?

Clint 

Hi Clint, well in my own play I play up to 6 methods PATTERN BREAKER, FIVE, 7 ON 1, CODE 20, DIVIDE AND CONQUER & TEMPLATE 7. Plus im testing and playing Atlantis's CODE 4 HORIZONTAL. And AMKs PB 4 DL.

In the JL CHALLENGE Im playing PATTERN BREAKER, 7 ON 1 and FIVE. And the ZONE once in a while.

Quote from: Bally6354 on December 23, 2012, 06:12:37 PM

There is no holy grail! You may be able to get lucky and win more than you lose over periods of time. That's the best you can hope for in roulette.

Yes Bally I was simply illustrating how indifferent and jaded the masses are about beating this game. Even if there was one. 99% wouldn't use it.