Quote from: Stepkevh on November 15, 2012, 05:44:44 AM
Hello there everyone 

Long time since i have been on the forums because i was really busy with learning coding.

But today i logged in on RF and did     

JL banned, noooo way ....
But as i can see he has found a new warm place overhere   

Welcome here Johny boy 

Thanks Stepkevh, well he unbanned ne after alot of support and balanced reasonning from the more positive members.

But I made a statement saying I will not  return. Luckily Twister brought me to this new wonderful forum. Which we hope to

keep that way. And that's how it is. Nice to see you here. 

Quote from: subby on November 14, 2012, 10:41:21 PM
I tried it but you end up getting 2 methods conflicting...i.e one telling you to bet Even and the other telling you to be odd....at the same time

Just stick to one. I found PB4 very much an either "I'm up laods" or "I've lost 40 units in 50 spins" type of method

Absolutely Subby. PATTERN 4 was an inferior compromise made by me to pander to the lack of patience among
alot of members on the cc forum.

Not one of my better moments. PATTERN BREAKER is alot more solid. The price PATIENCE. There is no compromise. In

my experience to WIN you have to WAIT. We are waiting for RANDOM and he won't be rushed. As you know a game can

be over in 22 spins. Or at the other end of the spectrum 102. The longest game I have on record. Although I've only been

playing all three even chances for a while is 105 spins for RED BLACK. That's how long it took to complete that game.

Most games average 45 spins. I've had three games finish in less than 24 spins in recent times.

Quote from: esoito on November 15, 2012, 01:20:48 AM
Here's an interesting claim:


"Gradually, I developed a very special progression for this type of inside betting and with the help of my co-admin friend Teos (Ophis), I got a tracker of my holy grail bet.

Now, after testing various sessions of 100 of thousands of spins, with success,  I can say, I have invented a holy grail finally."


Details:  http://albalaha.lefora.com/2011/11/14/making-of-a-holy-grail/


I might add it's NOT for sale and the claim is not being made in a public forum -- so no vested interest in making false claims just to stimulate sales.



It begs the question: 

A holy grail is one thing; the holy grail is a different kettle of fish. 

So which is more likely to occur?

Neither, but I don't doubt Albalaha has something a bit special. He is a clever guy. The thing is this. it takes different elements to overcome randoms ever morphing phases.

You could liken random to water. There is no code it cannot figure out, or pattern it cannot form. Just as there is no shape or contour water cannot fill.

What we have to do is make a compromise that gives us an advantage over the short term. And these short terms add up to the ever increasing bankrolls we desire.

I believe that random has certain things it can indeed do. But with a lot less efficiency than others. For example if I had to bet
my life against 9 reds showing up or all three even chances in PATTERN BREAKER losing which is 9 bets. I would go
with PATTERN BREAKER everytime.

This to me is the POINT of all the testing all the waiting. Not to fool ourselves into thinking we have something that will NEVER LOSE. But more to find what random is less efficient at doing.

We then see if we can build a working method against those findings. That is all I have tried to do over the last 8 years.

Quote from: gizmotron on November 15, 2012, 12:21:11 AM
  This forum is the last stand for those really researching weaknesses in the game of roulette. 

Yes Gizmotron. you said it.

Quote from: TwoCatSam on November 14, 2012, 10:03:19 PM
He made no post saying "Jl is banned".  However, he banned him and is now taking a poll as to whether to re-instate him.  Steve has made it clear he thinks Jl is misleading the pack.

Sam I wouldn't go back there if he payed me. He is the wrong kind of person to be running a forum. Shows money can't buy class. We are gentlemen as Victor said. This is our forum now

[quote autho ^-^r=Bally6354 link=topic=150.msg970#msg970 date=1352918983]

I think my 9 lives must be just about up 

This place is like a class reunion tonight. It is good to see so many old faces and a lot of really good contributors joining up.

The casino executives are cancelling this years christmas bash as we speak. 
[/quote]Classic love that one

Quote from: Tarantino on November 14, 2012, 08:07:00 PM
And im playing it live dealer only, and if a zero hits while forming a pattern in a game.... I ignore them 3 hit numbers...



