Quote from: nOrMy2o0o on December 07, 2012, 08:51:51 PM
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5 =    cause as i'm more reader than writer... due to my bad english.

br, nOrMy2o0o

Your English will improve by writing and interacting more nOrMy2o0o.

Quote from: Chauncy47 on December 07, 2012, 07:31:38 PM
I will send you a pm and if you care to share it with the forum, it's up to you to present it as it's your method.  It's about 1:30pm here and it's time to leave work and hit the B&M     When I get back home tonight, I will drop you a pm ....

Great Stuff Chauncy47. Yes I've got me a session to play on BV after some chow. Speak later mate.

I would make that 5 a month Victor lol! If you are here you should take part.

Quote from: Chauncy47 on December 07, 2012, 07:16:11 PM
I am asking the same thing.  If you remember, I told you that I was working on something that I have noticed within the Pattern Breaker framework and the results have been solid so far. 

JL, I picked it from something you noticed and posted in the other forum and have been playing it/testing it ever since.  Thank you for answering the question.

Care to share your finding with me Chauncy47.

I am not precious about a method, we should always be looking for improvement at a low buy in like 7 UNITS.

I don't have to worry about this with FIVE. Its patience that's called for there. You know you are very likey to win. You just have to wait for random. WAITING FOR RANDOM. that's something I believe makes all these methods work. there's no MAGICAL THINKING going on here.

We are simply waiting for random to give us our BET SELECTION. I think its the way. To beat random, let random identify your bet for you. Its been working very well.

Quote from: shogun on December 07, 2012, 05:31:34 PM

John i wish you all the best with this 

Thanks Shogun, it will be a defining moment. I can't wait. Chauncy, Shogun is saying he lost 5 games out of 7. Very, very unlucky indeed. But I want to know how did they transpire across the two even chances.

For a while now I have been questioning the value of playing TWO EVEN CHANCES at the same time. The reason being I began this method with just HIGH LOW. And over an 18 month period had three very impressive streaks 48, 101 and 105.

Since I adopted ODD EVEN again for FASTER TURNOVER. I've never gotten close to those numbers. COMBINED 29 is the best I've managed to clock up. With 34 being the longest singular streak for HIGH LOW.

Now I believe the reason for this is, with H.A.R we are entering the cycle randomly. It is EXTREMELY unlikely we will manage to produce two streaks of 15 or greater SIMULTANEOUSY for the two even chances. PLUS we stop after a winner. So that winning streak will be criss-crossing between the two even chances.

And one of them isn't going to make 15 plus. With a  pure singular EVEN CHANCE. I think FREAK winning streaks are more realistic. As you are always playing for that ONE even chance. I have a 28 currently for HIGH LOW on BV.

So for me personaly I am going back to the start. And concentrating on HIGH LOW. My strikerate NEVER fell below 12/1 when I played only HIGH LOW longterm. With HIGH LOW and ODD EVEN I've struggled to get above 10/1 for a while now. Lets see. 

Quote from: shogun on December 07, 2012, 02:59:22 PM

Thanks for the advice John. I am sure i hit a bad run. I will have a break and start again.

I am not sure a recovery bet would have helped on my last bad run. As the losses came close together. At one stage i had something like LWLLWL.

I still think you have something with PB John 

Theyll know by July next year Shogun. All the methods I now play will be proofed over the long run. Every critic and I mean everyone of them will be shown im for real.

Quote from: Superman on December 07, 2012, 01:41:47 PM

I can confirm, so far, so good at BV

Thankyou Superman, Im playing small at the moment. Once I hit 250 I will go for it. And hope everyones worst fears are not realized, in relation to fairness when raising stakes.