                                                               To me... GREEN IS MEAN 

Absolutely but Zero can also be good for PB

Quote from: Tarantino on November 14, 2012, 06:59:34 PM
Been playing JL's PB for a while now, and while playing it and tracking numbers i had an idea...

My first ever Thread, so go easy  ...

Hope this ok JL, and if not i'll delete  ...

Play same way, but with a twist...

Play first number.... H/L
Second number...... B/R
Third number .........O/E...
So the combinations are as follows...

1.    H R O
2.    L R O
3.    H B O
4.    L B O
5.    H R E
6.    L R E
7.    H B E
8.    L B E...

So, mark off after each pattern formed. Exactly same way as JL's PB...

The idea behind this is to mix it up a little and hopefully get good results...

Very nice Tarantino. Please keep an update of your results. I am the only one doing it at the moment. I've messed around with a few ideas over the last 4 years. But always come home to the original format. There something basic but comforting about it. You have 8. When you have one bet the reverse. Simplicity in itself.

Then you factor in Money management and H.A.R And something special can unfold. You stay with it however you choose to play it.

You watch the wonders of random entry into the cycle. One day you lose two games close together. Then you go five days without losing.

That's what its all about. Pilot had the tenacity and staying power to play 6 games only for an entire year. And got a serious reward for it.

Why it works I can't answer. But when you see a winning streak like I've seen. And you realize wait a minute. I've only got 7 units on the line here.

This can't be right. You know it's a keeper.

Quote from: Twisteruk on November 14, 2012, 06:56:59 PM
Back of the Net 

Yeah its good to be amongst friends lol 
The matrix is EVERYWHERE 

Quote from: Twisteruk on November 14, 2012, 06:35:48 PM
I've PM'd loads of ppl incase I get a Ban for puttin the Link up

Everyone get your PM's in while you can, just incase 

Lol. Twister you are too nice to get banned. But yes we want all the good ones. Certain others you know who I am talking about can stay overthere lol. 8 ON 1 510/0 

Quote from: VLS on November 14, 2012, 05:33:29 PM
Thanks john.

See, as I work for the local industry in projects that are both dull and nonproductive for anyone other than the person who hires, I thought it would be better for me make my living helping others at large.

Yes well youve put together a beautiful sight/site here. Pleasing to the eye aswell as the mind. And we want to keep it that way. When Twister first told me about this forum. I thought here we go again. But as soon as I got here I felt at home.
Thanks Twister for sharing. 

Quote from: VLS on November 14, 2012, 05:26:19 PM
Hello dear friends, just wanted to say there are no plans for selling.

The prospect of a steady monthly help to my family definitely outgrows it and has wifey's blessing for the long run.

I'm aiming to make my life entirely online by the end of 2013, so it is important for me and my family to keep this a top-notch place

Victor that is wonderful. And I will support you all the way. By the end of 2013. that's my timeline for something special.

If its money. You got it. We got a great response today. You obviously know what happened to me. But I am a passionate person. With a mix of irish/indian and spanish blood. What else could I be.

Quote from: subby on November 14, 2012, 04:59:38 PM
Like him or loathe him - JL helped Steve's forum a lot with methods that got people debating and interested.

I honestly think Steve has shot himself in the foot with banning you mate. I for one will be staying out here in VLS's forum and unless I'm REALLY Bored I'll not be back on Steve's forum.

Nice to have positive people on here and little ,if any, sniping at people.

I'm 100% hoping, but fairly sure, that the mods on here will dispense with those that seek to ruin a nice burgeoning community 

there's nothing wrong with questioning things Subby. But what happened since Pilot landed and made his incredible claim just sunk that ship for me. And everything was fine and well UNTIL I made my intentions clear. But im happy today.

Quote from: Superman on November 14, 2012, 04:53:45 PM

woooooosh, here I am

Hey  Superman welcome. Well I guess you know what happened to me and what a certain person did to the challenge thread?

Quote from: bally6354 on November 14, 2012, 04:49:11 PM
Well it is great that we can all join forces and move forward. I am certainly looking forward to contributing here.

cheers.

Bally ditto. I think sometthing special just happened in the last hour or so. And it's a while since I have been this moved.