Quote from: shogun on December 07, 2012, 09:33:22 AM
RESULTS UPDATE FOR PATTERN BREAKER 07/12/12

TOTAL GAMES PLAYED 197

TOTAL GAMES WON 173

TOTAL GAMES LOST 24

STRIKERATE 7.21/1

DOUBLE LOSSES 2

TREBLE LOSSES ZERO

LONGEST WINNING STREAK 37



Hi Guys, these are my results for my Playtech live games. I have not been doing well. I moved up in stakes only to see my strike rate fall to 5.46 in the last 84 sessions. Lost all my profit and some. I am going to have a short break from PB.

Hi Shogun. Poor patches happen. I've carried a strikerate of 5/1 across 150 games. You are just over break even after 200.

Which for me would still mean a profit overall as I use the recovery bet. I wouldn't give up on it. You can very easily come back up.

As Chauncy requested it would be interesting to see a breakdowm of how you have been betting and staking. I was running at 7/1 on BV. Now im 11/1

After hitting a nice winning streak over 25. Im only playing HIGH LOW. The way I started.

And the way that gave me my best results. that's something to consider too Shogun. Try to think longterm. PATTERN BREAKER isn't like FIVE or 7 On 1, which can run off a 1,000 wins in a row. But at only 7 units to buy in, it was never meant to be bullet proof that's what alot of critics never consider.

it's a grinder, but as Superman will verify for me in the future. If you stay with it faithfully it will show a longterm profit.

Quote from: Chauncy47 on December 06, 2012, 01:54:14 PM
Here are my November results for playing PB. As a side note: The H&R tactical approach works well for me, and I am not pushing it or telling anyone to use it.  I am simply stating that it works well for me and it performs well due to 0/00's.   Last night was a really good example of why. My overall session, which included playing more than just PB, took 2hrs and 45 minutes, and that was 5 total games. A typical night is 1hr or so.  Anyways, I did not have a single run longer than 8 spins before the 0/00 hit. They were by far the 2 hottest numbers on the table. Regardless, my point in sharing that is the importance in having discipline with your patience in this game. Even for me last night, who has the patience of an elephant (don't know what that means), was getting a bit jumpy and found myself tempted to start looking for opportunities to play before I normally would. Thank goodness I didn't and was able leave winning all 5 games.  That's the biggest take-away from last nights game, the importance of patience(in my style of play)!!  The results below are all live play at B&M Casino's:

RESULTS FOR PATTERN BREAKER FOR 11/01/ - 11/30:

TOTAL GAMES PLAYED 29

TOTAL GAMES WON 27

TOTAL GAMES LOST 2

GAMES LOST BECAUSE OF ZERO: 1
STRIKERATE 13/1

DOUBLE LOSSES ZERO

CURRENT WINNING STREAK THRU DEC 6th: 19 HIGH LOW & ODD EVEN COMBINED
JL, one of the ways I use PB is as recovery method for a loss on a previous method/game.  It's strong enough for me that it helps in the recovery process.  When loss does occur, I almost never use the same method to help recover.  For example, if I lose a a game playing D&C, I will use PB as a method of choice to start recovering.  Gotta run ...

Nice results Chauncy47. Both you and Subby have these qualities of PATIENCE and iron discipline. That often make the difference between winning and losing.

This is what more people need to beat this game consistently. We all want to win, but you need these attributes to succeed. I've got them to a degree. But I think you and Subby have them in you naturaly. I had to fight alot of bad habits to get there.

Quote from: Chauncy47 on December 05, 2012, 06:52:56 PM

I will post Novembers results tomorrow

Great look forward to that. Try to do it in a similar fashion to how I lay mine out Chauncy. It will be great to see because your strikerate is the best I've seen so far. But I know there's a few things you don't do.
That will be good for others to see and maybe try for themselves. Thanks.

Quote from: Chauncy47 on December 05, 2012, 06:41:35 PM
Great results JL ... 

Its how it all began 4 years ago. I am hoping you will start posting up your results soon. I want people to see how you tackle that double zero wheel with PATTERN BREAKER. It will be great to see on an ongoing basis. 

RESULTS UPDATE FOR PATTERN BREAKER FOR 05/12/2012

TOTAL GAMES PLAYED 60

TOTAL GAMES WON 55

TOTAL GAMES LOST 5

STRIKERATE 11/1

DOUBLE LOSSES ZERO

LONGEST WINNING STREAK (CURRENT) 28--HIGH LOW

Since I have lowered my stakes to stay under the radar. And reverted back to my original play style for PATTERN BREAKER. I have put together a winning streak of 28 for HIGH LOW. Which is the only E/C I am currently playing.

I will continue to grind out the profit in this fashion. Until I reach my goals. 

Quote from: Chauncy47 on December 05, 2012, 12:17:36 PM
Sam ... are you from the US?  ... I have got plenty of Casino's here in the midwest.

Yes Sam is a good ole southerner from Oklahoma.

Quote from: spike on December 04, 2012, 10:54:27 PM
This is my last post on this subject now that JL has admitted
to being Fender. Under Fender1000 he got flat out busted
for joining VLS under an alias and singing the praises of his
own losing system and making wild claims about money he
won that were all lies. He's a fraud and a charleton, what
you see is what you get. This is not an accusation, its an
easily proved fact. Waste as much time as you like on his
baloney, its your time to waste.

I got flat out nothing. PATTERN BREAKER has been sitting on the CC forum for nearly two years. I've been using it for 4. You come along and decide to stir up trouble while at the same time ignore the fact.

Subby is using it in a challenge for ALL to see. Aswell as myself using it in a challenge for all to see. WAKE IUP. Charlatons don't put themselves on the line.

They try to sell scams for money. When its all been proven to work. I will bet a heap you have gone into hiding without the decency to apologize and admit you were wrong.

That's a sure thing.

Quote from: Chauncy47 on December 04, 2012, 06:29:56 PM
I would like to add to the thread;  For me, it's not about forming an opinion on anybody or the methods they play or the success claims they post.  It seems that a great deal of energy is being spent on whether JL's claims are valid or not.  And this is my opinion only, that when I see someone judging another person, regardless of the topic, they are not in any way defining that person, but rather they are defining themselves.  And that's just more of an observation from me. 

So when it comes to roulette, and all the claims by JL or anyone else, and the their methods,  it makes no sense for me to debate about things I have no control  over because there's nothing I can do about it anyways, and quite frankly, why should I even debate about things  I do control?  That activity of debating alone keeps my thinking immobilized and prevents me from reaching my ultimate goal of being a successful roulette player.   

There are so many great methods out there and I play many of them every day, live at a casino, and I also just happend to play them Hit & Run style.  It works for me, and it works within the framework of my current thinking. 

Just a last observation:  Everyone's post in this forum is valuable, -- not because anybody says so, or because they post successful results, not because they have been playing the game for 30 years, or because they are a math expert, and it's not because they claim they made a lot of money using their method or disclaiming another -- but it's because they decide to believe in a method that works for them and for no other reason than to believe in it!   That in itself is the value for me and I take something away from it everytime.  I enjoy JL's passion for the game as much as I enjoy observing the people who challenge him.  So thank you to everyone for your contribution.  You all have made me a better and much more successful roulette player

it's a challenge all around Chauncy47. 7 months from now everyone will know I am a man of my word. I intend to keep going to satisfy the likes of Robeenhutt (Matt) Who say hmm he can win for 1,000 games then he will lose it all.

No it has never worked like that. Im never giving it all back never ever. Random will grab, snatch at my bankroll and get a portion of that pot of gold. Then I will take it back with interest. There is no giving back, no collapse. If it takes ten years to prove this then ten years this will go on. I want the most diehard maths worshipper asking questions. Instead of sneering and saying math is the governor it never lies, it can't be overcome.

I am in no hurry. I am going to purposely test PADDYPOWER to breaking point. find out what their limit is before they close the door on me. That's how far I will take this. We are at the beginning of a very long journey that's going to absolutely revolutionize the thought process of alot of people.